American Atheists is deeply saddened to hear of the tragic events involving our soldiers at Ft Hood. Our VP and Military Director Kathy Johnson is stationed there and is unharmed. At this point, we know very little, but we have confidence in our military to secure the base and ensure the safety of our troops.
UPDATE: According to Kathy, who is a crime scene investigator and on the scene in Ft. Hood, this does appear to be a religiously motivated event. The investigation continues.
Thanks. I knew Kathleen worked there so I’m glad to hear she is fine but saddened by the events.
Fox News is rolling out the hate already. In speaking with Sen. Hutchison about the suspect Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, Shepard Smith asked, “The name says a lot, does it not, Senator?” To which she replied, “It does, it does, Shepard.” *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge*
Jonathan Hunt had this to add later on Fox, “That name may hint at certain things.”
Would they have been doing the wink and nudge if it had been a Christian? Of course not.
But it wasn’t a christian or a jew,hindu,atheist or anything else it was a muslim.This is not the first time a muslim soldier has turned on his fellow soldiers it happened some yrs ago in kuwait.Security forces can’t ignore this anymore than they should ignore that jews have a history of spying for israel.To do so would be irresponsible.
The shooter was born in Virginia and listed “No religious preference” on his personnel records. It a appears that he was a physician – the media is writing that he is a psychiatrist – and served in the military for 14 years.
I’ll give 10 to 1 odds that this man, because of his ethnicity, was treated like absolute dog shit in our xian infested right wing military.
bigsam says:
Kind of puts a crimp on all of those surveys Dave sites to tell us atheism is on the rise…eh?
I’ll give 10 to 1 odds that this man, because of his ethnicity, was treated like absolute dog shit in our xian infested right wing military.
Wow…talk about someone being filled with hatred. Clearly your hate filled mind doesn’t allow you to think clearly or logically.
You mean the kind of hatred that makes xians treat muslims like dog shit. Get real you deluded twit.
He was supposedly constantly harassesed, and had his car vandalized, no doubt by Christians, still I don’t have it in me to say they had it coming.
harassed
Im retired military that spent 2 years at Hood….f monotheism….and a special f u to christianity, which has its slimy paws in our military….
we must acknowledge that this barbarism comes from all of monotheism….
suck it fox news
What an unfathomably erudite stream of consciousness that can produce such searingly articulate and profoundly original thoughts.
…while at the same time affirming that not a single drop of blood has ever been shed by all of atheism…
Seeing as atheism isn’t a religion, no it hasn’t…
and why do we have a chaplains corp…wtf
Just more evidence proving it is a myth…
How does this work for you…
Separation of church is not a myth, it is an ideal. We don’t fully live up to it (like most ideals), but it is still worthwhile to try.
hers the link to the United States Army Ghost Corp….
http://www.goarmy.com/chaplain/
Glad to hear johnson is okay,my thoughts go out to the victims and their families.
Jingoism is religion with guns
the truth remains that this violence comes from a disagreement about a belief in a super natural being….
Right, and there were certainly no ideological or theological differences between atheist tyrants like Stalin, Mao and Pot and the millions they butchered. Nope, the blood on their hands was the result of purely secular, “territorial” struggles…
You’re quite the “informed” spokesman for your religion.
An insane madman instigated all of this violence. It was not instigated under the banner of atheism, unlike the violence and aggression clearly manifested by religion.
JCC
So Stalin, Mao and Pot killed millions? Personally? Of course not. Others carried out the orders and you can rest assured that those others were comprised of a lot of theists – most likely a majority. Go suck an egg.
Could you please direct me to the part of the Bible that condones or instructs Christians to dutifully follow the unambiguously immoral orders of an megalomaniac atheist?
Wow, another great example of articulate, and original brilliance from a “free thinking” atheist…
JCC
Did I say that the buybull says any such thing? They follow orders DESPITE the buybull. Your buybull is ineffectual.
Yeah, that’s the thing about having free will…
…and so are our laws (like unambiguous immigration regulations) that are willfully disobeyed or deliberately unenforced by those specifically charged with enforcing them… If only everyone were mind-numbed automatons like you atheists…
JCC
I will consider that an admission on your part to the key assertion made by me – that religion is ineffective. A waste of resources.
Oh little mouse…you do say the most amusingest things. That is, when you’re not repeating your schizophrenic mantras over & over again ad nauseum.
bigsam:
In the co-mingled sense that you’re using “religion,” no, not at all. Christianity, as found in the Bible, is, first and foremost, a personal relationship with Christ–not a religious one. What you would consider to be “religious” behaviors derived from that relationship are, in reality, voluntary ones borne of a grateful response to Christ’s saving grace—not the dictates of a capricious god.
Again, absolutely not. The accurate, eyewitness accounts of the life and teachings of Christ in the Bible make it possible to more fully realize the potential of that relationship.
Relationships w/imaginary people are usually considered a sign of mental illness.
Oh, riiiggghhtt…’believe or burn’. Real voluntary, that.
