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		<title>By: jcc</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/16/crap_crap_crap/comment-page-1#comment-84585</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How wonderful would it be if everything was part of some divine grand plan?&lt;/blockquote&gt;An interesting yearning.  One that is counterintuitive to both the theory of evolution and the ultimate futility of atheistic dogma.  So, this begs the question: if atheism is so wonderfully fulfilling intellectually, why can?t it also provide the emotional comfort that everyone, at some point in their lives, will need?</description>
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<p>An interesting yearning.  One that is counterintuitive to both the theory of evolution and the ultimate futility of atheistic dogma.  So, this begs the question: if atheism is so wonderfully fulfilling intellectually, why can?t it also provide the emotional comfort that everyone, at some point in their lives, will need?</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/16/crap_crap_crap/comment-page-1#comment-84586</link>
		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheism provides nothing but truth.  The truth is sometimes bad.  Intellectual fulfillment is not emotional fulfillment, where theism has a clear advantage, but truth is truth JCC.  Sh!t happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheism provides nothing but truth.  The truth is sometimes bad.  Intellectual fulfillment is not emotional fulfillment, where theism has a clear advantage, but truth is truth JCC.  Sh!t happens.</p>
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		<title>By: tarma</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/16/crap_crap_crap/comment-page-1#comment-84587</link>
		<dc:creator>tarma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
How wonderful would it be if everything was part of some divine grand plan?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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How boring and pointless life would be if that were the case!  Being a puppet in some &quot;divine&quot; plan?  LOL!  No thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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But alas, I am condemned to take life seriously, look on the bright sides, and try to make lemonade out of lemons. I guess that&#039;s reality for ya.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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You betcha!  But try a Margarita instead :)&lt;br /&gt;
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How wonderful would it be if everything was part of some divine grand plan?
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<p>How boring and pointless life would be if that were the case!  Being a puppet in some &#8220;divine&#8221; plan?  LOL!  No thanks.</p>
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But alas, I am condemned to take life seriously, look on the bright sides, and try to make lemonade out of lemons. I guess that&#8217;s reality for ya.
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<p>You betcha!  But try a Margarita instead <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TheOtherOne</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/16/crap_crap_crap/comment-page-1#comment-84588</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOtherOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, when the tornados were passing (near)by a week or two ago, I was really, really wishing that I could beleive that there was someone out there with the power to affect the storm - someone I could bargain with, plead to, whatever . . . .&lt;br /&gt;
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It can really be scary that there is no one &quot;up there&quot; capable of protecting me and mine.  It doesn&#039;t make it any less true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, when the tornados were passing (near)by a week or two ago, I was really, really wishing that I could beleive that there was someone out there with the power to affect the storm &#8211; someone I could bargain with, plead to, whatever . . . .</p>
<p>It can really be scary that there is no one &#8220;up there&#8221; capable of protecting me and mine.  It doesn&#8217;t make it any less true.</p>
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		<title>By: GodFree&Glad</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/16/crap_crap_crap/comment-page-1#comment-84589</link>
		<dc:creator>GodFree&Glad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, you are right.  Shit happens and there is no way around it some days.&lt;br /&gt;
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So here&#039;s a joke to lift your spirits.  Plus, it makes such good sense.  The Irish have a way of cutting right through the crap.  Now I know I&#039;m voting for McCain. ;D&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;We, in Ireland , can&#039;t figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
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On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, running against a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a lawyer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good looking rich woman who owns a beer distributorship. &lt;br /&gt;
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What are you lads thinking over&lt;br /&gt;
there?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you are right.  Shit happens and there is no way around it some days.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a joke to lift your spirits.  Plus, it makes such good sense.  The Irish have a way of cutting right through the crap.  Now I know I&#8217;m voting for McCain. ;D</p>
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&#8220;We, in Ireland , can&#8217;t figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election in the United States.</p>
