bloodless victory

Hardly Dave…

Who’s taking the place of “‘Teen Challenge”?

You? Barry in his ivory tower?

Just like education, you don’t care who you hurt to enforce the myth…

Tell me Dave…exactly how much money does AA give away to attempt to fix the “ills” of our society?

Truth is…it’s zero.

If you’re not part of the solution…you’re part of the problem…

The cats out of the bag now,” If you’re not part of the solution…you’re part of the problem…” Only a narrow minded moron thinks in such absolutes… you’re obviously President Bush.

Program participants must sign a ?Civil Rights Waiver? in which each surrenders the right to ?exercis[e] the religion of my choice.?

can’t sign away your civil rights.

there?s no evidence its approach even works

se people don’t care if it works. “Working” is not the issue for them. It’s about trying to convert them. That’s all.

Case closed.

Who’s taking the place of “‘Teen Challenge”?

Oh, that’s easy. Narconon, which has a very effective program aimed at drug users.

Very effective in duping people into joining Scientology, that is. They likewise, conspire to get public money to fund their proselytizing. Theirs is a more covert approach though, where they hide their association with the programs they sell to school boards, prisons, et cetera.

There’s no reason a Christian should object to Scientology doing the same work, with about the same results, is there?

I still suspect our resident troll of being a parody carried out by an atheist. No theist would ever say the things he does, making the religious look so bad.

if this is true dave….I will still read the blog because of the great read I find from posters like Karen

suck it non taxed churches

Only a narrow minded moron thinks in such absolutes…

INAB…I’m glad to see that you object to making absolute statements…

Tough to be an atheist though WITHOUT thinking in such narrow minded absolutes…

Lynn noted that while Teen Challenge and other fundamentalist ?faith-based? groups often claim high rates of success, no empirical data backs up the claim.

Would it matter if only one person was rescued from addiction? Two?

How about personal testimonies…

Don Fletcher was a long shot for a success story. A cocaine addict for 26 years, 49-year-old Fletcher had stooped to forging his father?s checks and stealing money from friends to buy drugs. Although he was well-paid as a supervisor at the Valdosta (Ga.) Times, he couldn?t pay his bills because of his addiction.

?It?s not the first rehab I went to,? Fletcher said. ?It?s the one that worked.?

Fletcher credits God and TCM for helping him kick his drug addiction. He graduated from the program May 8 of this year, and now works as an intern at the new Weatherford chapter of TCM.

Vincent, a 2004 graduate of the TCM program, is now certified to help the men in the center to deal with issues such as sexual abuse or anger. He also leads 14 group studies for the students, with lessons such as dating, growing through failure, or civil obediance. TCM will also help a student with no high school degree earn his GED.

When they aren?t in one of their classes, TCM students often join work shifts at Marco, a cabinetry and furniture company. Students also make and sell crafts, which go toward the self-sustaining organization.

Grisham was addicted to heroin, and said he used the drug to cover up deeper secrets in his personal life. He went through five different 30-day programs, and was kicked out of two more. He ran away from TCM after he first enrolled, but returned a week later. He said the program not only cleaned him of his heroin addiction, but helped him deal with the other problems in his life as well. One of the greatest gifts TCM gave, he said, was his family.

?When I drive up, they don?t say, ?Oh, what does he want now??? Grisham said. ?Now when I come, they have smiles on their faces.?

Clint Combs, a TCM graduate and the intake director for the Weatherford center, said the answer is simple: the program works. Combs was addicted to methamphetamine for seven years, and can attest to the success of the TCM program. He said even avowed athiests who went through the course with him saw life-changing results.

http://www.weatherforddemocrat.com/local/local_story_208111125.html

Come now…surely AA or Barry have an equally successful program….
Can ANYONE point to ONE program sponsored by AA…?

Truth is they take taxpayer money also…they just use the courts to steal it…