Comments on: Palin and Joel’s Army http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army A Blog of Atheist Thought Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:30:55 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88494 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88494 Would rather be on the Christian Conservative side in this conflict than on the Communist/Islamic side. I'm not saying "Welcome to World War III" because nobody on either side really would push the button except maybe on the Islamic side of things. As a conservative atheist, plan (actively plan) for the best and prepare (actively prepare) for the worst. The Christians are the puppets for us atheists in this conflict. Atheism is a result of secular logic being applied to the natural world, but with political activism I believe that these Christian Zionists can be controlled by us. Would rather be on the Christian Conservative side in this conflict than on the Communist/Islamic side. I’m not saying “Welcome to World War III” because nobody on either side really would push the button except maybe on the Islamic side of things. As a conservative atheist, plan (actively plan) for the best and prepare (actively prepare) for the worst. The Christians are the puppets for us atheists in this conflict. Atheism is a result of secular logic being applied to the natural world, but with political activism I believe that these Christian Zionists can be controlled by us.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88495 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88495 Fact: No Christian is going to be raptured up into heaven.<br /> <br /> Fact: The Christians want to bring democracy to the Middle East (little do they realise that free trade is good for atheism and bad for religion, so they really are pushing our secular American agenda). Anyhow, a democratic republic would give reasonable oil prices if there were competing oil companies instead of unionized companies.<br /> <br /> Fact: Sarah Palin wants to drill for oil in Alaska which is good for American economy, so let her do it!<br /> <br /> Fact: You can't destroy belief in Creationism in a classroom setting unless you first can mention it in the classroom and explain why it is wrong or controversial. Fact: No Christian is going to be raptured up into heaven.

Fact: The Christians want to bring democracy to the Middle East (little do they realise that free trade is good for atheism and bad for religion, so they really are pushing our secular American agenda). Anyhow, a democratic republic would give reasonable oil prices if there were competing oil companies instead of unionized companies.

Fact: Sarah Palin wants to drill for oil in Alaska which is good for American economy, so let her do it!

Fact: You can’t destroy belief in Creationism in a classroom setting unless you first can mention it in the classroom and explain why it is wrong or controversial.

]]> By: jamieguinn http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88496 jamieguinn Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88496 QF:<br /> <br /> On fact 1: Okay.<br /> <br /> Of2: They want to bring Jesus to the Middle East even more so, or (like in the Crusades) make them wish they had Jesus. The question is: Do they want a democracy? If not, are we right in forcing them to accept our political ideals?<br /> <br /> Of3: It's not that simple.<br /> <br /> Of4: Sure you can. QF:

On fact 1: Okay.

Of2: They want to bring Jesus to the Middle East even more so, or (like in the Crusades) make them wish they had Jesus. The question is: Do they want a democracy? If not, are we right in forcing them to accept our political ideals?

Of3: It’s not that simple.

Of4: Sure you can.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88497 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88497 By the way, the Holy Spirit is merely a repressed sexual urge and is a sensation of egoless zombiness due to Church Doctrines such as "Live to serve others" and "Die to the desires of your old self".... porn may very well be a solution for these nuts ;) By the way, the Holy Spirit is merely a repressed sexual urge and is a sensation of egoless zombiness due to Church Doctrines such as “Live to serve others” and “Die to the desires of your old self”…. porn may very well be a solution for these nuts ;)

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88498 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88498 Hey, things are as simple as they need to be, any simpler and they'd be incorrect and any more complex and they'd be wrong. I believe Einstein said something along those lines. Hey, things are as simple as they need to be, any simpler and they’d be incorrect and any more complex and they’d be wrong. I believe Einstein said something along those lines.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88499 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88499 Dave<br /> <br /> Please delete quantum-flux's posts. He is obviously just trying to be disruptive or he is having a mental health crisis. Seriously. Dave

Please delete quantum-flux’s posts. He is obviously just trying to be disruptive or he is having a mental health crisis. Seriously.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88500 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88500 What, I raise perfectly valid points that perfectly rational atheists can consider and then reject or accept. No need for censorship on these points. What, I raise perfectly valid points that perfectly rational atheists can consider and then reject or accept. No need for censorship on these points.

]]> By: Asemodeus http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88502 Asemodeus Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88502 Suddenly introducing democracy to a region does not prevent extremist or religious nuts. <br /> <br /> Since what did Iraqi's do when they got the chance to elect their leaders? They elected religious extremists. <br /> <br /> They are already forcing native christian Iraq's from the country and any other group they don't like. Suddenly introducing democracy to a region does not prevent extremist or religious nuts.

Since what did Iraqi’s do when they got the chance to elect their leaders? They elected religious extremists.

They are already forcing native christian Iraq’s from the country and any other group they don’t like.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88503 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88503 I'm sure they'd rather be introduced to capitalism instead of communism. I’m sure they’d rather be introduced to capitalism instead of communism.

]]> By: phreedm http://atheists.org/blog/2008/09/07/palin_and_joel_s_army/comment-page-1#comment-88506 phreedm Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-88506 quantum_flux...you've most likely been around long enough to realize that "What...do I know"...is a hysterical member of this blog who can not stand up to intelligent debate...<br /> <br /> He along with about 3 or 4 others will sooner then later turn to "censorship" as their answer to your very thoughtful statements and questions...<br /> <br /> <blockquote>Fact: You can't destroy belief in Creationism in a classroom setting unless you first can mention it in the classroom and explain why it is wrong or controversial.</blockquote><br /> <br /> Absolutely great statement...<br /> <br /> Even though I would debate from the opposite side, this is exactly why the vast majority of atheists want to keep the debate out of the classroom...<br /> <br /> The thought that any "Intelligent Designer" might be discovered, whether an alien or deity, scares them to death...even their prophet, Christopher Hitchens believes in the possibility of ID...<br /> <br /> Think of the results of this position. Dave and AA are able to not only use this debate as a fund raiser, this debate is also the foundational argument against school vouchers...<br /> <br /> The results? Dave and Barry (AA and the ACLU) are two of the main organizations who condemn inner city kids to stay in failing public schools...<br /> <br /> And as any world history student knows, an uneducated society is easier to control...<br /> <br /> <br /> quantum_flux…you’ve most likely been around long enough to realize that “What…do I know”…is a hysterical member of this blog who can not stand up to intelligent debate…

He along with about 3 or 4 others will sooner then later turn to “censorship” as their answer to your very thoughtful statements and questions…

Fact: You can’t destroy belief in Creationism in a classroom setting unless you first can mention it in the classroom and explain why it is wrong or controversial.

Absolutely great statement…

Even though I would debate from the opposite side, this is exactly why the vast majority of atheists want to keep the debate out of the classroom…

The thought that any “Intelligent Designer” might be discovered, whether an alien or deity, scares them to death…even their prophet, Christopher Hitchens believes in the possibility of ID…

Think of the results of this position. Dave and AA are able to not only use this debate as a fund raiser, this debate is also the foundational argument against school vouchers…

The results? Dave and Barry (AA and the ACLU) are two of the main organizations who condemn inner city kids to stay in failing public schools…

And as any world history student knows, an uneducated society is easier to control…

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