Comments on: Atheist Tweets Abortion http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Charlie http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion/comment-page-1#comment-114092 Charlie Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:19:51 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=2280#comment-114092 wow.....I didnt realize my crazy atheist ideas was a religion....those crazy far-fetched ideas like...snakes cant talk, supernatural beings dont impregnate human beings...seas cant be magically parted....women was not created from mans rib and so on....no one has a special place to go to after death....no one is having a discussion with a super natural being...man what crazy beliefs I have.... wow…..I didnt realize my crazy atheist ideas was a religion….those crazy far-fetched ideas like…snakes cant talk, supernatural beings dont impregnate human beings…seas cant be magically parted….women was not created from mans rib and so on….no one has a special place to go to after death….no one is having a discussion with a super natural being…man what crazy beliefs I have….

]]> By: Chris B http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion/comment-page-1#comment-114088 Chris B Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:58:44 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=2280#comment-114088 I wouldn't assume that 90% of atheists are pro-choice. Conception is the most scientifically valid point in time to say that a new animal has begun life, even if the vast majority of those fertilized eggs naturally abort. What I can't figure out are the non-scientific/philosophical reasons the religious right opposes abortion. I suppose they link it to promiscuity or the thwarting of gawd's plan. "Christian Scientists" oppose medical care for the later reason. I wouldn’t assume that 90% of atheists are pro-choice. Conception is the most scientifically valid point in time to say that a new animal has begun life, even if the vast majority of those fertilized eggs naturally abort.

What I can’t figure out are the non-scientific/philosophical reasons the religious right opposes abortion. I suppose they link it to promiscuity or the thwarting of gawd’s plan. “Christian Scientists” oppose medical care for the later reason.

]]> By: jcc http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion/comment-page-1#comment-114086 jcc Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:40 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=2280#comment-114086 <blockquote>JCC, come up with an answer that doesn’t use hatred, bigotry, racism or self-righteous hypocrisy and ambiguity.</blockquote>Your run-up to that request was kinda all over the board; I'll be happy to answer any question you have of me, but would you mind restating all that a little more succinctly?<blockquote>JCC, what if atheism was suddenly declared a religion and then made the law?</blockquote>Atheism, by definition, <i><b>IS</b></i> a religion—it is inarguably a <b>belief</b> system about the existence of God and those practicing it have been incrementally <b>making</b> it law by slowing outlawing the free practice of its biggest competition—Christianity. Their success in doing so has been precisely because they operate under the guise of it <b>not</b> being an organized belief system (i.e. a <b>religion</b>) and the American public has yet to open its eyes to it.<blockquote>Even atheists wouldn’t like it.</blockquote>Au contraire—they revel in it; they celebrate it; they take pride in the fact that they have declared war on Christianity by successfully pulling the wool over the eyes of the American public and have rammed <i>their <b>religious</b></i> agenda down our throats under the pretense of it being merely a “secular” one.<blockquote>freedom is truly the core of most atheists. Freedom of all sorts.</blockquote>I beg to differ—it’s exactly the opposite: atheism, now that it has been promulgated into law, is the purest form of fascism humans have ever devised. Legalized abortion is the greatest example of this: it intentionally deprives an innocent human being his/her God-given freedom to live and it purposefully denies <b>any</b> rights of the father. “Hate” crimes legislation is another huge abrogation of our First Amendment freedoms by atheists because it punishes not what was physically done, but what was presumed to be <i>thought</i> at the time. Atheism doesn’t foster freedom—it intentionally destroys it by breeding tyranny of the most pernicious kind.

JCC, come up with an answer that doesn’t use hatred, bigotry, racism or self-righteous hypocrisy and ambiguity.

Your run-up to that request was kinda all over the board; I’ll be happy to answer any question you have of me, but would you mind restating all that a little more succinctly?

JCC, what if atheism was suddenly declared a religion and then made the law?

