There’s this town in Florida called Ft. Lauderdale. Some of you may have heard of it. About 20,000 atheists live there.
Florida Atheists and Secular Humanists (FLASH), an American Atheists affiliated group led by our Southern Florida Regional Director, put up a terrible sign.
Of course, there are some who can’t stand to have a harmless and positive-message billboard near them. They want to hate, but they have nothing to hate, so they just hate. They make their children drone on about how the sign must come down. They expose their own ignorance to their children, who clearly aren’t interested.
Congrats to Ken Loukinen and FLASH for the billboard and the press generated therefrom. And to those who hate the billboard, stop being so intolerant. The billboards are there because there are atheists there — in your neighborhood. Believe me, you know plenty of atheists, and they need signs like these.
And these — now in Idaho!
Uh oh, more fuel for Godless Sodomite’s anti-black fire. What a bunch of morons though. I’m sure the billboard will open a few eyes in this “highly spiritual” community, but I would think recruiting would be a little more effective a bit further from Big Mama’s turf. Not because I think she will successfully thwart the effort, just that the community strikes me as a bit beyond repair in the thinking department.
ShowMe
OK. Anyone?
A- The first statement was a joke.
B- They’re morons because of what they said, I couldn’t care less about the color of their skin.
C- “Community” refers to the area and people in it exposed to the billboard- white or black.
Ah yes C. Of course. The entire community was spoke, did it?.
Nice try.
Crap. Typo.
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Ah yes, C. Of course! The entire community spoke, did it?.
Nice try.
Oh common what, being politically correct can only be taken so far. The people in the video were really fucking dumb, and if their neighbors are anything like them, they won’t be attending many FLASH get-togethers.
Do I really need to say anything? the video of “Big Mama” says it all. I choose to live in reality whereas many of the rest of you make excuses and force yourselves not to see the word as it really is. I have lived and worked in a majority black area for the past 12 years (Durham, NC) and in those years a very definite pattern has emerged for me regarding black folks; should I just look the other way and ignore it or should I acknowledge it and take precautions to protect myself accordingly? The statistics on race and crime/religiosity/homophobia all back up my attitude which is why I no longer hide it or apologise for it.
I know plenty of rednecks that do the same thing.
Look, I’ve observed the same type of attitudes here in St. Louis, from white and black alike. I feel for you, and you’re not 100% wrong. However, we also have the largest gay population in America, if you go by the percentage of the population, and for every jackass there’s a tolerant person to match.
It’s not the “race” (which is a bad description anyway), but the socio-economic and cultural adversity they’ve been forced into. If you need an example, just look at the way the Crips were formed.
Do you know what the original crips wanted? They wanted to join the Boy Scouts. On this blog, I think that holds a special irony.
Now, since that time, and since MLK was killed, we’ve seen the african american community generally reject education. Then (at least in my home town) we have the substnadard housing which is old and contaminated with lead paint.
My point is that the argument of genetic inferiority is bullshit. Sounds like you have a regional problem. Maybe you should move out of the backward ass south.
GS,
What pattern has emerged?
what,
In all the math books I’ve seen, a sequence of three numbers is usually considered sufficient to establish a pattern. Your sequence 2,4,6,8… has four. What other number, besides 10, would be consistent with this pattern?
What was it you said in the Katrina thread? Oh yes – they should’ve just moved.
So should you.
So, in 12 years you’ve not made a single black friend? Every single 1 of them has harassed/accosted/spit on you?
When you walk in fear or in anger, you become a target.
Always, you’re either the victim, or the lone warrior battling against ignorance. It’s tiresome – you need a new MO, pal.
NSF
The problem is that what is meant by “a pattern” is not stated. Does one mean a mathematical formula with independent variables 1,2,3,4,5, … which generate a sequential set of numbers? If so then I can give you such a formula where instead of 10 you place any number.
Until one mathematically defines what properties the next number in the sequence should have then there can be no correct answer.
This:
Does one mean a mathematical formula with independent variables 1,2,3,4,5, which generate a sequential set of numbers?
Should have read as this:
Does one mean a mathematical formula y=f(x) with independent variables x = 1,2,3,4,5, which generate a given sequence of dependent variables y?
what
Please do so.
