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		<title>By: mushinronjya</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86290</link>
		<dc:creator>mushinronjya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so tired of people using poor grammar.  Tell the grammar-challenged president that atheist is not capitalized when he&#039;s not using it at the beginning of a sentence, or when he&#039;s not saying &quot;American Atheists&quot; or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so tired of people using poor grammar.  Tell the grammar-challenged president that atheist is not capitalized when he&#8217;s not using it at the beginning of a sentence, or when he&#8217;s not saying &#8220;American Atheists&#8221; or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86291</link>
		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s mostly habit.  Ellen insisted on capitalization and we&#039;re all used to it.  I do it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s mostly habit.  Ellen insisted on capitalization and we&#8217;re all used to it.  I do it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86293</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So my prayer for rain WAS answered, heh heh...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my prayer for rain WAS answered, heh heh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pixel</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86294</link>
		<dc:creator>pixel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mushinronjya--&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m so tired of people using poor grammar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;me Too!  As A Teacher, i Am Appalled By mr. zindler&#039;s Lack Of Appropriate Capitalization.  i Say We Take Him Out Behind The Tool Shed And Beat The Bad Grammar Out Of Him!!  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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And to you Tim, I hope you&#039;re not seriously happy that books and archives were destroyed.  I don&#039;t agree with your holy books, but I would never want to see them destroyed.  The idea of book-burning (or book-drowning for that matter) makes my blood run cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mushinronjya&#8211;<br />
<blockquote>I&#8217;m so tired of people using poor grammar.</p></blockquote>
<p>me Too!  As A Teacher, i Am Appalled By mr. zindler&#8217;s Lack Of Appropriate Capitalization.  i Say We Take Him Out Behind The Tool Shed And Beat The Bad Grammar Out Of Him!!  <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And to you Tim, I hope you&#8217;re not seriously happy that books and archives were destroyed.  I don&#8217;t agree with your holy books, but I would never want to see them destroyed.  The idea of book-burning (or book-drowning for that matter) makes my blood run cold.</p>
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		<title>By: joe zamecki</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86296</link>
		<dc:creator>joe zamecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I capitalize &quot;Atheist&quot; because it&#039;s a mark of pride for me. Screw the grammar and spelling Nazis, I took back the use of the word &quot;Atheist&quot; in my life at least, and make it something to be proud of - proud enough that it&#039;s a proper name. &lt;br /&gt;
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Some of us had to struggle to obtain our freedom from religion, and that&#039;s worth the tiny gesture of letting language continue to be fluidic, as society is fluidic. As it should be. And if people who use language can&#039;t be in charge of their own language, why should there be any independent speech? It&#039;s really better this way.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I capitalize &#8220;Atheist&#8221; because it&#8217;s a mark of pride for me. Screw the grammar and spelling Nazis, I took back the use of the word &#8220;Atheist&#8221; in my life at least, and make it something to be proud of &#8211; proud enough that it&#8217;s a proper name. </p>
<p>Some of us had to struggle to obtain our freedom from religion, and that&#8217;s worth the tiny gesture of letting language continue to be fluidic, as society is fluidic. As it should be. And if people who use language can&#8217;t be in charge of their own language, why should there be any independent speech? It&#8217;s really better this way.</p>
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		<title>By: phreedm</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86297</link>
		<dc:creator>phreedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing Ellen has the diaries...&lt;br /&gt;
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Seventy grand? How big is this place? &lt;br /&gt;
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Sure sounds like someone was taken...&lt;br /&gt;
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But to show compassion...&lt;br /&gt;
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Say Frank.  I deal in the HVAC business.  If you don&#039;t mind receiving a scratch and dent air conditioner, and if I can find one that&#039;s the right size, I&#039;ll donate one to the cause...&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s important to keep historical documents for accuracy...&lt;br /&gt;
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If you&#039;re interested let Dave know...he&#039;s got my email address...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing Ellen has the diaries&#8230;</p>
<p>Seventy grand? How big is this place? </p>
<p>Sure sounds like someone was taken&#8230;</p>
<p>But to show compassion&#8230;</p>
