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A Different Kind of Separation

Today’s post is about the separation of church and football. It’s Superbowl Sunday — everything is about football.Today’s question: who does God want to win? Let’s find out together by counting how many players mention, point, or otherwise refer to a deity during the game. In fact, let’s make it a drinking game! Post a comment when you hear one and of course, the post-game interviews count!Enjoy the game.

44 Responses to “A Different Kind of Separation”

  1.  godless sodomite says:

    Superbowl Sunday? who cares?

  2.  atheistmike says:

    Sorry – I was in junior high during the first super(stupid) bowl, and I have NEVER watched even a little of ANY of the games.

    We have to go deal with my mother in law’s leukemia.

  3.  karen says:

    Since this is a STEELER Superbowl, today is a High Holy Day!

    The religious are whining about a Pro-life ad that was nixed by NBC. Boo. Fucking. Hoo. And churches are warning their members that some ads may be too unsettling for “family consumption”. I guess during the commercials, all the church-sponsored superbowl parties will play quick games of Bible trivia or something: Who got drunk and had sex with his daughters? Who offered his daughter and concubine to be raped by a group of strangers? How did Adam and Eve’s kids procreate without committing incest? Which Psalm says to bash babies’ heads on rocks? Who was going to slash his kid’s throat because god told him to?
    That’s some good wholesome fun, there! Maybe Budweiser should make an ad about two daughters who keep giving Daddy Bud till he can’t see straight, then have their way with him!

  4.  karen says:

    atheistmike

    Sorry about your mother-in-law. I hope she gets the best medical treatment possible.

  5.  lilith says:

    LOL!!! Bible-based Superbowl ads…Religious wackos can get ideas from this wonderful children’s illustrated Bible by Paul Farrell…(Warning: adult content):

    http://tinyurl.com/agsmrt

  6. Tim Ren says:

    The Superbowl is the one NFL game I do watch each year. I have gotten into college ball a little since moving to the midwest. Anyone who has ever met a Nebraskan, knows that the Huskers are a religion unto themselves.

    I will be rooting for the Cardinals. (Sorry Karen) Not only do I like an underdog, but Pat Tillman was on the Cardinals and that’s reason enough for me.

    I just hope I have enough beer. The aftergame comments are liable to be telling :-)

  7.  karen says:

    Ren

    I will be rooting for the Cardinals.

    You will be forgiven…someday. ;-)

    I understand about the Tillman thing, but Kurt Warner more than cancels that out. Though, if the Cards were playing any other team, I might root for them as the underdog.

    ‘Course, we’ve got Troy P., who crosses himself before and after every play. (But he’s so pretty! and damn good at his game.)

    Go Stillers!

  8. Tim Ren says:

    Karen,

    ‘Course, we’ve got Troy P., who crosses himself before and after every play.

    Oh Christ! I’m going to be ‘pissed’ before half-time. Better run and get some more beer. Please go ahead and disregard anything I post after the game, now. Thanks. You betcha’.

  9.  godless sodomite says:

    Why do you breeders get so excited over ritualised combat, albeit with strong homoerotic overtones? I just dont get the appeal of sports at all.

  10.  lilith says:

    I don’t watch it…I’d rather watch the Duggar’s in-breeding show…Lead Son is gettin’ hitched at age 20 to another Quiverfull nutcase…A Very Duggar Wedding….Ma Duggar is making her tater-tot casserole….This show merits an atheist commentary on the weird habits of savage Christian breeders locked in Arkansas…ROTFLMAO!

  11.  neowolfe says:

    It really is interesting to watch. Three years ago Nascar winners like Mark Martin, Jeff Gordon, and Dale Jarrett, the first remark out of their mouths when they were interviewed was to thank the good lord. Like god loves me more today? (Chuckle) Can I get a witness here that the good lord doesn’t care who wins for the last three years. I think Nascar figured out that those comments were offending more than those it was endearing, and without making a public policy change, gagged the god boys. Now, we just need to stifle the invocations and we can have sports event free of Christianity.

    The trend is unmistakeable. We, as a society, are moving away from the idea that this is a christian nation, and from the idea that a god oversees the outcome of everything.

