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Einstein Proven Correct.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/sc_afp/sciencephysicseinstein_081120235605PARIS (AFP) ? It’s taken more than a century, but Einstein’s celebrated formula e=mc2 has finally been corroborated, thanks to a heroic computational effort by French, German and Hungarian physicists.A brainpower consortium led by Laurent Lellouch of France’s Centre for Theoretical Physics, using some of the world’s mightiest supercomputers, have set down the calculations for estimating the mass of protons and neutrons, the particles at the nucleus of atoms.According to the conventional model of particle physics, protons and neutrons comprise smaller particles known as quarks, which in turn are bound by gluons.The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?

77 Responses to “Einstein Proven Correct.”

  1. avatar Tuen says:

    Fuckin A, I’m on a roll (blowin off steam and OT again, sorry Dave)

    ….the human species is the only animal that is aware of death. What could be worse than knowing that you and all of your loved ones will be vaporized into the drudge of nothingness?

    Well, we devised a delusional concept to remedy this horror so well and so early on in our evolution that it became a neurological part of our brain. That’s why even reasonably well-educated people still accommodate supernatural religiosity in modern life.

    If this, still theoretical, cognitive instinct is ultimately suppositional; perhaps it’s as simple as certain individuals among us having the courage to accept our true immortality.

  2. avatar Tuen says:

    correction:!!!
    our true mortality

  3. avatar atheiststatic says:

    What

    Here is an article I found on heat energy. can you take a look at it and tell me your thoughts on it? Much appreciated. Also, if you could please, could you go into a more detailed explanation of heat?

    http://www.powermasters.com/heat_energy.html

  4. avatar ga4ry says:

    This is off topic 100% but I wanted to thank anyone who responded to my plea about writing to my little newspaper.
    You might remember the paper did not print my letter on how to report the LDS church to the IRS.
    Well, after almost two weeks the letter was published. Thank you

  5. avatar cry4turtles says:

    All this talk about heat is making me HOT!!!!

  6. avatar cry4turtles says:

    Oh yeah, I’m sitting next to the woodburner. Doh!

  7. avatar 666 says:

    NSF,
    This:

    Here’s an experiment for you: Stop ingesting any matter and let us know how much energy you have!

    was meant as a joke which you apparently didn’t get.

    This:

    Here’s one for you: Start ingesting matter, and let us know how much less matter you have!

    is just a demonstration of stupidity.

    Look at the equation. E=mc^2. There is a relationship indicated by the = sign. What do you think E stands for, what do you think m stands for?

    The scientists involved (Einstein, et al summed it up by saying: The e=mc2 formula shows that mass can be converted into energy, and energy can be converted into mass.

    Don’t like it? Take it up with them.

    BTW, having taught classes in atomic theory in regards to electronics (protons, neutrons, electrons – levels of energy), I do understand the laws of conservation of energy/matter. They are not broken when energy is released from matter. If you didn’t get that in your studies, you wasted your time.

  8. avatar NotSoFast says:

    666

    NSF,
    This:

    Here’s an experiment for you: Stop ingesting any matter and let us know how much energy you have!

    was meant as a joke which you apparently didn’t get.

    This:

    Here’s one for you: Start ingesting matter, and let us know how much less matter you have!

    is just a demonstration of stupidity.

    I can only assume that this is another joke I don’t get.

    Look at the equation. E=mc^2. There is a relationship indicated by the = sign. What do you think E stands for, what do you think m stands for?

    The scientists involved (Einstein, et al summed it up by saying: The e=mc2 formula shows that mass can be converted into energy, and energy can be converted into mass.

    Don’t like it? Take it up with them.

    What does any of this have to do with your notion that your stomach is a nuclear reactor?

    BTW, having taught classes in atomic theory, I do understand the laws of conservation of energy/matter. They are not broken when energy is released from matter.If you didn’t get that in your studies, you wasted your time.

    Was this also a joke:

    Do I get to exercise (burn matter by converting it into energy)? Consider how much matter Michael Phelps (Olympic swimmer) ingests – if he didn’t convert that matter into energy, he’d probably weigh as much as the rest of the team put together!

    If not, my condolences to your students.

  9. avatar 666 says:

    NSF
    Man you appear to be denser than a black hole!

    What does any of this have to do with your notion that your stomach is a nuclear reactor?

    My notion? that a stomach is a nuclear reactor? You appear to be hallucinating words on the screen which I never said. I don’t know where to get those kind of drugs. Wanna share?

  10. avatar NotSoFast says:

    666

    You appear to be hallucinating words on the screen which I never said.

    Do I get to exercise (burn matter by converting it into energy)? Consider how much matter Michael Phelps (Olympic swimmer) ingests – if he didn’t convert that matter into energy, he’d probably weigh as much as the rest of the team put together!

    Your post in this thread, 11/21/08 @ 17:04

  11. avatar 666 says:

    You don’t think food is matter capable of being converted to energy?

  12. avatar NotSoFast says:

    666

    I repeat: I’ve had enuff of this! What is the competent physicist and chemist here; I’ll leave him to straighten you out, if he “picks and choses” to do so.

  13. avatar CascadiaEventHorizon says:

    I would actually hope that someone would spend a little more time researching Neutrinos.(just saying)

  14. avatar drchris06 says:

    I’m a bit late here but I have a PhD in chemistry and have been teaching it for 10 years.

    When plants do photosynthesis, they take in CO2 and water from the air (and light) and make glucose and oxygen:

    6 CO2 + 6 H2O + energy (light) –>
    C6H12O6 + 6 O2

    If you’ve taken basic chemistry you’ll notice that the numbers of each atoms on either side of the arrow are the same (6 C’s, 12 H’s, 18 O’s) – no atoms were made or destroyed. So how is the “energy” involved?

    It HAS been converted into mass! (E = mc2) The total mass of the products (glucose and O2) will be SLIGHTLY (in the part-per-trillion range) greater than the mass of the original molecules (CO2 and H2O), since some extra energy was added.

    For normal chemical reactions like photosynthesis (or the burning of gasoline, the explosion of TNT, etc) these mass changes are way too small to be measurable. However, for nuclear reactions (like radioactive decay or nuclear fission) the differences are much larger (on the order of 1%) and the amount of energy released and the change in mass in the reaction correlates perfectly to E = mc2.

    But it’s not easy to get my freshman students to understand and/or appreciate this non-intuitive story.

    cjn

  15. avatar drchris06 says:

    PS

    By the way the Star Trek food replicator does not convert energy to mass. There is a source of raw material (an organic sludge) that the replicator uses as a source for the food and dishes that it makes. And the Enterprise crew’s “waste products” are recycled back into the sludge using similar technology to the replicator. Please consult the “Star Trek: The Next Generation” technical manual for more details.

  16. avatar NotSoFast says:

    drchris06

    Thanks.

    That’s what I’ve suspected for many years, from my (very casual) readings in modern physics. When I was in school, it was not even suspected, on the undergraduate level anyway, that chemical energy had anything at all to do with nuclear energy.

    What do your freshman students find non-intuitive in this?

  17. avatar drchris06 says:

    The freshman don’t like this apparent violation of the law of conservation of matter – they’ve had that law drilled into them so much it’s almost “gospel” :)

    What we should really quote is the law of conservation of mass-energy (since they are inter-convertible)

    cjn

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