Imagine a religious movement that makes geographic maps of where demons reside and claims among its adherents the Republican Party’s most recent vice presidential nominee and whose leaders have presided over prayer sessions (one aimed at putting the kibosh on health-care reform) with a host of leading GOP figures.
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This is not surprising in substance, but it is very scary in scope. This is why we fight, and this is what we are up against.
Organized willful ignorance is a bit scary. But the “spiritual warfare” bit is pretty laughable given the non-power of prayer. Having “god with us!” doesn’t generally make one lick of difference. Just ask the nazis.
The minute these nuts close the gap between church and state (not likely to happen though) is the minute I grab my uprising pitchfork.
What healthcare reform.Where is the change obama/democrats promised- war on terror no change,wall street gone wild no change.What does obama/democrats stand for besides relection you can bust on republicans all you want but they have discipline and will fight for what they believe in.Go ahead and impose an insurance plan the people don’t like and the democrats are history.
Is there an insurance plan that people like? I mean other than the people who make insurance plans…lol
Before Obama was elected, healthcare sure wasn’t very important to conservatives…lol again.
Joe this obama plan will gut medicare.I don’t dispute need to overhaul insurance i’m a individual policy owner myself but the fact is this plan will not provide universal coverage,control costs.There is still time to start over and have states treat insurers like public utilities.As well as address medical provider side of cost.
Doesn’t it seem like Obama was put in office to purposely fail and screw the country so bad that the “Religious Right” will easily take over the country and look like “hero’s”? Really, what has Obama done good, or even tried to do good? But I know for a fact that if the “Religious Right Zealots” ever take over America, it WILL be the Dark Ages all over again. Only worse!
From a quick googling of “New Apostolic Reformation,” it would appear that exposing and discrediting the work of these organizations would be as beneficial for traditional denominations of Christianity as it would for non-believers, or members of any other faith.
If the worldview presented in that article were allowed to become the pervasive worldview, it would make for some very poor policy-making.
Wow…and in only 2 threads you prove my point Dave. You are definitely NOT pro-choice. Simply put…more hypocrisy.
So it’s ok for AA and it’s merry band of followers to have meetings and organize their political views into a movement…
But it’s not ok for anyone else to do the same if their views are contrary to AA’s…?
Don’t confuse the issue with what each organization is promoting. For what both groups are doing is called “democracy”.
Our right to organize and petition the government is a right to all…not a select few.
And speaking of lies…Dave, can you really believe anything this administration told you in your meeting?
http://tinyurl.com/yerss3o
@phreedm
Read it again, but this time, try not to fail at comprehension.
abaddon…now that’s funny. This should help you…
http://www.superteacherworksheets.com/3rd-comprehension.html
@abaddon
Phreedm doesn’t care about the truth, reality, or comprehending anything that’s against his world view. I’d ignore him, it’s better that way, because people like him will never change due to anything you or I or anyone says. It’s up to himself to break out of the prison he’s built in his own mind. Same for JCC, while we’re on the subject of this blog’s trolling closemindeds.
It is completely obvious that Dave said not one damn thing about denying these groups their rights. He only used it as an example of why we of varying opinions must exercise ours.
KA,
Who is the one who thinks he’s the “one true free thinker”? The one who keeps his mind open, according to the definition, or the dick who thinks that agnostics and humanists are beneath his enlightened arrogant vision???
NeoWolfe
KA, 2
Who is the one who thinks he’s the “one true free thinker”? The one who keeps his mind open, according to the definition, or the dick who thinks that agnostics and humanists are beneath his enlightened arrogant vision???
NeoWolfe
KA,3
Who is the one who thinks he’s the “one true free thinker”? The one who keeps his mind open, according to the definition, or the dick who thinks that agnostics and humanists are beneath his enlightened arrogant vision???
NeoWolfe
KA,4
Who is the one who thinks he’s the “one true free thinker”? The one who keeps his mind open, according to the definition, or the dick who thinks that agnostics and humanists are beneath his enlightened arrogant vision???
NeoWolfe
KA,
Its really easy to win a debate when you can delete the reply isn’t it, prick.
NeoWolfe
I’m going to repeat this 1 last time: I’ve never deleted any of your posts. Not once. The software occasionally swallows my replies whole. & you getting caught in the pending queue isn’t my doing either.
So, I need an apology for:
1. being accused of deleting your replies, &
2. being accused of deleting dw’s posts.
Because if I remember rightly, it was you who claimed that the mature freethinker is capable of recognizing when s/he is wrong, & is capable of admitting so.
KA thinks he understands how the big bang happened, and he really knows about dark energy and dark matter. He’s so cool, he thinks that anyone who keeps their mind open is fucked up. He reminds me a lot of my parents who thought that if you didn’t believe in god, you were fucked up. I am really angry at both of them, but, I don’t want to kill them. I just want both of them to shut up while I laugh.
NeoWolfe
What are you, 12?
I never made any of those claims – you are now officially putting words in my mouth.
PTUI!