What f(x) results in:
f(1)=2
f(2)=4
f(3)=6
f(4)=8
f(5)≠10
OK. Choose a number for f(5).
What grade is your daughter in?
Give me a range of numbers, for which you can devize an f(5) simple enuff for her level of math learning.
NSF
Here is just such a function. f(1)=2, f(2)=4, f(3) = 6, f(4)=8, f(5)=1006. A one-to-one mapping between dependent and independent variables defines a function. But if by “function” one means a so called closed-form function then I can generate the same sequence by using Lagrange interpolation (Google it if you like). By Lagrange interpolation one can, for any f(5), give a polynomial of order 5 or less which will generate the desired sequence.
My daughter is in third grade but that is irrelevant to the ill-posed nature of the question. The question has no unique answer obtained by mathematical reasoning. One could constrain the problem in such a manner that an f(5) is uniquely determined but these tests questions do not do so.
How is your daughter’s grade irrelevant?
There is no such thing as a “perfectly-posed” question. It can only be well-posed or ill-posed in a particular context — in this case, in the context of how much math a 3rd-grader is expected to know.
Any 3rd-grader should recognize a sequence that counts by 2s or 3s etc, but how many have ever heard of a Lagrange interpolation?
NSF
I have no idea what point you are trying to make. These questions are meant to test intelligence and reasoning ability. They do not.
My daughters age is irrelevant because she is but one example of people exposed to these ill-posed questions. All questions are not ill-posed.
NSF- go take an online IQ test here or at any other site, and you’ll realize that many of the questions are subjective and favor particular ways of thinking. I believe that IQ tests give a generally solid idea of one’s intelligence, but what what is trying to point out is that black people may think differently as a result of their environment, and they would score lower on the test despite having relatively “equal” intelligence.
http://www.highiqsociety.org/iq_tests/
Many of the questions, especially patterns and visual questions, could be debated depending on how one thinks. The SAT and ACT tests, to a lesser extent in my opinion, have portions that can be viewed the same way, and thus have a bias to a particular thinking style.
Now you are inferring the intelligence of an entire community based on the ones that open their mouths and remove all doubt. Got any vocal and stupid neighbors?
what,
Consider that blacks score on average 17 points less than whites on IQ tests and draw your own conclusions.
I think the recent New Haven, Conn. case in which 118 applicants took tests for a promotion and no blacks passed has made a lot of Americans face an inconvenient truth about differences in average abilities between racial groups.
Godless
My last comment wasn’t directed your way. I just clicked the wrong reply button. Nevertheless …
IQ tests should not be taken as a reliable measure of intelligence. I certainly would put the margin of error higher than 20%. This is especially the case for high end scores that skew averages over some group. Same for are SATs, ACTs etc. Socialization influences these tests and the testee far too much. As an example there are questions that often appear on such tests that are similar to the following:
Choose the number that best completes the following sequence: 2, 4, 6, 8, __ ?
Mathematically, as stated, there is no “best” number. The question is ill-posed. Yet most will answer 10. What can explain this answer: socialization – a conditioned knee-jerk response that has little to nothing to do with reasoning. In the actual tests the sequences become progressively more “complicated” thereby making the goal of divining the “appropriate” conditioned response, rather than a correct mathematical response, even more difficult.
My daughter recently brought home a homework assignment with a set of questions of this type. I talked to her teacher about the type of problem and after much consideration she finally realized the questions are bogus. Sometimes the test takers are smarter than the test writers!
This is just one example of the problems with such tests but you can easily see the potential for scores differing as a result of different socialization.
GS,
Do you really believe that blacks are inherently un-intelligent or less intelligent that whites?
Have you ever considered that the “BLACKS” scored lower for reasons other than skin color? Such as lack of opportunities, motivation, education, experiences, social or environmental factors, etc.
If you are equating skin color to intelligence then your logic is horribly flawed. The application of Reductio Ad Absurdum would so appropriate…
Let me know if I’m missing something.
My post got into the wrong reply queue, somehow.
I think it belongs here.
I think it is a great place for the sign. Has xianity served blacks well?
