Comments on: Obama Rep calls to set the record straight http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:05:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Physics101 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig/comment-page-1#comment-91158 Physics101 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-91158 I would like to hear what they have to say. I would like to hear what they have to say.

]]> By: Physics101 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig/comment-page-1#comment-91159 Physics101 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-91159 Actually, after the whole Kay Hagan "Godless" video thing, I realize just how far we have to go. The GOP is openly trying demonize atheists, as though we are all criminals or child molestors or something. But note Kay Hagan's reaction on CNN:<br /> <br /> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/30/dole.ad/index.html<br /> <br /> She basically says what was so bad that her "Christian Faith" was attacked. Well, perhaps, but she makes no mention of the fact that all atheists everywhere we slandered - mere association with us is considered a bad thing, by at least the GOP apparently.<br /> <br /> I don't believe members of any other group with non-Christian views on religion would have to endure that- it would be political suicide. The GOP could never make a video like that saying Hagan attended a meeting hosted by Jews, Hindus, Muslims, or Mormons. Yet unaffilliated Americans outnumber those groups combined by 3 to 1.<br /> <br /> It should be a priority of secular/agnostic/atheist groups to point out our sheer size to all candidates, and support those candidates that at least openly acknowledge our place at the table. Actually, after the whole Kay Hagan “Godless” video thing, I realize just how far we have to go. The GOP is openly trying demonize atheists, as though we are all criminals or child molestors or something. But note Kay Hagan’s reaction on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/30/dole.ad/index.html

She basically says what was so bad that her “Christian Faith” was attacked. Well, perhaps, but she makes no mention of the fact that all atheists everywhere we slandered – mere association with us is considered a bad thing, by at least the GOP apparently.

I don’t believe members of any other group with non-Christian views on religion would have to endure that- it would be political suicide. The GOP could never make a video like that saying Hagan attended a meeting hosted by Jews, Hindus, Muslims, or Mormons. Yet unaffilliated Americans outnumber those groups combined by 3 to 1.

It should be a priority of secular/agnostic/atheist groups to point out our sheer size to all candidates, and support those candidates that at least openly acknowledge our place at the table.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig/comment-page-1#comment-91161 reason Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-91161 How do we get the respect of candidates when they believe these fairy tales themselves.This is a culture war unless atheists are willing to convert others they will remain a despised minority.Atheists believe in religious liberty well the other side doesn't. How do we get the respect of candidates when they believe these fairy tales themselves.This is a culture war unless atheists are willing to convert others they will remain a despised minority.Atheists believe in religious liberty well the other side doesn’t.

]]> By: thx1138 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig/comment-page-1#comment-91162 thx1138 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-91162 I have long thought that the irony of the Christian Right is that if they did as their religion commanded, 'Love their neighbor,' 'Love those who despise them,' 'Turn the other cheek,' etc., they would be far more successful and far less divisive. Yet the Religious Right have people, epitomized by phreedm, full of hatred and sarcasm. I believe it was George Bush 41 who expressed the opinion that atheists should have no rights and should not be even be protected by the Constitution. Nice guys, huh? I have long thought that the irony of the Christian Right is that if they did as their religion commanded, ‘Love their neighbor,’ ‘Love those who despise them,’ ‘Turn the other cheek,’ etc., they would be far more successful and far less divisive. Yet the Religious Right have people, epitomized by phreedm, full of hatred and sarcasm. I believe it was George Bush 41 who expressed the opinion that atheists should have no rights and should not be even be protected by the Constitution. Nice guys, huh?

]]> By: joe zamecki http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/30/obama_rep_calls_to_set_the_record_straig/comment-page-1#comment-91164 joe zamecki Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-91164 As long as non-religious people are in the extreme minority in America, voting will not help us. I don't see any reason to take part in a system that shuts us out, after urging us to take part. (We're shut out when the votes are counted, and the majority wins.)<br /> <br /> They'll keep electing and re-electing irrational religious people, regardless of the harm those people cause, and regardless of how much we gripe. <br /> <br /> There are other methods for us to make progress, and I think that this approach to answering back when we're slighted is much more useful. Free speech is helpful and voting doesn't involve any of that. <br /> <br /> Plus when the person you vote for eventually insults and embarrasses you, and they will, remember your vote. Your precious precious vote. lol.<br /> <br /> Joe Zamecki<br /> Austin, TX As long as non-religious people are in the extreme minority in America, voting will not help us. I don’t see any reason to take part in a system that shuts us out, after urging us to take part. (We’re shut out when the votes are counted, and the majority wins.)

They’ll keep electing and re-electing irrational religious people, regardless of the harm those people cause, and regardless of how much we gripe.

There are other methods for us to make progress, and I think that this approach to answering back when we’re slighted is much more useful. Free speech is helpful and voting doesn’t involve any of that.

Plus when the person you vote for eventually insults and embarrasses you, and they will, remember your vote. Your precious precious vote. lol.

Joe Zamecki
Austin, TX

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