Comments on: I Will Pray For You http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you A Blog of Atheist Thought Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:59:40 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sgrill http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-101069 sgrill Sat, 16 May 2009 03:28:25 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-101069 When someone says they will pray for me, I take it that they are just wishing me their best in the way they think (of course it is a weird idea to me). Everyone I know, knows my beliefs and realize I don't think their prayers have any magical power over me. However, if I am going through something difficult, it is nice to know people are thinking about me and wishing me the best. I think there is some psychological benefit to it (placebo effect). I am in a family with varying degrees of religious belief. When everyone says they are praying for someone who is going through difficult time, I tell the person, I am thinking about them and if there were a god, it would accept my thoughts as prayers. We are trying to support each other and I think me offering my thoughts offers some psychological support to the person. I don't think we benefit from being in the face of people we love when they need support. That is one reason when I ordered solstice cards a few years ago from American Atheists, I did not send them out. The message on the back about the mythical god is IMO inappropriate when sending friends holiday wishes. There is a time for discussion and debate. Sending a card during the Christmas season to friends and pointing out that their beliefs are silly, is a way to lose friends. I think we need to lighten up sometimes. When someone says they will pray for me, I take it that they are just wishing me their best in the way they think (of course it is a weird idea to me). Everyone I know, knows my beliefs and realize I don’t think their prayers have any magical power over me. However, if I am going through something difficult, it is nice to know people are thinking about me and wishing me the best. I think there is some psychological benefit to it (placebo effect). I am in a family with varying degrees of religious belief. When everyone says they are praying for someone who is going through difficult time, I tell the person, I am thinking about them and if there were a god, it would accept my thoughts as prayers. We are trying to support each other and I think me offering my thoughts offers some psychological support to the person. I don’t think we benefit from being in the face of people we love when they need support. That is one reason when I ordered solstice cards a few years ago from American Atheists, I did not send them out. The message on the back about the mythical god is IMO inappropriate when sending friends holiday wishes. There is a time for discussion and debate. Sending a card during the Christmas season to friends and pointing out that their beliefs are silly, is a way to lose friends. I think we need to lighten up sometimes.

]]> By: leisuresuitbruce http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100872 leisuresuitbruce Tue, 12 May 2009 17:42:21 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100872 "I will pray for you" is theist for "fuck you". “I will pray for you” is theist for “fuck you”.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100787 what Mon, 11 May 2009 05:44:31 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100787 Atheist: I am an Atheist. Theist: I will pray for you. Atheist: I guess that's better than preying upon me. Atheist: I am an Atheist.

Theist: I will pray for you.

Atheist: I guess that’s better than preying upon me.

]]> By: Krystalline Apostate http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100784 Krystalline Apostate Mon, 11 May 2009 05:19:24 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100784 reason: <blockquote>what the hell was a central american doing helping you at the polls.</blockquote> A. Wasn't working @ the polls, & B. He was a US citizen. reason:

what the hell was a central american doing helping you at the polls.

A. Wasn’t working @ the polls, &
B. He was a US citizen.

]]> By: Asemodeus http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100777 Asemodeus Mon, 11 May 2009 03:09:57 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100777 I always thought that the reason why the devil was allowed to continue to exist was that he made too good of a scapegoat. Without him around the church would actually have to look inward, which is definitely something they wanted to avoid at all costs. Plus you know, it is mighty effective at scaring children, which is always a plus when it comes to religion. I always thought that the reason why the devil was allowed to continue to exist was that he made too good of a scapegoat. Without him around the church would actually have to look inward, which is definitely something they wanted to avoid at all costs.

Plus you know, it is mighty effective at scaring children, which is always a plus when it comes to religion.

