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	<title>Comments on: CA Gay Mariage Demonstration</title>
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		<title>By: godless sodomite</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/18/ca_gay_mariage_demonstration/comment-page-1#comment-90697</link>
		<dc:creator>godless sodomite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you in CA please make sure you get out and vote no on Prop. 8.  The opposition is running a little closer than before and we need help to defeat this hateful legislation.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you in CA please make sure you get out and vote no on Prop. 8.  The opposition is running a little closer than before and we need help to defeat this hateful legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: ccady</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/18/ca_gay_mariage_demonstration/comment-page-1#comment-90698</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is horrible that the state attempt to redefine marriage.  Therefore, I propose that the state get out of the business of &quot;marrying&quot; people.  The state should *only* issue domestic partnership licenses.  If a person wants to be &quot;married&quot; by a church, they can go ahead and do that.  The state should not be in the business of defining marriage at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is horrible that the state attempt to redefine marriage.  Therefore, I propose that the state get out of the business of &#8220;marrying&#8221; people.  The state should *only* issue domestic partnership licenses.  If a person wants to be &#8220;married&#8221; by a church, they can go ahead and do that.  The state should not be in the business of defining marriage at all.</p>
<p>Whatcha think?  Would it work?</p>
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		<title>By: godless sodomite</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/18/ca_gay_mariage_demonstration/comment-page-1#comment-90699</link>
		<dc:creator>godless sodomite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why change the term just because a group which has traditionally been excluded from it are now demanding it?  Marriage is understood in our culture and is a purely secular institution which requires no religious officiation, ceremony, or endorsement to be valid but only a nonreligious governmental license.  Since there are no secular arguments against same sex marriage the continued exclusion of gay couples from marriage in America is a goverment endorsement of religion and is therefore illegal and unconstitutional.  If you are eligible to vote in CA please vote no on Prop. 8!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why change the term just because a group which has traditionally been excluded from it are now demanding it?  Marriage is understood in our culture and is a purely secular institution which requires no religious officiation, ceremony, or endorsement to be valid but only a nonreligious governmental license.  Since there are no secular arguments against same sex marriage the continued exclusion of gay couples from marriage in America is a goverment endorsement of religion and is therefore illegal and unconstitutional.  If you are eligible to vote in CA please vote no on Prop. 8!</p>
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		<title>By: Dorky Mommy</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/10/18/ca_gay_mariage_demonstration/comment-page-1#comment-90700</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well put, gs:&lt;br /&gt;
The states should change their laws so that only a civil marriage is legal, as it is in many other countries.  Two people get married at City Hall, or in a judge&#039;s chambers, and that&#039;s it.  If they want to have any kind of blessing by a priest or shaman, they can do that, but it would have no legal meaning.  Clergy should not be empowered to officiate at weddings, unless they do so as a representative of the state, with a license from the state.  &lt;br /&gt;
And, of course, NO on Prop. 8.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well put, gs:<br />
The states should change their laws so that only a civil marriage is legal, as it is in many other countries.  Two people get married at City Hall, or in a judge&#8217;s chambers, and that&#8217;s it.  If they want to have any kind of blessing by a priest or shaman, they can do that, but it would have no legal meaning.  Clergy should not be empowered to officiate at weddings, unless they do so as a representative of the state, with a license from the state.  <br />
And, of course, NO on Prop. 8.</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Marriage is understood in our culture and is a purely secular institution.....Since there are no secular arguments against same sex marriage the continued exclusion of gay couples from marriage in America is a goverment endorsement of religion and is therefore illegal and unconstitutional.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice try.  But you can&#039;t have it both ways.  It&#039;s either a secular institution or a religious institution...&lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Nice try.  But you can&#8217;t have it both ways.  It&#8217;s either a secular institution or a religious institution&#8230;</p>
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