Don’t get me wrong. I’m 100% behind the sign, and I believe it’s the perfect message atheists should be sending. I was simply pointing out that from a recruiting standpoint- it doesn’t seem like the area most likely to be full of atheists.
Which is why it’s the perfect place for it. “Big Mama” may have gotten the idiots from channel 7 to come out and cover her grandstanding, but I do wonder how many will say to themselves “why do I worship my former slave masters’ god?”
I want one in North St. Louis, just in sight of the african american community and the archdiocese!!! Whom do I talk to?
Very true- I hadn’t originally thought of it that way, but publicity is publicity.
What,
Let my family and friends tell it, Xianity has not only saved their lives but it is their purpose for living. I think my family and other religious blacks see parallels between the Jews being led out of bondage… and the struggles blacks have endured to get free from slavery. Historically, the church has served as a platform/vessel for blacks to successfully address political, social, and economic issues. During the age of segregation and inequalities, the church was the only environment where a large number of blacks could assemble; feel safe, relevant, and strong enough to address racial injustices. (Rev. Martin L. King, Malcolm X, Rev. Jessie Jackson, Rev Al S. etc) I think these connections have made some deep and long lasting impressions on blacks and they find it difficult to separate from the church.
I also think many minorities are in too deep to see that the cause of their pain and suffering is the very thing they cling for deliverance from it. This is the type of paradox that can only exist in the minds of the deluded.
My point is that Xianity has served blacks well indeed:
1 They’ve been well served by a deep senseless screwing of injustice, orchestrated by Xianity, on one end; at biblical proportions.
2 And on the other, Xianity has taught them how to better endure,tolerate, and perpetuate the senseless screwing onto others…
3 They are now so efficient at senseless screwing, they can’t muster enough thought to realize that they are F**king themselves… The sad part is they love it!
I guess it has served them well… depending on your perspective
Atheon
It’s much like the story of the my-way-or-the-highway take-no-prisoners sheriff that rides into town to clean up the old west lawlessness only to become an equally insufferable source of injustice. No?
And of course Stockholm syndrome.
What,
I completely agree.
That is the best explanation I’ve ever heard. Falls right in line with the appeal of liberation theology that most black churches espouse.
The more that go up, the better.
How about getting one up in Va?
On this I95 corredor is one of the biggest travel areas in the US
The state has voted blue recently.
A sign would fuel the momentum and push further to the b belt.
Richmond was the capital of the confederacy.
And it really seems to me that it’s those same conservative people that are the fuel for all this.
A sign like this would be good.
But I can hear the parents now. Look over there (as they’re driving by the sign pointing across the street to distract children)
I thought I saw Jebus.
I do see more and more people sharing their secular thoughts as I communicate mine.
People will still go to church because they don’t want to be social outcasts and much culture here is based on church. Still it appears to me that less and less people are going to church and more people are becoming acceptant of me.
I don’t think the democraticness or republicanness of a state matters.. Aren’t billbords open for lease to anyone that wants to lease them and open to thier message?
Driving on I-77 from the time you hit WV until Charlotte I see anywhere from 15-30 Jesus billboards in a few hours. Not to mention upwards of 100 giant crosses along the side of the road.
Now that’s a joke…Dave, you’re one of the most intolerant individuals I know.
As I suspected, the Phreek isn’t a church-going xian.
Speaking of hypocrisy…Dave how come you’re not posting about the gay atheist child rapist? You know if it was a priest you’d be standing on the rooftops…
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102740
I guess this guy is what you’d call a “good person” because he doesn’t have God…
More proof and reasons why gays should NEVER be allowed to adopt. This guy is a rapist…wouldn’t he also be a gay atheist pedophile?
With or without “god,” you will have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things.. I wouldn’t expect EVERY atheist to be of the sort you find on this blog. Sure, you’l read about this kind of thing every now and again however, I’m sure when and if he’s convicted and meets up with “thunderd*ck in prison, he will be asking god for forgiveness…
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Phreedom says – More proof and reasons why gays should NEVER be allowed to adopt. This guy is a rapist…wouldn’t he also be a gay atheist pedophile?
“GOD!” what an intollerant / asshole thing to say!
