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		<title>By: mxracer652</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91837</link>
		<dc:creator>mxracer652</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free market capitalism at its finest.</description>
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		<title>By: godless sodomite</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91838</link>
		<dc:creator>godless sodomite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness&#039; sake.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What a fantastic message!   &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s the ultimate grinch to say there is no God at a time when millions of people around the world celebrate the birth of Christ,&quot; said Mathew Staver, the group&#039;s chairman and dean of the Liberty University School of Law. &quot;Certainly, they have the right to believe what they want but this is insulting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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How does stating the obvious, that there is no god, make me an &quot;ultimate Grinch&quot;, Mr Staver?  I guess he would also lump jews into this category because they dont celebrate Christmas either.  I also think its interesting that he finds this ad campaign insulting in light of the fact that we atheists are bombarded everyday by religion.  I think its nice that this ad gives Christians a taste of what its like to hear a message that is at odds with their worldview.  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness&#8217; sake.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a fantastic message!   </p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s the ultimate grinch to say there is no God at a time when millions of people around the world celebrate the birth of Christ,&#8221; said Mathew Staver, the group&#8217;s chairman and dean of the Liberty University School of Law. &#8220;Certainly, they have the right to believe what they want but this is insulting.</p></blockquote>
<p>How does stating the obvious, that there is no god, make me an &#8220;ultimate Grinch&#8221;, Mr Staver?  I guess he would also lump jews into this category because they dont celebrate Christmas either.  I also think its interesting that he finds this ad campaign insulting in light of the fact that we atheists are bombarded everyday by religion.  I think its nice that this ad gives Christians a taste of what its like to hear a message that is at odds with their worldview.  </p>
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		<title>By: fireemblem555</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91840</link>
		<dc:creator>fireemblem555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me Christmas has become so secular, that I celebrate it and don&#039;t feel uncomfortable.  All my life it has been about Santa Claus, and togetherness, and nice lights, and presents.  I don&#039;t associate it at all with Jesus, or church or god, as I have never gone to church.  Plus when you think about it, it isn&#039;t even the real birthday of Christ, as it was changed to correspond with pagan dates.  So its a date with no significance to Jesus where I exchange gifts, and nice lights.  I see no problem with that.  It is however entirely each individuals choice, if I forced it on others I&#039;d be an asshole like the Jesus Freaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me Christmas has become so secular, that I celebrate it and don&#8217;t feel uncomfortable.  All my life it has been about Santa Claus, and togetherness, and nice lights, and presents.  I don&#8217;t associate it at all with Jesus, or church or god, as I have never gone to church.  Plus when you think about it, it isn&#8217;t even the real birthday of Christ, as it was changed to correspond with pagan dates.  So its a date with no significance to Jesus where I exchange gifts, and nice lights.  I see no problem with that.  It is however entirely each individuals choice, if I forced it on others I&#8217;d be an asshole like the Jesus Freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: fireemblem555</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91841</link>
		<dc:creator>fireemblem555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus the appeal of Christmas keeps many Christians in the religion.  If we make Christmas secular, that makes it easier to become an atheist, and infuriates Christians, now that is a lot of fun.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus the appeal of Christmas keeps many Christians in the religion.  If we make Christmas secular, that makes it easier to become an atheist, and infuriates Christians, now that is a lot of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: fireemblem555</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91842</link>
		<dc:creator>fireemblem555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We made Halloween secular, as almost nobody sees it in its original context, we can do it to Christmas</description>
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		<title>By: mxracer652</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91843</link>
		<dc:creator>mxracer652</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No thanks fireemblem.&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s celebrate real achievements, not just sliding out of a vagina. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No thanks fireemblem.<br />
Let&#8217;s celebrate real achievements, not just sliding out of a vagina.</p>
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		<title>By: castletonsnob</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/11/16/it_begins_godless_ads/comment-page-1#comment-91845</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome to answer my question about secular humanism here, phreedm, and then you will have earned the priviledge of debating me on this issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome to answer my question about secular humanism here, phreedm, and then you will have earned the priviledge of debating me on this issue.</p>
<p>Tick-tock&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sam moore jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam moore jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the ad  &quot;Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness&#039; sake&quot; and yes, I do Christmas the same way I do Halloween. I even go to All Saints and Christmas Eve services at the Unitarian church. I even indulge in a little &quot;recreational Christianity&quot; by going to an Advent service at a little country Universalist church. Still I remain a Secular Himanist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the ad  &#8220;Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness&#8217; sake&#8221; and yes, I do Christmas the same way I do Halloween. I even go to All Saints and Christmas Eve services at the Unitarian church. I even indulge in a little &#8220;recreational Christianity&#8221; by going to an Advent service at a little country Universalist church. Still I remain a Secular Himanist.</p>
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		<title>By: phreedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from: fireemblem555 &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;We made Halloween secular, as almost nobody sees it in its original context, we can do it to Christmas&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I love it when a nugget of truth slips out...&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;We made Halloween secualar...we can do it to Christmas&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously Christmas is a religious holiday.  Everyone views it as a religious holiday. Including the &quot;secular humanists&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s also the ONLY Federal religious holiday.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Whoops...so much for the &quot;myth&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from: fireemblem555 </p>
<blockquote><p>We made Halloween secular, as almost nobody sees it in its original context, we can do it to Christmas</p></blockquote>
<p>I love it when a nugget of truth slips out&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We made Halloween secualar&#8230;we can do it to Christmas&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Obviously Christmas is a religious holiday.  Everyone views it as a religious holiday. Including the &#8220;secular humanists&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also the ONLY Federal religious holiday.  </p>
<p>Whoops&#8230;so much for the &#8220;myth&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: phreedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from: castletonsnob &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;then you will have earned the priviledge of debating me on this issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What an arrogant individual...&lt;br /&gt;
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If life has taught me anything, it&#039;s that one can choose their battles...&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re not worth my time...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from: castletonsnob </p>
<blockquote><p>then you will have earned the priviledge of debating me on this issue.</p></blockquote>
<p>What an arrogant individual&#8230;</p>
<p>If life has taught me anything, it&#8217;s that one can choose their battles&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not worth my time&#8230;</p>
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