Frustrated by the failure to overturn Roe v. Wade, a growing number of antiabortion pastors, conservative academics and activists are setting aside efforts to outlaw abortion and instead are focusing on building social programs and developing other assistance for pregnant women to reduce the number of abortions.Some of the activists are actually working with abortion rights advocates to push for legislation in Congress that would provide pregnant women with health care, child care and money for education — services that could encourage them to continue their pregnancies.Their efforts, they said, reflect the political reality that legal challenges to abortion rights will not be successful, especially after Barack Obama’s victory this month in the presidential election and the defeat of several ballot measures that would have restricted access to abortions. Although the activists insist that they are not retreating from their belief that abortion is immoral and should be outlawed, they argue that a more practical alternative is to try to reduce abortions through other means
On their way to this inevitable conclusion they “sold their souls” to BushCo for the chance of appointing a couple of anti-choice supremes. But what did they get instead? They got pro-corporate anti-regulating supremes. Used again. When will they learn. They got nothing but a lower standard of living out of the bargain. No wonder there is a war breaking out between social conservatives and corporate conservatives. The corporates used and abused the socials. And all they had to due to hook the socials was pay lips service to their religious fantasies. What did P.T. Barnum say?
Well I guess later is better than never. I hope they realize that their “just say no” strategy to social problems is grossly ineffective as well.
OT ALERT
From The Colorado Independent
Evangelicals will be amongst the hardest hit by the economic downturn. So you you can expect those funds to these whack-job organizations to dry up and blow away in the wind. Poof.
Yes, it’s a day to celebrate…maybe you can have some “fetal bites” for desert…
http://tinyurl.com/5amogu
We’ve lost over 50 million fellow Americans through what’s known as “choice”…
With the “messiah’s” passion to let newborn babies die on the table after they’ve survived a botchced abortion, I know many will sleep better…
(Lordy, this phucker is tiresome. I guess he’s both unemployed and mental, eh?)
I’m happy to see some pragmatism coming from the anti-abortion camp. I’d like to see the number of abortions reduced, too, and supporting pregnant women is the way to do it. A blogging friend of mine who happens to be a pastor in the mid-west was a huge supporter of Obama because it was clear that he’d actually do more to create a culture in which life is valued and abortions will be reduced. And he wasn’t alone. There are reasonable people among the churched who understand the issue in all its subtleties; it’s why Obama won.
I actually sprinkle fetal bites on my Corn Flakes, but to each his own.
Seriously, though, the rate of miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion, is at least 25%.
So tell us, massah phreedm, why does Jesus kill so many innocent babies? And what does He do with all those miscarried souls?
honestpoet, phreedm is only here to antagonize, not converse. Maybe Obama will fix the abstinence(ignorance) only federal funding and push for comprehensive.
phreedm, I have always wondered why the holy spook did not rush in and save that baby from the mean old doctor, or could it be that the lord of mercy knew in his lucky charms magic way that the child was going to be the new Darwin.
I wonder what percentage of these religious anti abortion people are also for the death penalty….From my own experience I have found that most are…..
It seems like common sense that if you lessen the economic burden of having a child, less people would choose abortion.
I’ll never understand why the strategy of providing health-care, child-care, and education to families in order to reduce the number of abortions wasn’t the strategy and emphasis of the religious right.
This shift in strategy might reflect a change in approach, and may defuse the abortion issue to a significant degree in the future. I certainly hope it will, because many important issues of economic concern have been overlooked (in part) as a result of the amount of time and energy wasted on the abortion issue.
Comprehensive and realistic sex education from an early age is proven as among the best method to reduce unwanted pregnancy and therefore pregnancy termination so maybe Obama will increase funding for this and in turn bring the numbers of abortions down. Xian crazies will not appreciate this though because they are most comfortable with their head in the sand in regards to unwed young people having sex, with or without information about how to prevent pregnancy and STDs.