    NeoWolfe

  12.  godless sodomite says:

    I’d rather watch the Duggar’s in-breeding show…Lead Son is gettin’ hitched at age 20 to another Quiverfull nutcase…

    Is it just me or does eldest duggar son josh seem a little, how shall I say it, light on his feet? Can you imagine if he does turn out to be gay how his godbot wife (with whom he had never kissed or held hands before their wedding night!) and his born again bunch would deal with it? given that Ma duggar has expelled eighteen children from her car clown of a vagina it is a statistical certainty that they will have at least two gay kids and maybe more since there is a correlation between having multiple older brothers and being gay.

    http://www.duggarfamily.com/

    http://health.discovery.com/tv/duggars/duggars.html

  13.  neowolfe says:

    godless said:

    “Ma duggar has expelled eighteen children from her car clown of a vagina”

    That was hillarious. I nearly split a gut. A point made with humor is perhaps the most powerful kind.

    NeoWolfe

  14.  neowolfe says:

    ren said,

    “I just hope I have enough beer.”

    I hope I don’t have too much. I gotta work tomorrow, why don’t they do this on Saturday and give us a day to get right again?

    NeoWolfe

  15.  godless sodomite says:

    It should have read “clown car” and not the other way round but you got the point.
    I swear I must be dyslexic.

  16.  jcc says:

    karen:

    The religious are whining about a Pro-life ad that was nixed by NBC. Boo. Fucking. Hoo.

    That’s karen, never too ashamed to show her classy side…

    …church-sponsored superbowl parties will play quick games of Bible trivia or something: Who got drunk and had sex with his daughters?…..

    It never ceases to amaze me how you have a mind like a steel trap for things you abhor about the Bible (like how you erroneously think it somehow glorifies those people and incidents) but curiously suffer from selective memory lapses like how the lap-dog, drive-by media slobbered all over the Clintons and didn’t go near their darling little Chelsea — just because they told them not to.

  17.  autodidacticus says:

    I dunno. Who will be celebrating Darwin’s 200th birthday on Feb 12?

  18. David Silverman dsilverman says:

    Bruce is god.

  19.  what says:

    Godless

    Why do you breeders get so excited over ritualised combat, albeit with strong homoerotic overtones? I just dont get the appeal of sports at all.

    Well I understand the sentiment with respect to football. I feel guilty cheering and jeering players onto a plethora of central nervous system and musculoskeletal problems. So I took my son and daughter for a hike on Angel Island today. It was great! Not many breeders or non-breeders in sight.

  20.  godless sodomite says:

    So I took my son and daughter for a hike on Angel Island today.

    I miss that my brother no longer lives in San Francisco. Hes teaching at IU in Bloomington now-ugh.

  21.  pixel says:

    Alex-

    there is a correlation between having multiple older brothers and being gay.

    My son was telling me about this – interesting! I’ve got to read your link when I have more time.

  22.  NotSoFast says:

    That’s one I hadn’t heard before. It’s old news that aunts of gay men tend to have more children. That hints at a gene that specifically enhances attraction for men, and may be one way homosexuality beats natural selection.

  23.  karen says:

    Woot! What a game! The second half was a bail-biter. I’m worn out!

    jcc

    That’s karen, never too ashamed to show her classy side…

    Damn skippy.

    It never ceases to amaze me how you have a mind like a steel trap for things you abhor about the Bible (like how you erroneously think it somehow glorifies those people and incidents) but curiously suffer from selective memory lapses like how the lap-dog, drive-by media slobbered all over the Clintons and didn’t go near their darling little Chelsea — just because they told them not to.

    Maybe you should try having an ECT treatment or eighteen, like I did, and see how your memory holds up. Or having multiple personalities that cause blackouts for seconds or years. The only way I ever know what I’ve done or said during those blackouts is if someone witnesses them and fills me in on the details. Then I just have to take them at their word, for I still have no recollection.

    But then, you’re not so good at walking in another’s moccasins. Now that’s classy, god-boy.

  24.  godless sodomite says:

    But then, you’re not so good at walking in another’s moccasins. Now that’s classy, god-boy.

    Compassion is not a word that I could use to describe very many of the religious people that I know.