Absolutely so. Indulging oneself in questionable based on the capricious desires of a dictator deity who doesn’t exist is a waste on every level.
I was wrong. Repeating the same daft bullshit constantly doesn’t seem to lose it’s hilarity.
Psst! I got a secret:
Ain’t nobody there. You’re talking to yourself, bubba.
JCC
People can be manipulated to commit grotesque acts against others by many means. Appeal to religion is one of them. Admit to the obvious and move one.
bigsam, this guy was muslum. Did you see him in his monkey suit at a convience store? I’m trying like hell to not allow my distain for islam color my judgement on this one, but it’s nearly impossible. Do we have to cater to those that identify with a modern-day religion of death? Must we give them access to our most sensitive positions? Talk about sleeping with the enemy!
I didn’t write that he isn’t a muslim and indeed it does appear that he is a muslim. It also appears that he was a excellent and caring psychiatrist with 14 years of service to his country. So what could drive such a man to such acts? Being tormented by xians to go off and support the killing of muslims in an unjust war motivated by the religious-based hate of US xians is high on the list.
Hi, I’m new here. Just wondered if you’d heard the NPR report stating that Dr. Hasan actually had a fairly poor record of service at Walter Reed. He had been reviewed for poor performance, after which he shaped up somewhat, so they sent him to Fort Hood hoping he would do better there. Additionally, patients had formally complained that Hasan was proselytizing. Dogma is dogma, whether it be Christian, Muslim, or Humanist. Let’s discuss the “religion” card. I’m convinced that lifelong indoctrination of any dogma has a powerful effect on the brain. I hope someone is doing research in this area.
The carnage is over and now the prayers will begin, “oh jesus be with the family’s” “lord of mercy be with us.”
But where was jesus and allah, jehovah and thor while the shooting was going on?
The christians say god gave us free will, so the major used his free will to butcher over a dozen and wound many more, but the victims were denied their free will, I would be willing to bet if a poll was taken, we would push to 100 percentile in the I would rather not be butchered category. So where were the super friends. If you are a believer this should be a cause for concern, you go to your lord in prayer after the fact and ask it to do things for which no evidence exists will ever be done.
If your a non believer you might want to send a card to the victims family’s and let them know real people are thinking of them.
Maintaining His gift of free will to all.
By the shooter–NOT GOD.
More dazzling and impeccable use of logic by atheists whose superior use of “reason” makes them irrefutably, “real people”…
How sweet the gift that results in murder.
As I understand you, the “free will” of the murderer takes priority over the “free will” of the victim according to the way in which your God has created “free will?” You’re right, that is a true gift from your God, and certainly what one would expect of a just and loving God such as yours.
More condescending, sarcastic vomit from another morally bankrupt “true” Christian. It seems your petty, irrelevant commentary continues to expose you as the typically angry, fundamentalist incapable of debating without resorting to school yard name calling. What a mental midget. (and yes, I never said I was above name calling)
From your posts as of late, JCC, I expect to see you flying a plane into a building somewhere any day now.
Nobody there, so that’s a good laugh.
Oh dear. No, it’s a natural consequence of that gift (how sad that this simple concept proves to be so elusive to “free-thinkers”).
Uh no. This isn’t complicated: if everyone has free will, then by definition, everyone is free to do as they wish—including killing unarmed, innocent people—there are no “priorities” involved.
Yes, the equal distribution of free will is exactly what a just and loving God would give us—because that’s being consistent.
Condescending, sarcastic—you bet; “morally bankrupt”?—prove it.
“Irrelevant?” Yeah, ain’t it funny how the threads I post on consistently have the highest volume on this blog? “Incapable of debating without resorting to school yard name calling?” Right, my posts are just dripping with puerile epithets. My, what a firm and amazingly reliable grip on reality you have…
(and you’ve never behaved as if you were)… Yeah, I guess I am a “mental midget,”… but again, ain’t it funny how I can consistently end up chappin’ your butt? So, how ya suppose such a deficient person can always manage to do that to such a towering giant of intelligence like you?…
Yeah… better watch yourself… Lately, I’ve really been itchin’ to twist-off and do something like that—in fact, i-if I had moderation privileges here, I-I’m certain I’d be altering the posts of individuals I absolutely despise a-and in some cases, actually resort to deleting my own embarrassing posts. A-and then, sometimes, just hover like a gnat around conversations involving individuals I absolutely despise a-and drop in embarrassingly idiotic little posts—just to feed my obsessive compulsion to feel relevant here…
Okay, this has gone on long enough. Once I do a full exposition, hopefully you’ll have enough self-awareness to be embarrassed. But it’s doubtful.
After I altered your one post (3 whole letters – horrors!), I had the bright idea of deleting my own posts, so it would look like you were talking to yourself. But that seemed inadequate. Then it hit me.
So I flamed you twice on 1 of your favorite topics – atheism as religion – & when you responded as expected, I deleted my posts. You responded quite predictably. Knowing full well that you were keeping an eye on the situation, I deleted your post. Your response could be seen a mile away.