<p>On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, running against a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a lawyer.</p>
<p>On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good looking rich woman who owns a beer distributorship. </p>
<p>What are you lads thinking over<br />
there?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jcc</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Atheism provides nothing but truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I disagree.  In its practical application, atheism denies the &lt;i&gt;possibility&lt;/i&gt; of the truth of theism.  If one&#039;s goal is to seek and acknowledge the truth &lt;i&gt;where ever&lt;/i&gt; it leads, then atheism excludes itself in facilitating its discovery.&lt;blockquote&gt;Intellectual fulfillment is not emotional fulfillment, where theism has a clear advantage&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hmmm, could that be by &lt;i&gt;design&lt;/i&gt;?...But how can one be intellectually fulfilled without also being, to some extent, emotionally fulfilled as well?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<blockquote><p>Atheism provides nothing but truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree.  In its practical application, atheism denies the <i>possibility</i> of the truth of theism.  If one&#8217;s goal is to seek and acknowledge the truth <i>where ever</i> it leads, then atheism excludes itself in facilitating its discovery.<br />
<blockquote>Intellectual fulfillment is not emotional fulfillment, where theism has a clear advantage</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm, could that be by <i>design</i>?&#8230;But how can one be intellectually fulfilled without also being, to some extent, emotionally fulfilled as well?</p>
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		<title>By: leestein</title>
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		<dc:creator>leestein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  Sorry to hear things aren&#039;t going well at the moment.  But as someone once said: &quot;This too will pass.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
 Yeah, it&#039;s easy to understand why some people derive comfort from belief in an all-controlling entity. The rest of us just have to grin and bear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>  Sorry to hear things aren&#8217;t going well at the moment.  But as someone once said: &#8220;This too will pass.&#8221; <br />
 Yeah, it&#8217;s easy to understand why some people derive comfort from belief in an all-controlling entity. The rest of us just have to grin and bear it.</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, hope this helps...next time you see your child and wife give them a big hug and tell them you love them :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, hope this helps&#8230;next time you see your child and wife give them a big hug and tell them you love them <img src='http://atheists.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks TX.  best advice (next to the margerita) I&#039;ve heard all day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks TX.  best advice (next to the margerita) I&#8217;ve heard all day!</p>
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		<title>By: gagglefrak</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I disagree. In its practical application, atheism denies the possibility of the truth of theism. If one&#039;s goal is to seek and acknowledge the truth where ever it leads, then atheism excludes itself in facilitating its discovery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To my knowledge, atheism doesn&#039;t deny the possibility of anything.  It just requires solid proof before a thing is relied to on to be true.  Leprechauns may very well exist -- but until somebody shows me one, I&#039;m not going to sit around waiting for one to give me a pot of gold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Atheism denies that theism has been proven to be true, and asserts that therefore it should not be relied upon as a spiritual crutch.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for intellectual fulfillment, just because it&#039;s not the same thing as emotional fulfillment doesn&#039;t mean that the one can&#039;t sometimes follow from the other.  Also, who said emotional fulfillment can&#039;t be found elsewhere?  I get emotional fulfillment from many sources -- my wife, my family, my hobbies, and yes, even my intellectual pursuits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, I know a great many Christians who are anything BUT emotionally fulfilled -- so I&#039;m not sure theism is any big guarantee in that department.</description>
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I disagree. In its practical application, atheism denies the possibility of the truth of theism. If one&#8217;s goal is to seek and acknowledge the truth where ever it leads, then atheism excludes itself in facilitating its discovery.
</p></blockquote>
<p>To my knowledge, atheism doesn&#8217;t deny the possibility of anything.  It just requires solid proof before a thing is relied to on to be true.  Leprechauns may very well exist &#8212; but until somebody shows me one, I&#8217;m not going to sit around waiting for one to give me a pot of gold.</p>
<p>Atheism denies that theism has been proven to be true, and asserts that therefore it should not be relied upon as a spiritual crutch.</p>
<p>As for intellectual fulfillment, just because it&#8217;s not the same thing as emotional fulfillment doesn&#8217;t mean that the one can&#8217;t sometimes follow from the other.  Also, who said emotional fulfillment can&#8217;t be found elsewhere?  I get emotional fulfillment from many sources &#8212; my wife, my family, my hobbies, and yes, even my intellectual pursuits.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I know a great many Christians who are anything BUT emotionally fulfilled &#8212; so I&#8217;m not sure theism is any big guarantee in that department.</p>
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