  25.  what says:

    Godless

    I miss that my brother no longer lives in San Francisco.

    Great day! 66 F, nice breeze. My first time out there. Will be returning and maybe camping.

    Hes teaching at IU in Bloomington now-ugh.

    What’s his field?

  26.  corey says:

    What does anyone expect from a group of men who, for a living, wear tights, throw a ball and bang into each other while getting an underserviced outlandish amount of money, which they most-likely do not give much of, to help others, (they need their gold necklaces, cars, boats, etc) while thanking a “god” when they win, feeling their god is granting them his presence and intervention, yet when they lose, this same god has turned his back on them, for something “wrong” they must have done?

    Talk about self-involved and narcissistic!

    Sad thing, the more “animalistic” a human is, the more religious he becomes, when in the animal world, animals do not seem to be digressing into a blind hope that someone is there to “take care of them”.

    I think “man” can learn a lot from their animal counterparts, the very ones they believe they are more superior too.

  27.  joelwe says:

    Anyone who could care less if NFL players make god displays in a game needs to upgrade their own priorities.

  28.  jcc says:

    karen:

    Maybe you should try having an ECT treatment or eighteen, like I did, and see how your memory holds up…

    Hey, karen; it’s me, jcc, remember? You don’t have to rehash all that for me… and besides, you perfectly illustrated my point. You might want to be a little more judicious in how you use that shortcoming around here from now on — it’s starting to get a little transparent. I have no doubt that you have brief episodes of black-out, but ones that last eight years??? Don’t try to tell me your memory is shot, then rattle-off your extensive list of theistic grievances; it’s starting to get a little old.

    But then, you’re not so good at walking in another’s moccasins.

    Hey, I may not give as much as I should, but I give compassion where compassion is due.

    Now that’s classy, god-boy.

    Thanks! (but, “child of God” would be more accurate).

  29.  karen says:

    jcc

    Hey, karen; it’s me, jcc, remember?

    Remember what? I remember that you’re the one who’s so gung ho about eyewitness testimony, yet here you are accusing me of lying about my own memory.

    Don’t try to tell me your memory is shot, then rattle-off your extensive list of theistic grievances; it’s starting to get a little old.

    Hey, genius, the theistic grievances are fresh because they’re a constant. And they are something I have been reading about from others for the last several years on this and other blogs. So they’re reinforced on a continuing basis.

    Right now, I can clearly and vividly recall the birth of my first child. The other two, I can’t remember, except a vague detail about each which had little to do with the actual births. You’d think I’d remember that. If I sat and dwelled on it, looked at photos and had someone else recount their version, I might be able to remember parts of it later. But right now, as hard as I think, I get nothing.

    Sorry if that’s old news. I understand that you can’t relate to what’s going on-or not- in my head; not many people can. I’m glad you give compassion where it’s due. Wouldn’t want anyone getting any they didn’t truly deserve. I imagine you don’t give seconds to the hungry because their hunger issue is just getting so…old. Good thing you’ve got that Jesus guy to make you a decent person; hate to think what you’d be like without him.

  30. Tim Ren says:

    Dave,

    What a sorry drinking game. Surely, I thought, I would tie one on watching this orgy of religious display. Truth is, I had barely drank half a beer by the end of the first quarter. I saw, maybe four or five individuals cross their hearts. That’s it. No pointing at the sky :-( No gross displays of grattitude for God given talent :-( Barely a chance to drink at all.

    By the end of the game, I had resorted to drinking because of Hail-Mary plays. I even drank the last half of my first beer, because I thought I saw a prayer circle on the sidelines. Turned out it was just a defensive huddle. MADDEN!!!!!!! Oh well. Can’t put beer back in the glass. At least, not in a socially acceptable manner.

    I don’t know which makes me happier: The fact I still have the better part of a six pack left, or that the Super Bowl wasn’t the blatant religious display some of us thought it might be? Did anyone else notice something I missed? Oh yeah, and great game! Real nail-biter.

