http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=349New Pew Forum on political leanings and religion. No surprises really, but I really hate the “this kind of christian, that kind of christian, and everyone else” mentality.
http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=349New Pew Forum on political leanings and religion. No surprises really, but I really hate the “this kind of christian, that kind of christian, and everyone else” mentality.
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Some more great xian values:
An effigy of Barack Obama was hung at George Fox University – a xian university in Oregon – with a note targeting a minority student scholarship program. Nice.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080924/D93D6CUG0.html
obeah,
If you are a free thinker with a good knowledge of the bible,(I fear to ask) where were you when Neo’s debate thread started?
I derive entertainment from bashing god from the pages of the bible, because most christians don’t even know what their bible says. They just sit and listen while their preacher tells them what it says. When you open their eyes to the fact that they are worshipping a sociopathic monster, they quit quoting scriptures and go away. I like that part.
The thread is dead, come and compare notes.
NeoWolfe
Post 2, the Palin bounce is gone, and between the collapse of the Bush economy, the feeble attempts at presenting Palin as an international player by introducing her to international figures without questions from the media, McBush’s campaign is in a statistical nosedive, and despite McBush’s most recent attempt to excuse himself from the debates, his final execution will occur on friday.
If there is one thing Obama can do, it’s debate. Everything McCain has said since he shed his maverik skin and became a presidential candidate, sounds like he’s reading it off his palm.
NeoWolfe
NeoWolfe,
I am not quite sure what you mean by “fear to ask”, but I was lurking and feeling a strange queasiness about your manner and opinions. You seem to think that you belong to some kind of club, and your continual use of the term ‘free thinker’ triggers in me an inexplicable sense of embarrassment.
Quoting the Bile at xians most often results in a quote-off. While it is usually futile, I sometimes find it irresistable; the Ignoramus makes me lose my restraint.
I think you would enjoy having your own blog and/or visiting xian sites where you could express yourself ad infinitum.
Obeah,
Nicely put.
Neo,
You wrote the following to Obeah (please note the bold emphasis is mine)
Yet in that very thread you wrote
And later
when What requested you first define ?god?.
HUH? Self-contradictory?
I’ll second Obeah’s last phrase
Doesn’t mean to say you’re not welcome to continue here (that’s not for me to say anyhow).
Obeah
Wow! Your “inexplicable sense of embarrassment” captures the essence of the creepy feeling I get as well when Neo uses the “free thinker” term.
Neo
For what its worth I would cut back on the effusive and grandiose nature of your posts. They smack of mania.
Obeah, and 666,
You may both be right. Maybe I killed the thread myself. My wish was to draw off the occasional bible thumping contributor to have a debate about the actual character of the idea of the supreme being that they worshipped. I do not know if any of them ever read what was on the thread, but, for sure, none of them had any rebuttals.
And I did indeed say that it was not a thread for free thinkers, but, that may have been the wrong way to put it. I thought that for a free thinker who was never raised with the fundamentalist brainwash, it would probably not be something they could relate to or understand. But, the more comments I read in other threads, the more obvious it becomes that many of the contributors here are a lot like me, at least having a basic knowledge of the monster, “Jehovah of Armies”. That gives them a leg up on the average christian who has no idea what his bible says.
But 666 made this statement, which was untrue:
when What requested you first define ?god?.
HUH? Self-contradictory?
I did do that, and told him my intent was to confront belief in the christian idea of the creator of the universe.
But, whatever, I thought, as did the website administrator, using the term “and other bloggers” to have some fun trashing Jehovah with the pages of his own “holy” word. Exchanging ideas on which was his most sociopathic act. Even if the right wingers don’t show up to defend their indefensible god, we can have fun sharing notes.
And I’m so glad that 666 still welcomes me here, if I got kicked off before Phreedumb, I would have to commit suicide. I’ve already done it eight times, and we all know that wolves only have nine lives.
NeoWolfe
I hasten to add that my comment regarding another blog was in no way suggesting that you vacate this one. It was a genuine observation.
And, your wish to draw away theists was an admirable one. It’s failure to do so seems to suggest that said theists are not interested in debate.
They didn’t take de bate. bur-um-bum, tishsh.
Neo,
You wrote:
grasping at straws or failure to comprehend?
I was pointing out that you addressed Obeah in the following manner: (Once again your words)
Yet during that thread you repeatedly stated that your thread was NOT for freethinkers. (Somehow, I think others reading here got the point.) In other words, you were being self-contradictory.
BTW,
is not a statement all by itself.
Anyway, please point out the “untruth” in the non-statement, because, in fact, What did request that you first define god, and you did indeed respond to What with the following
crap! need to amend!
fixit:
Hence the comment in regards to self-contradiction. Do you get it yet?
More BTW for you: I was first introduced to god/religion at the age of 5. My response was that it was all make-believe. That hasn’t changed.
However, I was raised around bible banger bullshit including years of missionary school (plenty (make that tons) of grade influenced bible study, daily morning devotions (in which I refused to participate – to personal detriment. Including, but not limited to, physical beating, ostracism (there was an actual call to “shun” me), and poor grades), Wednesday chapel and more), living with a preacher (and his family) for the Church of christ in the redneck panhandle of Tx, and more.
I do feel qualified to state that I know the book of hate known to xtians as the bi(b)le as well – even better than they do.
So I consider myself to be a “freethinker” and had some things to bring up in that thread. However, your dismissal of What’s request, and your statements that you didn’t want “freethinkers” participating sort of gave the impression that you wanted to take on that task on your own without any pesky freethinkers cluttering up the place.
Phreeloader won’t get kicked off this blog. Dave wants it here (increases blog traffic), doesn’t mean you have to interact with it.
‘Nuff said?
AS far as this
goes, it’s not clear whether or not that’s meant to be sarcasm.
666,
I don’t know if you actually read posts before you go spouting off, but read this from my post:
“You may both be right. Maybe I killed the thread myself. My wish was to draw off the occasional bible thumping contributor to have a debate about the actual character of the idea of the supreme being that they worshipped. I do not know if any of them ever read what was on the thread, but, for sure, none of them had any rebuttals.”
I believe that I went on to acknowledge my underestimate of how many contributors truly did have a good understanding of the bible. I asked the question and got the answer. But before I got the answer I already admitted that I was the one who killed the thread. What more do you want from me? It was a fun idea and I fucked it up. okay?
NeoWolfe