]]> By: neowolfe http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100770 neowolfe Mon, 11 May 2009 00:38:13 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100770 Phreedumb quoted me then said: Your god is really the devil, they are both the same imaginary person, and I can use history and your bible to prove it. OK…please do dw got interested and said: "I too would like to hear this. I have my own thoughts on this as well." It's really not so complicated. God creates angels. God is perfect therefore all his creations are perfect. Theists will argue that god gave them free will, but, how does a perfect creature make an imperfect decision? He loves and admires himself and covets god's throne, more than he desires god's intended plan. Okay, he deceived Eve, who deceived him? Serious hardwire issues. He thinks he can replace god? Does he think he can kill god? LOL. Take over the territory? Perfection my ass. The only explanation for Satan is an intentional antagonist on which you could blame all suffering. Unfortunately that angel was the creation of the perfect god. Can I rest my case now? I can go on in much more detail about Yahweh the Murdering Monster. NeoWolfe Phreedumb quoted me then said:

Your god is really the devil, they are both the same imaginary person, and I can use history and your bible to prove it.

OK…please do

dw got interested and said:

“I too would like to hear this. I have my own thoughts on this as well.”

It’s really not so complicated. God creates angels. God is perfect therefore all his creations are perfect. Theists will argue that god gave them free will, but, how does a perfect creature make an imperfect decision? He loves and admires himself and covets god’s throne, more than he desires god’s intended plan. Okay, he deceived Eve, who deceived him? Serious hardwire issues. He thinks he can replace god? Does he think he can kill god? LOL. Take over the territory? Perfection my ass.

The only explanation for Satan is an intentional antagonist on which you could blame all suffering. Unfortunately that angel was the creation of the perfect god.

Can I rest my case now? I can go on in much more detail about Yahweh the Murdering Monster.

NeoWolfe

]]> By: Charlie http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100768 Charlie Sun, 10 May 2009 21:04:30 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100768 eat shit fuck sleep....gobble nipple chew eat shit fuck sleep….gobble nipple chew

]]> By: NotSoFast http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100762 NotSoFast Sun, 10 May 2009 17:28:36 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100762 "Thus sayeth the Lord"... "Thus sayeth Yahweh".... Yes, just as you both sayed. “Thus sayeth the Lord”… “Thus sayeth Yahweh”….

Yes, just as you both sayed.

]]> By: Show Me Some PROOF http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100761 Show Me Some PROOF Sun, 10 May 2009 17:25:39 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100761 neowolfe says: May 9, 2009 at 5:59 pm Your god is really the devil, they are both the same imaginary person, and I can use history and your bible to prove it. I cannot conceive a way to go about proving such a thing with the use of the Bible, but I have always maintained that Christianity has at least 4 gods, and probably 5 or more with the way that Catholics treat Mary. The trinity has always been a convenient cover for polytheism, but it is really no different. The devil must be a god as well, or else how would he have any power to corrupt in the face of the three other Gods in heaven. We could also make the argument that, with the current state of the world and all the times God had to spread his wrath on earth, that Satan is more powerful and been winning the war of good and evil. Keep up the good work gods. neowolfe says:
May 9, 2009 at 5:59 pm

Your god is really the devil, they are both the same imaginary person, and I can use history and your bible to prove it.

I cannot conceive a way to go about proving such a thing with the use of the Bible, but I have always maintained that Christianity has at least 4 gods, and probably 5 or more with the way that Catholics treat Mary. The trinity has always been a convenient cover for polytheism, but it is really no different. The devil must be a god as well, or else how would he have any power to corrupt in the face of the three other Gods in heaven. We could also make the argument that, with the current state of the world and all the times God had to spread his wrath on earth, that Satan is more powerful and been winning the war of good and evil.

Keep up the good work gods.

]]> By: Yahweh http://atheists.org/blog/2009/05/07/i-will-pray-for-you/comment-page-2#comment-100759 Yahweh Sun, 10 May 2009 15:33:24 +0000 http://atheists.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-100759 "Si, por supesto…m/m/i" = "yes, of course, me/myself/I" “Si, por supesto…m/m/i” =

“yes, of course, me/myself/I”

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