  31.  godlessmike says:

    Looks like Kurt Warner got nothing for kissing the ass of jesus. But I’m sure he’ll continue to be a slave to dogma…

  32.  karen says:

    Ren

    You’d have had a better drinking game if you had gone with the penalty flags version! The godbots were pretty quiet during last night’s game. But I was too wrapped up in the play most of the time to remember to notice, to tell the truth. Even the post-game interviews were mostly secular. Mike Tomlin said he was the most blessed coach, but didn’t say by what or whom. Roethlisberger, who gave god a nod at the end of the playoff game, made no such mention last night.

    Now, come away from the dark side and join the Steeler Nation! :-D

  33. Tim Ren says:

    Karen,

    I would have had a better drinking game if I had just gone with the personal fouls. Nothing against the Steelers, I just thought it might be a blowout and wanted a good game. Sure got it, didn’t we?

    If I had to pick a NFL team as my favorite, I guess It would be Kansas City. But hey, give me a break. At least it’s not the Lions.

  34.  quantum_flux says:

    I saw so many damned Steelers praying. There should be a separation of football and religion. The ref should throw the yellow flag everytime a player is seen doing a religious quake-n-flake or whatever, perhaps it should be viewed as just another form of unsportsman like conduct. I wish there were also a yellow flag for politics too, whereby saying God counts as a loss of 1000 votes off of the final score.

  35.  jcc says:

    karen:

    here you are accusing me of lying about my own memory.

    I didn’t accuse you of lying about it. I was just pointing out the inconsistency in how it serves you for making arguments here.

    the theistic grievances are fresh because they’re a constant

    …that your memory seems to consistently serve you with…

    And they are something I have been reading about from others for the last several years on this and other blogs. So they’re reinforced on a continuing basis

    …yet you always seem to have trouble remembering all the times I’ve had to correct you about them… Interesting how I can affect your selective memory.

    I imagine you don’t give seconds to the hungry because their hunger issue is just getting so…old.

    My, my; we’re soooo testy — and even after your team won… Sorry this hit such a nerve, but I believe it’s not the first time I’ve done that. ;)

    Good thing you’ve got that Jesus guy to make you a decent person; hate to think what you’d be like without him.

    Yeah, I bet He’d make the same difference in you too.

  36.  mxracer652 says:

    Yeah, I bet He’d make the same difference in you too.

    Sexual innuendo isn’t tolerated here jcc.

    Karen!! Go Steelers!!!

  37.  karen says:

    Ren

    I wouldn’t have minded a Steeler blowout, but I didn’t really expect one, even though they were the favorite. We had a season full of come-from-behind games, and a couple where we managed to snare defeat from the jaws of victory. The drama made for a really good game. A close win after an exchange of leads is always more interesting than a blowout.

    KC is fine; just stay away from the Raiders and the Redskins. And Cleveland. ;-)

    mxracer652

    Superbowl Number 6!!!! Booyah! I don’t know whether to retire my Terrible Towel, which has seen me through the latest 2 Steeler Superbowls, or to keep on using it for good luck. Not that I’m superstitious, or anything.

  38.  DD Dropout says:

    jcc claims to be a son of god. Wow.

    I always wondered if his nick was significant wrt J.C. Now we know. It turns out he thinks he is jesus christ’s child.

    I have faith that this is true and no evidence can sway me. Bow down and worship him. He is the second coming of jesus.

  39.  neowolfe says:

    Dropout said,

    “I have faith that this is true and no evidence can sway me. Bow down and worship him. He is the second coming of jesus.”

    You may be right, but I think doubt can be established based on the Bible stories where Jesus actually responded to questions instead of handing out accusations. He cannot defend his insanity, so he tries to cast shadows on reason. Pathetic.

    NeoWolfe

  40.  Necrosis says:

    godless – “Why do you breeders get so excited over ritualised combat, albeit with strong homoerotic overtones? I just dont get the appeal of sports at all.”

    That’s funny to hear someone else say that. I’ve never had much interest in sports, and was often called a fag as a kid because of that. I always had to laugh, though, because I saw the irony in being called that by people who were fascinated with watching grown men huddle up together, pat each other’s butts, chase each other around a field and pull each other to the ground, and pile up on top of each other.

    Now if sporting events involved naked women chasing each other around, I might be a fan. Yeah, I know, I’m a pig. Oink.

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