Dumbest.bigoted.comment.ever
If one gay atheist harming a child proves that all gays should not be allowed to adopt, does one Christian harming a child prove that all people afflicted with idiotic ancient superstitions should not be allowed to reproduce?
Since it does happen sometimes that a Christian harms a child, maybe we need to outlaw marriages between Christians?
UnGodly,
Where does it mention that this monster is an atheist?
Very good Alex…you go to the front of the class with the pointed hat.
The main stream media also ignored the fact that he was gay…now why do you suppose that is? Could it be that it would cast a dark shadow on gay adoption? They always ignore news stories that cast “gays” in a negative light.
Responses to my “outrageous” comments prove my point. It’s so easy to follow Dave’s bigoted comments about priests or Christians, but it’s an entirely different story when someone makes a sweeping statement about gays,(gays make up a huge segment of atheists in America)…now, you tell me…exactly who is intolerant and a bigot?
Of course the Phreek will be equally upset whenever the media doesn’t mention a criminals xianity. Too funny.
phreedm,
The BTK Killer is a Christian. He was elected president of his church council. He raped, tortured and murdered ten people. Perhaps Christians should not be allowed to roam free at night. You know, can’t trust them.
What does the story of the child rapist have to do with religion or atheism? Was he the local organizer of American Atheists or a catholic priest? No.
WAIT – where does it say he was an atheist?
Nowhere. Does it matter what his belief system is? No.
Gilles de Rais was extremely religious, & he ended up raping & sacrificing little boys.
If this story had a religious or atheist slant to it then I would be the first to post it in here but since it has nothing to do with the subject matter discussed in this blog it really isnt relevant. In any case, I cant escape the news coverage of this monsters actions since it happened literally in my backyard. Sick! I hope he gets the maximum penalty, if found guilty, up to and including the death peanlty.
Phreedm,
please share the info that labels this person as atheist. I read the article twice and saw no mention. Or is this more proof and reason we should NEVER believe what comes from the mouth (or fingertips) of believers.
Boy , you are a xian. You lie without blinking. If the press was surpressing elements of the story, then why do I know about it?
Nowhere in the article does it claim that the accused is an atheist.
And if WorldNetDaily is your primary source of news, then you’re more psychotic than the child rapist you’re so worked up about.
Once again i call for another vote to remove this destructive force from the blog. he is a counter-productive factor that just distracts us from what’s really important.
Do I have a second?
“GOD!” what an intollerant / asshole thing to say!
No, it’s the christian thing to say.
For all its hate, bias and bile, we should thank phreedm, jcc and the like, for bringing us the chrisitan way
Awesome! It just shows the ignorance of Big Mama and the other business owners/customers. I hope it gets tons of press.
We had a billboard here in Boise that caused a little grief, but overall, no big deal.
Great strategy to put this in a religious area so it becomes more controversial.
I’ve, in a very small way, grown to appreciate posts by phreedm and Jcc. They serve as a profound reminder of how Christianity — and those who are fundamentalist in their religious beliefs — have nothing to offer.
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Regarding the topic at hand, promoting a “controversial” concept requires that it be promoted in a community where it will create the most controversy. Advertising 101.
Good work FLASH!
I agree, the occasional childish rant from a fundie reminds us of why we’re involved in the movement, and why the culture war is not yet over.
Whenever I get burned out on Atheist activism, I just think back to when I was a miserable unwilling Christian. Then I remember that there are still millions of people who are in that position today. They need our help, even from afar, even from another country, even in a different language. Most of them don’t know what to do, or who can help them. We have to keep up the good fight, so to speak.
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I really like these billboards. They send a positive message about atheism without resorting to religion bashing, which is exactly what I think the atheist movement should be focusing on.
Ah, but the very existence of openly atheistic individuals who use neutral language to spread their worldview is apparently intolerably offensive to the delicate sensibilities of some in the African-American community of Ft Lauderdale, Fl. Dont black people have much more pressing concerns in their communities than stifling freedom of speech displayed on a billboard? Crime, HIV, drugs, and dead beat fathers for starters.
Perhaps I should go on the local news here in Chapel Hill, NC demanding that the billboards along I-85 and I-40 advertising churches are an affront to the progressive and highly educated secular community in which I live and must come down. Turnabout is fairplay after all.