& not only did you respond as expected, you’ve mentioned it several times, including here, as if it were some sort of victory, when in actuality, I manipulated you to behave the way you have.
In short, you have been pwned.
Which is why I now call you ‘little mouse’. I managed to trick the mouse into thinking it was a cat, to the extent that it squeaks @ the moon & claims it’s howling.
I’m glad Kathleen is unharmed physically. It must be quite a mental shock to all the survivors, family, friends and community in general. Let the healing begin.
From Associated Press:
http://www.kvue.com/news/Army-Suspect-said-Allahu-Akbar-before-shooting–69367417.html
FORT HOOD, Texas — The base commander at Fort Hood says soldiers who witnessed a shooting rampage that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire at the Texas post.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone told NBC’s “Today” show on Friday that suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for “God is great!” before the rampage Thursday that also left 30 people wounded.
More info at the url above.
Hey JCC, you think you and Phree could put your heads together and come up with some new excuses for your gawd? You know, something like–He was busy helping typhoon victims in Vietnam. By the time He heard gunfire, it was too late. The old “free will” excuse is just that-old and used up. “Free will” can now be equated with negligence, sadism, and intentionally pitting his “children” against each other. Wow! What a daddy He is, huh?
The same kind of daddy we would put behind bars.
It seems some are simply incapable of comprehending the concept…
Actually, no, she’s hit it right on the head.
& what are you still doing here, little mouse?
I look forward to ridiculing religion every time I visit a military base…why do my tax dollars support these asinine religious institutions….we have a core document that runs this country that explicitly states “Congress shall make No Laws Respecting the Establishment of Religion” and one of the powers of our Congress, which is also in this document, is to maintain an Army….congress ought to be telling the Army….No Respecting Religion….fucking period!!!!!
why does the US Army Ghost Corp exist?…I am so disgusted at stupid fucking religion….
this is the power as stated:
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress
We need to tell our congress to follow the “F” in rules by demanding no respecting of religion in our Army….
Hey look! They’re having a church service for the victims. Finally all the problems will be solved. Just lay a lil’ gawd on it and convince the grievers that the dead are still alive–somewhere, floating, hovering over them, most likeley smiling down at them, happy, content. Poof! Instant healing.
Lloyd Blankfein says he is doing “God’s work”. Hmm. Which god is that?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6907681.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
For those of you that dont’ know, Llyod Blankfein is CEO of Goldman Sachs which has famously been called “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money,”.
Our deepest and most sincere condolences are with all those individuals and families affected by this horrible brutal attack on our service men and women at Ft. Hood.
May a reasoned and diligent criminal investigation proceed so that we can find the necessary answers and bring some semblance of justice and closure for the greater good of our community.
Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers Founder, Military Director of the American Atheists and friend, Kathleen Johnson, works at Ft. Hood.
In response to the recent speech by President Obama with inclusive and positive language regarding non-believers in the military, she writes,
“The tragedy of Ft. Hood claimed soldiers regardless of what they believe in respect to religion, though. Our armed forces — at all levels — need to be united. It’s good to know that our Commander-in-Chief shares that vision.”
Thank you Kathleen for your long time military service and for your care and compassion for our military personnel and our human family.
E Pluribus Unum
Steve Schlicht
Biloxi MS
Somebody in the media finally had the guts to call it what it was: Islamo-fascist terrorism.
http://tinyurl.com/yj79h5q
And what would you call the Invasion of Iraq? You are one deluded puppy.
The liberation of an oppressed nation from a murderous tyrant.
And what would you call it?–lemme guess, “blood for oil” or some other hackneyed, liberal, cliché that’s utterly divorced from reality… yep, I’m the “deluded” one here.
Oh that’s precious. The invasion was more murderous than the tyrant. Get a clue you religiously deluded apologist for war crimes.
Just as expected; a hackneyed, liberal and wrongcliché regurgitated verbatim from the New York Times.
Well that’s original… what else ya got?
That’s it? That’s your response? You are one sick sick monster.
It is actually another case of religious *and* political terrorist extremism as a result of other psychosis, obsessions, ego and a sense of absolutism.
Much like the actions of Scott Roeder, Jim Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, etc.
I don’t care what you believe or don’t believe, but I’m certainly against people flipping out and committing mass killings.
Pat Robertson speaks
Ironically this being said by a leader of the American political movement most aligned with facism and domestic terrorism.
Pat Robertson has become an atheist?
That you would equate atheists w/fascism & domestic terrorism, is a profound testament to your mental instability.
Seek help.
The hate that we breed:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/tampa-police-marine-reservist-attacked-greek-priest-he-mistook-for/1050707
Atheism = fascism and domestic terrorism: http://tinyurl.com/5zjabu
Since none of those people are even atheist, your point makes no sense. Then again, most of your points make no sense.
Lack of belief in the supernatural = fascism and domestic terrorism?
Cognitive dissonance, thy name is little mouse.
I might add, that a youtube video is the 1st refuge of someone who doesn’t have a clue.