Comments on: Atheists both oppose and welcome electioneering sermons http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio A Blog of Atheist Thought Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:03:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sam moore jr http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89723 sam moore jr Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89723 Churches and other religious institutions ought to be taxed whether or not their clergy endorse political candidates. Churches and other religious institutions ought to be taxed whether or not their clergy endorse political candidates.

]]> By: karen http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89725 karen Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89725 <b>MERICAN</b> ATHEISTS? <br /> <br /> Who are they? They seem to have the same urls as <b>A</b>MERICAN ATHEISTS. Weird. <br /> <br /> /pedantry<br /> <br /> When PZ put up a post about Focus on the Family's Pastor's Pledge to promise to speak to their congregations about the election, yada yada, and sign up their churches, I signed up as Sister Sarah. (From the Clint Eastwood movie). My Church was St. Mattress of the Springs in Tick Bite, NC. <br /> <br /> Many other Pharyngulites signed up too, many of which have since been detected and purged. But St. Mattress is still there, among others. <br /> <br /> The way I see it, this Pulpit Initiative opens the door to IRS investigations, so have at it, folks. You wanna push the door open,don't get mad when it hits you swinging back the other way.<br /> MERICAN ATHEISTS?

Who are they? They seem to have the same urls as AMERICAN ATHEISTS. Weird.

/pedantry

When PZ put up a post about Focus on the Family’s Pastor’s Pledge to promise to speak to their congregations about the election, yada yada, and sign up their churches, I signed up as Sister Sarah. (From the Clint Eastwood movie). My Church was St. Mattress of the Springs in Tick Bite, NC.

Many other Pharyngulites signed up too, many of which have since been detected and purged. But St. Mattress is still there, among others.

The way I see it, this Pulpit Initiative opens the door to IRS investigations, so have at it, folks. You wanna push the door open,don’t get mad when it hits you swinging back the other way.

]]> By: DD Dropout http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89727 DD Dropout Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89727 What I would like to find is a case where two different churches publicly support two opponents. Then AA really could hold their toes to the fire. Who has the ear of God? Which one is praying harder or has the most faith? What I would like to find is a case where two different churches publicly support two opponents. Then AA really could hold their toes to the fire. Who has the ear of God? Which one is praying harder or has the most faith?

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89730 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89730 DD<br /> <br /> Liking it! DD

Liking it!

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89741 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89741 Tax a church? Insist on a "wall of separation between church and state"?<br /> <br /> OK...someone tell me how that would honor the separation? Clearly you've proven the myth with these statements.<br /> <br /> The concept of the government providing for the safety of churches (Tabernacle) is clearly explained in the book of Exodus.<br /> <br /> <blockquote>The principle of separation of church and state, set forth<br /> in the First Amendment and consistently supported by every reasonable<br /> interpretation since Jefferson first put it into words as 'a wall of<br /> separation' in 1801, prohibits undue involvement of preachers in our<br /> political arena."</blockquote><br /> <br /> Your hypocrisy is astounding. It was clear that the Dems violated your precious myth during their convention. Where were your words then?<br /> <br /> Obama and Clinton got millions in ear marks for churches...and yet AA is silent...???<br /> <br /> As for the myth being upheld since 1802...<br /> <br /> You really should do more research...<br /> <br /> Reynolds vs. United States 1878<br /> <br /> Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 457 (1892)<br /> <br /> Ed..by the way. It was 1802, not 1801.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Tax a church? Insist on a “wall of separation between church and state”?

OK…someone tell me how that would honor the separation? Clearly you’ve proven the myth with these statements.

The concept of the government providing for the safety of churches (Tabernacle) is clearly explained in the book of Exodus.

The principle of separation of church and state, set forth
in the First Amendment and consistently supported by every reasonable
interpretation since Jefferson first put it into words as ‘a wall of
separation’ in 1801, prohibits undue involvement of preachers in our
political arena.”

Your hypocrisy is astounding. It was clear that the Dems violated your precious myth during their convention. Where were your words then?

Obama and Clinton got millions in ear marks for churches…and yet AA is silent…???

As for the myth being upheld since 1802…

You really should do more research…

Reynolds vs. United States 1878

Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 143 U.S. 457 (1892)

Ed..by the way. It was 1802, not 1801.

]]> By: reason http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89772 reason Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89772 phreedm <br /> the democratic party is not the gov't.<br /> churchs need to focus on improving the quality of clergy,weed out the perverts,crooks and uneducated.you should consider becoming an atheist for some peace of mind don't you get tired of defending scoundrels. phreedm
the democratic party is not the gov’t.
churchs need to focus on improving the quality of clergy,weed out the perverts,crooks and uneducated.you should consider becoming an atheist for some peace of mind don’t you get tired of defending scoundrels.

]]> By: Ed Buckner http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-89886 Ed Buckner Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-89886 It was 1802, not 1801. --Ed Buckner It was 1802, not 1801. –Ed Buckner

]]> By: neowolfe http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/26/atheists_both_oppose_and_welcome_electio/comment-page-1#comment-90424 neowolfe Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-90424 After vowing never to return, I found my comments posted across the globe today when I googled myself. Comments I made here. I guess my message would be, take heart, people are watching and listening.<br /> <br /> That was my reason for returning, but while I'm here, having watched the invocation of the McCain rally, that it's a contest between Jehovah and Vishna, and Allah as to who is the supreme imaginary deity, the "maverik" has become (poetic license) "pathetik".<br /> <br /> I still don't want to argue with kindergarteners, I just wanted to brag that NeoWolfe is now global.<br /> <br /> NeoWolfe<br /> After vowing never to return, I found my comments posted across the globe today when I googled myself. Comments I made here. I guess my message would be, take heart, people are watching and listening.

That was my reason for returning, but while I’m here, having watched the invocation of the McCain rally, that it’s a contest between Jehovah and Vishna, and Allah as to who is the supreme imaginary deity, the “maverik” has become (poetic license) “pathetik”.

I still don’t want to argue with kindergarteners, I just wanted to brag that NeoWolfe is now global.

NeoWolfe

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