Comment from: CascadiaEventHorizon
Hmmm…it always has been.
http://tinyurl.com/5h7a6u
But those with their own personal agenda will find fault with this organization…
http://tinyurl.com/6332m7
One method of fooling your supporters is to always accuse others of exactly what you’re doing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apLjGQnTVg8
CastleNob…I look forward to you condemning Planned Parenthood as a racist bigoted organization…
Wow…can you imagine that? Google censors Prolife groups…
Charlie…
Me. But you already know that…
Huge difference…one is totally innocent. The other found guilty by a jury of their peers…
The only way those who are prodeath get around this are to “pretend” it’s not a human…
http://tinyurl.com/9xxwy
Now you tell me how any “advance civilized” society can allow this to happen all in the name of choice…
http://tinyurl.com/37vynk
Are you going to honestly claim this is not a human?
Comment from: honestpoet4
I’m curious…on what do you base this…?
Am I the only one who doesn’t want to “lessen the economic burden” of having a child?
I’m getting really tired of rewarding people for irresponsible behavior and punishing people who live within their means.
If you can’t afford a child, don’t have it, period. If you don’t like abortion, give it up for adoption.
No you are not. I find it especially grating as a gay man that my taxes go to pay for other peoples kids yet I dont share full equality as an American citizen. L-esbian singer Melissa Etheridge has it right when she declared that since she is a second class citizen she is no longer going to pay her taxes.
Cant feed ‘em? dont breed ‘em!
Between two-thirds and three-quarters of conceptuses never implant in the uterus and are spontaneously aborted.
Nobody delights in abortion but it seems even God is pro-choice.
Given that the biggest problems our children are going to face are all due to over population, I would suggest that the highest priority is contraception.
Start with sex education and make all forms of birth control easily available, here and in the 3rd world. It would be a good target for federal legislation and funding.
Many a cult leader in the past noticed that one way to defeat the ‘other’ is in the bedrooms of the tribe. Keep every available womb full and you can expand your army and take out the neighbouring tribes. Thus, no massturbation, no contraception, no education (surprise, you’re pregnant!) and no homosexuality.
Unfortunately, having once embedded this concept in their religion, reaching the days of the finite holding capacity of the earth finds the religious at odds with the best interests of every living thing.
Speaking, if I may, for every other species on this planet, currently threatened with extinction or not, the value placed on human blastulas in most circles is a little overdone.
Tuen
That is correct. For every child that Phreeky fathered/mothered/whatevered s/he killed two to three others. And s/he did so willingly.
Mxracer
No, you’re not. We should simply have a two child policy in the US.
phreedm spewed:
I might consider it when you admit your Bible is all this a whole lot more… … … …
phreedm further belched:
Whoa, phreedm–your paranoia is surfacing again–I had no problem finding more than enough on Google.
I’m really beginning to wonder it you actually believe what you’re writing… …
Phreedm
anti abortionist for the death penalty are the biggest oxymorons there are…your silly superstitions gotta go dude…..
“it” should be “if,” of course.
Not that phreedm would notice.
and What:
Like it.
godless sodomite–
“Comprehensive and realistic sex education from an early age” HA! We all know that Obama is planning on teaching the Kama Sutra to kindergarten students!
Pixel,
oh and dont forget that all first graders will be taken to gay weddings too! Ah! the sky is falling!
Kathleen Parker column in Wash Post today:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/
2008/11/18/AR2008111802886.html
The RR is dead … so dead.
Correction: 2 new parties.
If the RR gets kicked out of the GOP, there will be nothing to stop the Left from leaving the Democrats. The old bogeyman about “spoiling the election for the Dems” wouldn’t be credible anymore.
No you are not. I’m sickened by endless babymakers that do nothing for a living but spread their legs. I have no children because not only could I never afford them (who the hell can?!), plus I know I’m way too irresponsible to care for them (like a lot of breeders I know who breed anyway).
I’ll stick with paws, fur, and feathers. That way I ALWAYS have babies.
Major but I still think gay republican is the champ
anti abortionist for the death penalty are the biggest oxymorons there are
Hi… I’m blogging about my abortion, and the pro-lifers have their panties in a bundle over it.
Oddly enough, it is mostly this pro-life atheist who is sending the prolifers my way: http://ravingatheist.com/2008/12/a-laughing-matter/
http://ravingatheist.com/2008/12/priceless/
From that blog’s readers/commenters, you’d think all atheists were vehement prolifers.
Also- dd Dropout, love this quote from you: “Speaking, if I may, for every other species on this planet, currently threatened with extinction or not, the value placed on human blastulas in most circles is a little overdone.â€Â
So true!