Items of interest
1 California closer to default.
2 Gov’t investigating soros and other hedge fund bankers for allegly trying to create another monetary crisis.
This is going to be a ugly year
KA,
Pricks like you ran off DVan, I guess dw is still around occasionally, he’s a really forgiving guy (I really like him), and what’s left is you, JaCCoff and Phreedumb. And you pursued me accross the internet to engage me again. Well, let’s buckle up and go asshole. If assumption isn’t your greatest weapon, it is certainly your greatest weakness. Would you trade four apologies for four “fuck you’s”.
NeoWolfe
Shit, dogdamned blog ate my post again.
Reminds me, I should drop him an email.
So much so, he forgave me for NOT deleting his comment.
Well, you began sniveling about your ‘mistreatment’ here, thought the gloves were off.
Really, you have too high an opinion of yourself.
Let’s discuss assumptions.
A. You assumed I deleted a comment of yours. I did not. Wrong assumption.
B. You accused me of deleting dw’s comment. Why would I do that? It’s a mystery, since I didn’t. Wrong again.
C. You claimed that I was David’s right hand (FYI, that was What’s constant bullshit, so you listened to the wrong guy). I deny it, you call me a fucking liar. David steps in & says, no I’m not. Wrong again.
D. You insist that I have some kind of problem w/non-atheists, am down on agnostics & humanists. Why, I have no idea. Unless you think you’re the blanket representative for all of these people. Wrong on both counts.
E. You insist the only reason I apologized is because David jumped my shit to do so. Again, wrong.
So there’s 6 – count ‘em, 6 – assumptions you’ve made. All of them are wrong. Can you admit it? Hell no! Neo-cub is the One True Freethinker™, our self-appointed Messiah, who compares himself to Dawkins, whose word should NEVER be disputed.
You have an overly high opinion of yourself.
Who was it who was giving me a lecture on maturity? Oh, that would be you.
Double standard duly noted.
Also, I think the internet consists of more than 2 blogs.
KA,
There is absolutely no clever retorts or spins on your idiocy that could embarrass you more than you just did to yourself. And I really appreciate that. Phreedumb and JaCCoff often had an intelligent point, which leaves you as a circling turd at the bottom of the toilet.
I really like Dave, but why he would allow you to touch his software is a mystery to me. Dave understands freethinkers, atheists, agnostics, and humanists. But, you on the other hand, are an arrogant prick.
I have been busting my brain trying to remember the screen name of that prick you claimed credit for exorcisizing, him and his sock puppets. Unaffiliated as you are with AA, that must be even more difficult to remember.
Look, KA, if you fuck with me, I’m going to fuck with you. Leave me alone.
NeoWolfe
You’ll need to explain that. How did I embarrass myself exactly?
More maturity from the Ultimate Freethinker.
Obviously I’m more trustworthy than you ‘assume’.
I’m really lost as to where you got that. I fired you up 1 day, & somehow that translates to a broad generalization? You are the Agnostic-In-Charge or something?
Don’t hurt yourself. & I’m not just ‘claiming credit’, I did so. That would be What, AKA zeke, AKA peters, the fella who called you Neoplasm? How could you forget?
So…you admit that I’m unaffiliated w/AA? Are you finally going to do the mature thing, & apologize? Why would I lie about such a thing? There’s nothing to gain from it.
All I’m trying to do here, is get you to back up your words w/deeds. You were the fella who always claims to be the ‘mature’ 1. You are the fella who said mature freethinkers should keep an open mind, & you got your apology 1st.
Besides, what are you gonna do, holler rude names @ me during recess?
If you’re not adult enough to apologize, meh, what can I do?
Oh, this is rich! The undisputed epitomes of puerility, arrogance, and narcissism—the “progressive, free-thinking,” Tweedledee and Tweedledum—locked in a deadly embrace over, ahem, maturity!
And this, the pièce de résistance:
demanded by someone who has demonstrably vandalized this blog; is incapable of controlling his callow indulgences in the basest of ad hominem; and who wouldn’t know an apology if he ever got slapped up side the head with one…
Oh stop! Both of you…you’re killing me! I-I can’t breath—I haven’t laughed this hard since last week!
Really, little mouse, nobody asked you. I am doing the same thing to Neo that I’ve done to you on multiple occasions: back it up. You walk the talk, or shut up.
Your link doesn’t point to anything besides a post anyways, so it’s hard to see what you find so funny.
As for ‘ad hominems’, I call it the way I see it. Unlike religious trout, who see it the way they call it.
Dave,
When I first found this site a few years ago there were several interesting voices which led to discussions of some merit. I stopped visiting on a regular basis for three reasons (well, probably five if one includes the racist antisemitic contributors).
As far as I can tell those three reasons are still the major players here. I can’t prove it but I would guess that the reasons why all those other posters left are the same as mine. Are you so afraid to ban them? Do you think it makes you intolerant? It is true that the count is elevated every time they comment, but for the wrong reasons. They are succeeding in their confessed intention to disrupt this blog.
Banning them would result in a temporary lull but eventually I think you would find some intelligent people with a genuine interest in discussion.