That would be fair play.
Just by stating you dont believe in thier claims is extreme bashing all by itself….you heathen blasphemer….
Thanks for the flash of inspiration, FLASH!
Hey Dave- wouldn’t this be a great project for every afiliate
atheist organization in the country? Put up one of these billboards in a heavy traffic area, preferably with lots of churches. Maybe we will get lucky and there will be a “Big Mama” in every city to shoot off her mouth, and get us lots of free publicity.
As Chapman Cohen said, and I’ll have to paraphrase here: It is not enough to simply turn away from religion, one must actively work against it, because passivity is aiding and abetting the spread of the ignorance of religion. In other words, just sitting on our butts and blogging ain’t accomplishing anything.
The great thing about a billboard that makes the TV news is that it doesn’t have to be located near a Freethinking part of town. TV and the internet spread it all over the world!
On the other hand, I believe that in ever single church and every single religious community, there is at least one person who doesn’t want to be there, and would benefit from seeing a billboard like that. It would reassure them that humanity isn’t all crazy, no matter how much it seems like that in the little boxed in world many Christians live in.
Christianity is inherently intolerant and bigotted. The believer dismisses the charge of being intolerant and bigotted by stating he merely believes in the bible or god, and that god has said that certain things are evil. Since they believe that the word of god is infallible then how could it be wrong for them to believe and speak out about what god says.
Yes, and we all know how atheism, by its very nature, makes it virtually impossible for its adherents to be anything but monolithically accepting of all points of view; tolerant of all beliefs and lovingly embrace all cultural diversities, creeds and philosophies. Yes, that’s why atheists are universally known for their selfless charity, their over-abundant giving of their own money to others who are “less fortunate in ‘life’s lottery’”—that’s why in virtually everywhere you go in this great nation (which was inarguably founded on the rock-solid principles of “non-belief” in anything) you can’t avoid the influence of all the great altruistic, atheistic institutions that are dedicated to the charitable giving of their private funds to those less lucky.
Oh, what wonderful, sweet, loving, accepting people those atheists are…what a pillar of virtue atheism is…
Joseph Story , Supreme Court Justice appointed by Madison and eminent CONSTITUTIONAL scholar had this to say about the Framers’ DERISIVENESS of the BIGOTRY and PREJUDICE of Xtianity: “The remaining part of the clause declares, that “no religious test shall ever be required, as a qualification to any office or public trust, under the United States.” This clause is not introduced merely for the purpose of satisfying the scruples of many respectable persons, who feel an invincible repugnance to any religious test, or affirmation. It had a higher object; to cut off for ever every pretence of any alliance between church and state in the national government. The framers of the constitution were fully sensible of the dangers from this source, marked out in the history of other ages and countries; and not wholly unknown to our own. They knew, that bigotry was unceasingly vigilant in its stratagems, to secure to itself an exclusive ascendancy over the human mind; and that intolerance was ever ready to arm itself with all the terrors of the civil power to exterminate those, who doubted its dogmas, or resisted its infallibility. The Catholic and the Protestant had alternately waged the most ferocious and unrelenting warfare on each other; and Protestantism itself, at the very moment, that it was proclaiming the right of private judgment, prescribed boundaries to that right, beyond which if any one dared to pass, he must seal his rashness with the blood of martyrdom.”
“They knew, that bigotry was unceasingly vigilant in its stratagems, to secure to itself an exclusive ascendancy over the human mind; and that intolerance was ever ready to arm itself with all the terrors of the civil power to exterminate those, who doubted its dogmas, or resisted its infallibility. ”
The FRAMERS were presciently describing YOU, JCC, and YOU, phreedumbfromthought,and your DELUDED , BIGOTED, INTOLERANT ilk!
Thanks for providing authentic, firsthand verification of what wonderful, sweet, loving, accepting, and above all, tolerant people atheists are.
Jcc: you like to pontificate about “duality”, but actually you are a master of the psychological phenomena of”projection”!
I concur with the Framers’ and Justice Story’s assessment of the intolerance, bigotry, and obsession for control of the minds of others by religious, primarily xtian in America, theists. And they perfectly describe YOU—JCC=Jezeus Christ Creep!
