In what appears to be a clip from an old bad movie, a Christian school is expected to suspend a student for attending a dance at ANOTHER school.
The kid is 17, and he wants to go to — get this — attend a prom with his girlfriend. It what will surely be a satanic mix of music, dancing, and perhaps even kissing or holding hands. Whoever heard of such a thing? A High School prom!
But no. Here comes the Heritage Christian School for the Intellectually Stunted Parents and Their Unfortunate Children in Findlay OH. This school prohibits such outrageous behavior, on and off campus! They will suspend this dastardly truant kid if he goes to the prom at the other school.
The boy is going anyway, in satanic satan-ness like the Satan-child that he is, which is like Satan. He will go, and dance, and maybe have a good time that he will remember forever. The horror.
My prediction is the Christian School will not suspend the kid. If they do, they will have to deal with the parents who pay tuition, and don’t want to have their kids’ behavior dictated outside of school. If they don’t they will have to relinquish their attempted idiotic authority of the kids outside of their jurisdiction, which is how it should be.
Ha I wrote the school an email yesterday. They have really dug themselves a deep hole on this one. It is for reasons like this that the American public is finally beginning to see the oppressiveness and idiocy of religious institutions.
And it is absolutely terrible that parents choose to send their children to brainwashing cult organizations like this.
This illustrates what one is likely to smell like after lying down with pigs.
The most ironic bit of this tale is the boy’s stepfather complaining about the Jeebus-brand school enforcing the Jeebus-brand intolerance that the boy was sent there to learn.
I have sympathy for the young man, not as much for the parents.
zeus,
So you fired off an electromagnetic missive, eh, Zeus?
As horrible as this school is, the parents agreed to this when they sent their kid there. The school has every right to rain on this kids parade because their God told them to, we can only hope that the national media attention sends this school’s numbers plunging, and the same for others like it.
These idiot parents signed a form agreeing to the regressive rules of this provate school so they have no right to complain. I hope the kid gets kicked out and it brings attention to the policies of this school. I agree totally with the post above.
I agree…when you enroll in a mental institution, you shouldn’t be shocked when they put you in a straight jacket! If you find the rules, dictated by mindless sheep, prohibitive, then DON”T SIGN UP!!! The reason most people, who think for themselves, don’t enroll thier kids in these brainwashing institutions is just that, BECAUSE THEY THINK FOR THEMSELVES! Many people who send thier kids to these so called “religous schools” do so because they’ve abdicated thier responsibility as a parent. They think the school will do what they are too lazy to do, raise the kid! Once you’ve made the choice to let any institution do your job as a parent, you have no right to balk at the orwellian rules of that institution. I’m sure all the rules and regulations of this school were available for the parents to read, before they enrolled the kid. This sounds like a case of “cafeteria” christians. They want to pick and choose which rules should apply to them and thier kid. Like many Catholics who profess to be “good practicing Catholics” but conveniently choose to ignore the churchs stand on birth control. The child, in this case, is the one who will suffer. He probably had little, if any, choice in what kind of internment camp he was enrolled.
Show me, GS,
Exactly. They agreed to it, oh well.
ShowMe, GS and Mx
Yes they did. But children have rights too. I would love to see the case in a court. Can you imagine the scores of witnesses that would be called to testify about the violation of this school’s rules that occur daily?
Best thing that could happen to the kid. He should get out while he still can.
What-
As much as I’d love to see this school get torn apart with a nationally covered court case, the school should have a right to do all the dumb shit they want- they’re a private school. I can’t see this family winning that kind of case, if private schools can teach that the earth is 6000 years old, they’ll certainly get away with this sort of thing.
ShowMe
I think the kid could win out of court but could also win in court. Not all contracts are legally binding.
“My prediction is the Christian School will not suspend the kid. If they do, they will have to deal with the parents who pay tuition, and don’t want to have their kids’ behavior dictated outside of school. If they don’t they will have to relinquish their attempted idiotic authority of the kids outside of their jurisdiction, which is how it should be.”
Isn’t the free market wonderful? A parent doesn’t like the way the school is being run, so they can take their business else where.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all parents had such authority over the schools their kids attend and not be the powerless prisoners of an all powerful government bureaucracy?
geoih says:
No. That would be a social nightmare.
I can’t think think where you got your notion that all parents are omniscient and omnibenevolent. They clearly are not. Many, if not most, parents would chooze schools that indoctrinated their children the way the parents want them indoctrinated, not give them a decent education.
Without government standards, every child would be helpless, completely at the mercy of abusive and neglectful parents.
And what magic is it that gives the government omniscience and omnibenevolence? The government is nothing but the same flawed people (i.e., parents) you’re so afraid of exercising control over their own families. There is no magic in government or government “standards”, nor in the people that invent them.
If parents are completely abusive and neglectful, then why do we even allow these people to procreate? We should save a step and simply screen all people prior to puberty and simply sterilize those we don’t think will be good parents. Then we’ll be assured of both good parents and good children.