Atheism, by definition, IS a religion—it is inarguably a belief system about the existence of God and those practicing it have been incrementally making it law by slowing outlawing the free practice of its biggest competition—Christianity. Their success in doing so has been precisely because they operate under the guise of it not being an organized belief system (i.e. a religion) and the American public has yet to open its eyes to it.

Even atheists wouldn’t like it.

Au contraire—they revel in it; they celebrate it; they take pride in the fact that they have declared war on Christianity by successfully pulling the wool over the eyes of the American public and have rammed their religious agenda down our throats under the pretense of it being merely a “secular” one.

freedom is truly the core of most atheists.
Freedom of all sorts.

I beg to differ—it’s exactly the opposite: atheism, now that it has been promulgated into law, is the purest form of fascism humans have ever devised. Legalized abortion is the greatest example of this: it intentionally deprives an innocent human being his/her God-given freedom to live and it purposefully denies any rights of the father. “Hate” crimes legislation is another huge abrogation of our First Amendment freedoms by atheists because it punishes not what was physically done, but what was presumed to be thought at the time. Atheism doesn’t foster freedom—it intentionally destroys it by breeding tyranny of the most pernicious kind.

]]> By: NonTheist DoGooder http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion/comment-page-1#comment-114054 NonTheist DoGooder Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:41:30 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=2280#comment-114054 I think abortion is an evil catch 22. And I would like to put this to any person, even Xtians and JCC. Nobody likes abortion. Nobody wants abortion. What many want is the right to choose. Atheists don't as a whole support this. And I don't believe that 90% really support abortion, but believe a woman should have a choice, just like she has the choice of the man. She doesn't know whether a man is going to turn out good or bad. We do know the religious support murder and often do it publicly and indirectly. Conservatives often support evil reprisal in response to breaking the law, but then at the same time, don't support birth control of any sort, yet will allow people who don't have a chance, be born into a world that is intolerable of them. JCC, come up with an answer that doesn't use hatred, bigotry, racism or self-righteous hypocrisy and ambiguity. I would inspire us all to come up with a good solution for this issue, but no matter what liberals and thinkers come up with, conservatives and the religious will never agree. This is essentially what congress has become. We need to have a world free from tyranny and evil and that starts with people accepting each other. This country was made with a separation of church and state for a reason. JCC, what if atheism was suddenly declared a religion and then made the law? Even atheists wouldn't like it. Because freedom is truly the core of most atheists. Freedom of all sorts. Let's work together on this. My mother died when I was a child because she wouldn't practice birth control. What an awful place that has left my whole family for all of our lives. What if that was you? I think abortion is an evil catch 22. And I would like to put this to any person, even Xtians and JCC.
Nobody likes abortion. Nobody wants abortion. What many want is the right to choose.
Atheists don’t as a whole support this. And I don’t believe that 90% really support abortion, but believe a woman should have a choice, just like she has the choice of the man. She doesn’t know whether a man is going to turn out good or bad.
We do know the religious support murder and often do it publicly and indirectly.
Conservatives often support evil reprisal in response to breaking the law, but then at the same time, don’t support birth control of any sort, yet will allow people who don’t have a chance, be born into a world that is intolerable of them. JCC, come up with an answer that doesn’t use hatred, bigotry, racism or self-righteous hypocrisy and ambiguity.
I would inspire us all to come up with a good solution for this issue, but no matter what liberals and thinkers come up with, conservatives and the religious will never agree. This is essentially what congress has become.
We need to have a world free from tyranny and evil and that starts with people accepting each other. This country was made with a separation of church and state for a reason. JCC, what if atheism was suddenly declared a religion and then made the law? Even atheists wouldn’t like it. Because freedom is truly the core of most atheists.
Freedom of all sorts.
Let’s work together on this. My mother died when I was a child because she wouldn’t practice birth control. What an awful place that has left my whole family for all of our lives. What if that was you?

]]> By: Charlie http://atheists.org/blog/2010/03/01/atheist-tweets-abortion/comment-page-1#comment-114047 Charlie Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:29:17 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=2280#comment-114047 oppps....here's a better link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-life_movement oppps….here’s a better link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-life_movement

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