Keep talking. Every word you write adds another brick to the wall of tolerance, acceptance, and “free-thought” that you’re building around yourself. Your posts bear an indelible, irrefutable, witness to the paragon of “progressive” and “enlightened” thought that your atheism has made you.
sorry jcc, your bigotry and intolerance is obvious; for me to merely acknowledge that FACT is NOT the same. It’s like saying because I acknowledge that Lions eat lambs ipso facto I eat lambs. They do not equate.
Your words here confirm, without a shadow of doubt, that you are a bigoted, intolearant theocrat, of the xtian stripe.
You painting me as an “atheist” is in error. Please point to ANY post where I have professed “atheism”.
jcc: what a pillar of virtue atheism is…
Youi mean, like the inquisition? Why don’t we ask the gnostics about your supposed “virtue”?
Oh, wait…
And you’re absolutely right! I’m completely intolerant of your “beliefs”. Why? because you use your professed beliefs to enforce your oh so special brand of tyranny on the whole of society.
You want to know the difference between Islam and christianity? About 600 years of history. Go back 600 years, and what do you have? the inquisition!
You do NOT practice intolerance. History has documented that many, many times.
Now, when it comes to your “charity”, well we all know that there’s no agenda there. Nooooo. If you were so concerned with the well being of those who are “less fortunate in life’s lottery”, then why are so many christians against welfare? Why was it gutted in the 90’s?
Because you couldn’t control the purse strings. You couldn’t use it as a tool to prostelyze, so you didn’t like it.
And I call bullshit on this “acceptance of cultural diverity” claim. Christianity is all about conformity. Cover those heathen african tits! Obey your pastor. Ostracize those who question that authority.
Mind control. Control what people THINK. Make their thinking conform to our needs, our self interests. Then we christians can exploit them.
Isn’t that right?
Adolf would have been proud.
well said, rat bastard!
JCC=Jezeus Christ Creep
Now JCC is taking offense in the fun had with his moniker and a mythological character.
Really? Then please forgive me. It’s just that what little sense I’ve been able to make of your diatribes indicates that you’re clearly hostile to non-atheists on an atheist blog. So, other than being the Christian-intolerant bigot that you’ve exposed yourself as being, if you’re not an atheist, then what, pray-tell are you?
Your worst nightmare, schmuck!
There you go again, JCC, projecting your OWN intolerance on others.
The Queen of Tu Quoque hath spoken!
Jcc, you’ve probably heard and used the old saw,”Love the sinner, hate the sin.”
I Like my “neighbors” but LOATHE their “isms”.
Christians give cash because “praying” is powerless.
No. Christians, give cash because they’re empowered by prayer. But that’s beside the point; atheist altruism is virtually non-existent compared to that of Christians.
So by praying, you authorize yourself to give cash…you can’t just give it because you can/want to? You could just skip a step and know that you’re allowed to do it because you have free will.
Atheism is merely non-belief in a supernatural deity. Atheism does not dictate anything as it is not a religion. On the other hand, the bigotry and intolerance is built into Christianity. Then, when pointed out, the bigotry and intolerance is denied. As an excuse the christian thinks all he has to say is that it is a teaching of god, as to what is good and what is evil. The morals at the time the bible was written, were very barbaric. That is why the bible and a great number of it’s contents are not applicable to the present times. The bible is archaic, from a time when ignorance reigned. It is puzzling as to why christians want to return to such a barbaric era.
The mistake individuals like jcc make is to think Atheism teaches morality. Atheism is merely non-belief, not a religion. Morals have been part of the human equation long before atheism and religion and are separate from both. Another mistake they make is not thinking about what they are writing and then submitting it anyway.
well said,dw. xtianity is BIGOTED and INTOLERANT by the very nature of its claim to exclusivity of salvation and damnation of those not sharing their delusional dogma.
Because during those barbaric times, christians were in control. If you weren’t a christian…well, we know how the Crusades and Inquisitions ended.
