The 4th of July is my favorite holiday of the year. No work, good weather, parades, and fireworks. I love it!Unless something special happens I won’t be posting tomorrow, Hence our official Independence Day thread. We’re independent from those crazy Brits, with their official church and rampant Atheism.This always brings up the question which we should always ask ourselves — are we wrong? IS the separation of church and state allowing churches to flourish at the expense of the secular? Would an “official religion” be better for atheists?It may have led to a more secular society if an official religion had been adopted in the founding fathers’ years, given 20/20 hindsight, because we’d be in a situation more like Europe now. Pure speculation, but speculation can be fun. It’s way too late, of course, and we are stuck with a fight. If we lose the fight, the official religion will take over the government, dictate our laws, and interfere with our lives and wallets in every way possible. It’s just funny how the Church of England has nearly no real effect on the British population.Happy 4th. Stand for the National Anthem, but SIT if they play God Bless America. Enjoy the fireworks.
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Sorry about the multiple postings, folks. I know you guys are frustrated with me for talking to jcc in the first place and now I’ve done this. Gremlins in my server or something.
Let’s try this one more time:
I didn’t say you did say that. I was just heading that implication off at the pass before
I don’t agree with you in regards to your assumption that Christianity would take over the government or any of that. Christianity does not seek to harm anyone not Christians not atheists not anyone. Christian simply seek to inform you and save you from everlasting torture and pain.
-God Bless,
Christian with questions and comments
I personally want God’s blessings on America. You don’t?
christianwithq’s
I assume you mean Jeebus, as you are a christian with qs? Jeebus is tied up in Crackergate, right now.
Wouldn’t you prefer the blessings of Cthulhu? His vengeance would be so much more horrible!
No I mean God the Father the one and true God, no other God but him.
Can you describe him for our sketch artist? How do you know he’s the *one true* god? Has he got some kind of validation papers? Who validated him?
He was before there was an Earth He created man and He should not have to be explained and the reason I cannot answer your “extremely hard questions” about my faith is simply because He is far to complex for the human mind to comprehend all I can do is trust him. You do believe in trust don’t you?
Who validated that their is no God?
This is not to be insulting, only to get you to inquire within yourself…..
Do you believe that you have a brain?
Well most likely you do. Have you actually ever seen your brain? Probably not or you would be dead. You know that you have a brain though because you have studied about brains maybe and you see the evidence of your brain at work in your own body. This can be somewhat of a comparision to God. God is much more complex and multifacited than that however.
The Bible says that the fool has said in his heart that there is no god. I have heard it said and ’tis true…..”When there is a design there is a designer, when there is a plan there is a planner.” You are a magnificent creation created by a CREATOR. There is a plan for you, a maganificent plan for you! God bless you on your journey of discovering that plan, the Creator, and the Savior of your soul.
christianw/q’s
You are the one making the positive claim that a god exists. It is up to you to provide evidence to support your claim. I see no evidence of such as yet. You are not the first to come here with these arguments. Sadly, you will not be the last.
No. I KNOW I have a brain. And you?
I have seen MRIs of my brain. I have had EEGs and ECTs. This is not analogous to a god, since the brain can be measured, quantified and studied, even altered.
What the Bible says about anything has no weight in this arena. You are relying on a book written by bronze age sheepherders who were barely literate. There is nothing divinely inspired about the book; it evinces nothing except what would be known at the time. In addition, it has been vastly edited and translated. Perhaps you should be following the god of the OT, before he got edited out, who required human sacrifices and had a wife?
Believe as you will. But try taking a closer look at what it is you really believe, and where it came from. Question whether it’s really necessary, or are you just afraid of death and the probability that there are no fairy-tale endings?
Are you?
Am I what? Afraid of death? No.
Afraid that there are no fairy tale endings? No. Am I the least bit afraid that I’ll come out on the wrong end of Pascal’s wager? No.
Now, I asked you first. Time to own up. Do you need to believe in god and an afterlife because you fear your own mortality?
quitian’
You said
Assuming that you are indeed human, then even you are incapable of “comprehending”.
Sounds like you are left to making up shit as you go along.
Suck it jesus