It Begins: Godless Ads

(Nov. 11) – You better watch out. There is a new combatant in the Christmas wars.Ads proclaiming, “Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness’ sake,” will appear on Washington, D.C., buses starting next week and running through December. The American Humanist Association unveiled the provocative $40,000 holiday ad campaign Tuesday.In lifting lyrics from “Santa Claus is Coming to Town,” the Washington-based group is wading into what has become a perennial debate over commercialism, religion in the public square and the meaning of Christmas.”We are trying to reach our audience, and sometimes in order to reach an audience, everybody has to hear you,” said Fred Edwords, spokesman for the humanist group. “Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of non-theists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of its association with traditional religion.”To that end, the ads and posters will include a link to a Web site that will seek to connect and organize like-minded thinkers in the D.C. area, Edwords said.Edwords said the purpose isn’t to argue that God doesn’t exist or change minds about a deity, although “we are trying to plant a seed of rational thought and critical thinking and questioning in people’s minds.”The group defines humanism as “a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism, affirms our responsibility to lead ethical lives of value to self and humanity.”Last month, the British Humanist Association caused a ruckus announcing a similar campaign on London buses with the message: “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”In Washington, the humanists’ campaign comes as conservative Christian groups gear up their efforts to keep Christ in Christmas. In the past five years, groups such as the American Family Association and the Catholic League have criticized or threatened boycotts of retailers who use generic “holiday” greetings.In mid-October, the American Family Association started selling buttons that say “It’s OK to say Merry Christmas.” The humanists’ entry into the marketplace of ideas did not impress AFA president Tim Wildmon.”It’s a stupid ad,” he said. “How do we define ‘good’ if we don’t believe in God? God in his word, the Bible, tells us what’s good and bad and right and wrong. If we are each ourselves defining what’s good, it’s going to be a crazy world.”Also on Tuesday, the Orlando, Fla.-based Liberty Counsel, a conservative Christian legal group, launched its sixth annual “Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign.” Liberty Counsel has intervened in disputes over nativity scenes and government bans on Christmas decorations, among other things.”It’s the ultimate grinch to say there is no God at a time when millions of people around the world celebrate the birth of Christ,” said Mathew Staver, the group’s chairman and dean of the Liberty University School of Law. “Certainly, they have the right to believe what they want but this is insulting.”Best-selling books by authors such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have fueled interest in “the new atheism” ? a more in-your-face argument against God’s existence.Yet few Americans describe themselves as atheist or agnostic; a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life poll from earlier this year found 92 percent of Americans believe in God.There was no debate at the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority over whether to take the ad. Spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said the agency accepts ads that aren’t obscene or pornographic.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

68 Responses to “It Begins: Godless Ads”

  1.  karen says:

    godless sodomite

    Sorry to make you start to lose your lunch there, alex. But remember, I was referring to birth, not sex. ;-)

    CEH

    the only “Real Holiday” in the next year is on January 20th. GOODBYE GW SHRUB, YOU %$#%@^*#!!!

    And what a magnificent holiday it will be!!!! Glory Howdeedoody!

  2.  what says:

    CEH

    Ramen to that!

  3.  castletonsnob says:

    I LOLed. Thanks!

    You’re welcome, karen.

  4.  phreedm says:

    Comment from: CascadiaEventHorizon

    I think most people here will agree that the only “Real Holiday” in the next year is on January 20th.

    Actually there’s already a move to make January 20th a holiday for the “messiah”…

    CEH…it’s going to be fun to listen to your surprise when NObama implements many of the same policies that Bush has…

    That concern is at the center of a debate among national security, human rights and legal experts that has intensified since the election. Even some liberals are arguing that to deal realistically with terrorism, the new administration should seek Congressional authority for preventive detention of terrorism suspects deemed too dangerous to release even if they cannot be successfully prosecuted.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/washington/15gitmo.html?_r=1

    Can you say…duped?

    By the way…I hope you’re not holding your breath for the Welfare Check the “messiah” promised you…

    What a bunch of maroons…hahahaha

  5.  castletonsnob says:

    Geez, what is it with you and Obama, phreedm?

    Get a room already!

  6.  castletonsnob says:

    On topic, I think the bus ads are a great idea–generally, if it sets off Bill Donahue, I’m for it!

    And I really don’t understand why Christian phundies like phreedm aren’t embracing it–after all, isn’t a surge of godlessness one of the signs of the “end of days,” the “second coming,” and “the apocalypse?”

    Isn’t this every true believer’s dream come true?

  7.  Tuen says:

    Hi What

    Hope it’s not a stupid question but what does “Ramen” mean??

  8.  reluctantatheist says:

    ball-sucker:

    u are also a complete gimp. checking our ip addresses. u do realise that we may be at the same place but not the same person.

    Odd that your I.P address changed on that post, no?
    I do realize that. I also realize you might have DID (split personality). Or you’re vying w/siblings in some wacko contest.

    also u are sad for checking in first place

    Yeah, I wish I could reclaim those lost minutes…boo-hoo, boo-hoo.
    Seriously, I’m not as bipolar as you seem to be (or as fragmented).

  9.  pixel says:

    I love the bus ad campaign – clever slogan!

    I think that Xmas is so ingrained into our culture that people would refuse to work on that day even if it stopped being a federal holiday.

    I think Xmas is a weird mix of pagan, xian, and secular. Actually, a lot of holidays in America are like that – Halloween, Easter, Thanksgiving, etc.

  10.  pixel says:

    Oh, and Tuen – “Ramen” is a way of saying “amen” in the joke religion of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    See this site for more info:

    http://www.venganza.org/

  11.  what says:

    Joke religion? Joke religion?!! How dare you. Captain Mosey will not be leading you to the Promised Sea. For the love of noodliness see:

    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster#Mosey

    Joke? Ha!

  12.  what says:

    Pixel

    You may want to reconsider your blasphemy on this most sacred of days.

    (CBS/AP) In a dramatic escalation of high seas crime, Somali pirates hijacked a Saudi supertanker loaded with crude oil hundreds of miles off the coast of East Africa – defeating the security web of warships trying to protect vital shipping lanes.

    The takeover demonstrates the bandits’ heightened ambitions and capabilities: Never before have they seized such a giant ship so far out to sea.

    May you be smote by his noodly appendage.

  13.  CascadiaEventHorizon says:

    What:

    Remember, more pirate attacks means less global warming. Go Pirates!

  14.  Tuen says:

    thx pixel

    faith protects the absurdities of all religions – The FSM concept serves us well

    sorry What, if I blasphemy “His Noodliness”…haha

    Why believe in a The Flying Spagetti Monster? Just be good for goodness’ sake.

  15.  karen says:

    What

    Surely the Pirates who overtook the Saudi supertanker had His Noodliness at their sides! Ramen! Pass the Parmesan! A Pirate victory bodes well against global warming. Wenches, kiss your Mates. AAAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!

    Tuen

    Why believe in the FSM? For the pasta -and the stripper factories and beer volcano! And because He really doesn’t care if you believe in Him or not! May your noodles be overcooked, for blaspheming the Great One!

  16.  pixel says:

    I grovel in abject apology to our Lord and Savior, FSM. May his marinara sauce pour over me and wash away my sin and blasphemy.

    Besides, pirates is sexy!! :-)

  17.  septos says:

    I see my FSM as a Fettucine alfredo w/sausage meatballs.
    Peas be with you.

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