The only problem with baptists is they don’t keep them under water long enough
Or maybe too long. That can cause brain damage.
This is a religious school.
Control is the goal of religious dogma. Going to a religious school and agreeing to their rules is the same as becoming a member of a church. Your life in and out of the church is scrutinized and your behavior must conform to the tenets of the religion. If the parents disagree with the rules of this school then what were they thinking when they put their child in such an institution. Perhaps like many people they believe rules are for breaking or did not actually believe such ignorant rules would be enforced. Maybe the parents did not read the rules and just thought they were doing the right thing.
Perhaps the school should be clearer in defining how serious they are of the rules when signing up a student. They might get a few less students, but the students they do get will be more mind-numbed and less likely to rock the boat.
Well, I haven’t heard all the details of their policies yet. If there is nothing in the contract that states anything about attending outside events on the student’s own time, then yes, they may have a case. But, if they have a policy in place, the parents and kid may be screwed if he gets suspended.
As ignorant and backassed the school may be, the parents should have known going in how they operated. I suspect this is a case of not completely studying all the policies of the school before sending him there, and now they’re back-peddling.
Geoih
Rip Van Winkle much?
I’m afraid I don’t get your point. The free market is as effective as it ever was at assuring liberty and freedom, no matter the resurgence of the church of socialism.
As ineffective as it ever was.
Party A contractually agrees with Party B to limit the rights of Party C. This type of contract between adults would not stand. Although C is a child there are limits to the rights of Party A as a parent.
This is true, but where to draw the line.
In a purely theoretical case, neither a parent nor a child would have any obligation to the other. If children have a right to do as they please (e.g., go to a prom, not go to a particular school, etc.), don’t parents have the right to not feed or shelter their children? To endorse anything else is to advocate slavery of one person to the other.
However, we don’t live in theory, and there are many biological facts that come into play (e.g., infant humans are incapable of providing for themselves). That’s why we have parents. So, where do you draw the line on where the parent has power and where the child has power? You can state positions based on culture or politics or whatever, but it’s all opinion, and ‘concensus’ opinions (e.g., government) have no more legitimacy than those of individuals.
What there are plenty of Parents out there who don’t let their kids go to prom or even have a girlfriend/boyfriend. To my knowledge, they can do this legally and nobody would ever win a court case against them. This is essentially the same thing, just with a middleman involved.
I feel sorry for the children of those parents. I truly do, what a horrible way to be brought up. I mean chaperoned dating until a certain age is fine but no dating and no dancing. Is this Iran or something?
H.L. Mencken wrote: A Sunday school is a prison in which children do penance for the evil conscience of their parents.
While these parents are neither evil nor totally to blame, this religious nonsense has its roots in the senseless guilt nearly all humans have been conditioned to feel regarding sexual activity.
Dancing and holding hands is just so disgusting, I cannot not bear to discuss it further.
ShowMe
But what if the parents, as in this particular case, do object to this schools limiting of their child’s behavior?
It certainly makes it a bit more fuzzy, but I would think any good judge would realize it’s the same thing. The parents made the kid go to this fine institution of sinless creatures, therefore they are making him follow the school’s rules. I don’t have a law degree here, I just have to side with the school on this assuming that it was in writing somewhere that school rules applied outside of the school.
School rules never apply outside of school even if it’s in writing. That’s lunacy. That would mean I can’t wear my ball cap outside of school either.
The courts and the law give much deference to parents with regard to limiting a child’s behavior. The parent-child relationship is a privileged one under the law. But in this case it is not the parents that are limiting the behavior. Nor, in this case, is the school acting as a proxy for the parent. I doubt that the courts would be quick to extend such privileges to the school-child relationship regardless of contracts signed.
Baptists don’t make love standing up – because someone might think they are dancing!
Dave,
just had a post crash my website location, which reset all my settings on this site. Sigh!!!
NeoWolfe
Dave, I hate writing this twice:
“My prediction is the Christian School will not suspend the kid. If they do, they will have to deal with the parents who pay tuition, and don’t want to have their kids’ behavior dictated outside of school. If they don’t they will have to relinquish their attempted idiotic authority of the kids outside of their jurisdiction, which is how it should be”
Abbreviated: You cannot touch a paroquial school policy unless it violates federal law. You cannot eject a student for “race, creed, color….and sexual preference”. The student would be better off claiming gay discrimination than violation of school policy.
You said:
“If they don’t they will have to relinquish their attempted idiotic authority of the kids outside of their jurisdiction, which is how it should be.”
Nice anger, and justified, by “authority outside their jurisdiction”, but we all lost that during the Reagan administration when you can take a bong hit on Friday night, and get fired for it on Monday. It’s a new world.
NeoWolfe
There is a lot of crazy stuff like this going on in our school system. I read recently of one public school principle that is still paddling his students and he points to the lower number of incidents of misbehavior as an indication that it’s working.
Of course it’s working, you beat any kid and he will behave but that doesn’t mean that it’s good for the kid. How about firing the guy and finding someone that can do the job right instead.