I think that this is the part of organized religion that has confused me the most…”We are tolerant people. If you don’t agree with us, we’ll kill you.”
these billboards are perfect for the july 4th holiday.black atheists need moral support they live in the most religious community in america.
phreedm
child abuse is a terrible thing no matter who does it.here is a golden opportunity for the church to help by creating programs to teach sex education, not how to do it but the state law and the churchs teaching on sex.
phreedumbfromthought:
I have some tender xtian baby butts I’m going to prepare for dinner.Do you like yours fried? BBQed? Roasted? Rare?Medium?
Well done?
YUMMY lil xtian baby butts!
OOOOOOH! Are you serving placenta on the side? Can I come?
si. placenta y arroz!
Ya’ll come…YUM YUM!
Reading here is like flushing the toilet after a really satisfying shit. Its like reading kindergarten math papers. It’s like trying to wake up a comatose patient. The freethinkers could prop your eyes open with toothpicks, but you still wouldn’t see.
And why is it that the real braindead idiots post ten for every one of everyone else? Why not just fart and call it music?
NeoWolfe
Thank you for your, ahem, words of wisdom free-thinker.
Well, you’re full of it, so you should know.
The woman said “That sign must come down” with a religous tag “In the name of Jesus”. Isn’t that a call to the children under her supervision to do some late night vandalism in Jesus name?
How ironic, there must be a billion dollars of xtian advertising.
I think Dave got it right.
Great post on Joseph Story, Yahweh. Thruth and Knowledge will deprogram phreedomnotyetfromcult unless of course he is a slow learner like me and in that case I can only offer my best wishes.
Neo: It must take a lot longer to quote Truth or Kowledge than it does quote Myth.
Thanx ants, glad you like Story’s commentary!
Yahweh,
Thanks for the compliment! And I loved the Joseph Story piece as well!
How about a sign that says
If there’s a god, then prove it or shut up and quit giving these people special privileges.
If they’re going to complain, give them something to complain about.
Non,
They wouldn’t even complain if Victoria Secrets advertise their hidden porn, which I personally find it very attractive… OK, as long as the name of Jebus is someplace written on the undergarment.
Remove your crosses and religious BS and we’ll remove our sign.
How soon we will lose religion when it’s not stuffed in your face.
testing
1, 2, 3…
This discussion has really veered off from the original post!
I’m scarcely surprised that the sign met with adversity– I think that might happen almost anywhere in the country. I live in Brookline, MA, which is about as liberal as you can get in the US and I think the sign would still attract some rotten tomatoes. There is, tho, an awesome sign right near Fenway Park which says, “Gun Show! Easily Available! Criminals and Terrorists Welcome!” I’m paraphrasing a little.
The adversity is still showering atheism with free PR. That’s what’s really important. I can easily imagine closet atheists noticing the sign and secretly joining the group, knowing that they are not alone.
Go us!
OT ALERT
Sarah Palin is stepping down as Alaska’s governor. This is the behavior of an unstable politician! Either that or the doors of the baby factory have been pried open. Stay tuned for more of the dysfunctional GOP parade.
she’s pregnant with the So. Carolina Gov’s “luv child”!
DING DONG THE WITCH is GONE
WHICH OL WITCH?
THE WASILI(was silly) WITCH.
DING DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS GONE
Oops. Guess I was doing atheism a disservice when I paid for the baby food items that the food stamps didn’t cover for the lady in front of me in the grocery line last week. Weird thing was, I didn’t think, “I’ll do this because I’m an atheist.” I just saw a need and happened to be able to help out. I apologize to my fellow atheists. Next time, I’ll holler, “Isn’t there a good Christian present to help this woman with her groceries?”
karen:
My most humble of apologies. Let me try that again:
That should make it all better.
There is no institutional level of atheism. If you count organizations, like AA, FFRF, etc., they do charitable work. I have been called by various organized atheists (including bloggers) to give to those needing help. But atheism is more of an individual thing, not so much institutional. And I would bet that every- or just about every- individual atheist is altruistic. There’s always a misanthrope in the mix.
Yeah, an occasional Pol Pot or Joseph Stalin never caused anyone harm…
Or a George Bush.
I was thinking more of Neo, but he doesn’t claim atheism.
Again, Pol Pot and Stalin were motivated by politics, not atheism.
I guess displacing millions of iraqis from their homes and killing 100s of thousands doesn’t register with the xian right. Small wonder that the party of god may not survive it to 2012.