<p>Say Frank.  I deal in the HVAC business.  If you don&#8217;t mind receiving a scratch and dent air conditioner, and if I can find one that&#8217;s the right size, I&#8217;ll donate one to the cause&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to keep historical documents for accuracy&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested let Dave know&#8230;he&#8217;s got my email address&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thx1138</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86299</link>
		<dc:creator>thx1138</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Comment from: mushinronjya [Member] ? http://www.myspace.com/gamer &lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m so tired of people using poor grammar.&lt;/blockquote&gt; You&#039;re confusing grammar with punctuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Comment from: mushinronjya [Member] ? <a href="http://www.myspace.com/gamer" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/gamer</a> <br />
I&#8217;m so tired of people using poor grammar.</p></blockquote>
<p> You&#8217;re confusing grammar with punctuation.</p>
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		<title>By: tarma</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86303</link>
		<dc:creator>tarma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just several weeks after I became Acting President of American Atheists, I discovered that the roof on the American Atheists Center in Cranford, New Jersey had been leaking for some time and water had already done considerable damage to books and other materials in our stock room. Worse yet, there were indications that the part of the roof covering the Charles E. Stevens American Atheist Library &amp; Archives (C.E.S.A.A.L.A.) was also failing and that the special climate-controlled, fire suppression-protected rooms housing the rarest materials were in grave danger.&lt;br /&gt;
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And the reason that the board of directors had no knowledge of this situation?  And why there are insufficient funds to deal with such a contingency?  Let me guess:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Disengaged board members.&lt;br /&gt;
- President unwilling or incapable of standing up to board to get something done about it.&lt;br /&gt;
- Lack of communication between board and president.&lt;br /&gt;
- Lack of common sense on the part of the board regarding prudent facility maintenance.&lt;br /&gt;
- Lack of fund raising to increase the trust fund.&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I getting warm here?</description>
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Just several weeks after I became Acting President of American Atheists, I discovered that the roof on the American Atheists Center in Cranford, New Jersey had been leaking for some time and water had already done considerable damage to books and other materials in our stock room. Worse yet, there were indications that the part of the roof covering the Charles E. Stevens American Atheist Library &amp; Archives (C.E.S.A.A.L.A.) was also failing and that the special climate-controlled, fire suppression-protected rooms housing the rarest materials were in grave danger.
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<p>And the reason that the board of directors had no knowledge of this situation?  And why there are insufficient funds to deal with such a contingency?  Let me guess:</p>
<p>- Disengaged board members.<br />
- President unwilling or incapable of standing up to board to get something done about it.<br />
- Lack of communication between board and president.<br />
- Lack of common sense on the part of the board regarding prudent facility maintenance.<br />
- Lack of fund raising to increase the trust fund.</p>
<p>Am I getting warm here?</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86304</link>
		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tarma, look for all the problems you want.  We&#039;re fixing them.&lt;br /&gt;
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But first, we need a roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tarma, look for all the problems you want.  We&#8217;re fixing them.</p>
<p>But first, we need a roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/07/21/letter_fro_prez_zindler/comment-page-1#comment-86307</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this meager operation being run out of a building that could ever require a $77,000 roof repair?  That roof repair is greater than the cost of my entire house, and hey, say what you want about my house, but I could damn well run AA out of it if I wanted to.  And it doesn&#039;t need a roof (just don&#039;t store the books in the basement.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the first thing AA should to to improve itself is to drop the pretentions and learn to &quot;run light&quot;.  Here in Pittsburgh we have many institutions that couldn&#039;t keep their doors open without huge donations -- not because they&#039;re doing a lot, but because of their way of insisting on modes of operation that make them feel special.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this meager operation being run out of a building that could ever require a $77,000 roof repair?  That roof repair is greater than the cost of my entire house, and hey, say what you want about my house, but I could damn well run AA out of it if I wanted to.  And it doesn&#8217;t need a roof (just don&#8217;t store the books in the basement.)</p>
<p>Maybe the first thing AA should to to improve itself is to drop the pretentions and learn to &#8220;run light&#8221;.  Here in Pittsburgh we have many institutions that couldn&#8217;t keep their doors open without huge donations &#8212; not because they&#8217;re doing a lot, but because of their way of insisting on modes of operation that make them feel special.</p>
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