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		<description>Yeah...so tell me, exactly which candidate is mixing his faith with his public office...?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;It wasn&#039;t until after college, when I went to Chicago to work as a community organizer for a group of Christian churches, that I confronted my own spiritual dilemma. In a sense, what brought me to Chicago in the first place was a hunger for some sort of meaning in my life. I wanted to be part of something larger. I&#039;d been inspired by the civil rights movement - by all the clear-eyed, straight-backed, courageous young people who&#039;d boarded buses and traveled down South to march and sit at lunch counters, and lay down their lives in some cases for freedom.&lt;strong&gt;These would have been Republicans, the part of Martin Luther King&lt;/strong&gt; I was too young to be involved in that movement, but I felt I could play a small part in the continuing battle for justice by helping rebuild some of Chicago&#039;s poorest neighborhoods.&lt;br /&gt;
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So one Sunday, I put on one of the few clean jackets I had, and went over to Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street on the South Side of Chicago. And I heard Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright deliver a sermon called &quot;The Audacity of Hope.&quot; And during the course of that sermon, he introduced me to someone named Jesus Christ. I learned that my sins could be redeemed. I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, He would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in Him. And in time, I came to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world and in my own life.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;So doing the Lord&#039;s work is a thread that&#039;s run through our politics since the very beginning. And it puts the lie to the notion that the separation of church and state in America means faith should have no role in public life.&lt;/strong&gt; Imagine Lincoln&#039;s Second Inaugural without its reference to &quot;the judgments of the Lord.&quot; Or King&#039;s &quot;I Have a Dream&quot; speech without its reference to &quot;all of God&#039;s children.&quot; Or President Kennedy&#039;s Inaugural without the words, &quot;here on Earth, God&#039;s work must truly be our own.&quot; At each of these junctures, by summoning a higher truth and embracing a universal faith, our leaders inspired ordinary people to achieve extraordinary things.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won&#039;t be fulfilling God&#039;s will unless I go out and do the Lord&#039;s work.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.barackobama.com/2007/06/23/a_politics_of_conscience_1.php&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;so tell me, exactly which candidate is mixing his faith with his public office&#8230;?</p>
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<blockquote><p>It wasn&#8217;t until after college, when I went to Chicago to work as a community organizer for a group of Christian churches, that I confronted my own spiritual dilemma. In a sense, what brought me to Chicago in the first place was a hunger for some sort of meaning in my life. I wanted to be part of something larger. I&#8217;d been inspired by the civil rights movement &#8211; by all the clear-eyed, straight-backed, courageous young people who&#8217;d boarded buses and traveled down South to march and sit at lunch counters, and lay down their lives in some cases for freedom.<strong>These would have been Republicans, the part of Martin Luther King</strong> I was too young to be involved in that movement, but I felt I could play a small part in the continuing battle for justice by helping rebuild some of Chicago&#8217;s poorest neighborhoods.</p>
<p>So one Sunday, I put on one of the few clean jackets I had, and went over to Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street on the South Side of Chicago. And I heard Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright deliver a sermon called &#8220;The Audacity of Hope.&#8221; And during the course of that sermon, he introduced me to someone named Jesus Christ. I learned that my sins could be redeemed. I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, He would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in Him. And in time, I came to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world and in my own life.</p>
<p><strong>So doing the Lord&#8217;s work is a thread that&#8217;s run through our politics since the very beginning. And it puts the lie to the notion that the separation of church and state in America means faith should have no role in public life.</strong> Imagine Lincoln&#8217;s Second Inaugural without its reference to &#8220;the judgments of the Lord.&#8221; Or King&#8217;s &#8220;I Have a Dream&#8221; speech without its reference to &#8220;all of God&#8217;s children.&#8221; Or President Kennedy&#8217;s Inaugural without the words, &#8220;here on Earth, God&#8217;s work must truly be our own.&#8221; At each of these junctures, by summoning a higher truth and embracing a universal faith, our leaders inspired ordinary people to achieve extraordinary things.</p>
<p><strong>My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won&#8217;t be fulfilling God&#8217;s will unless I go out and do the Lord&#8217;s work.</strong></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: alexatheist</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/04/mccain_vs_obama_bush_vs_gore/comment-page-1#comment-83996</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mccain and obama both suck!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/04/mccain_vs_obama_bush_vs_gore/comment-page-1#comment-84002</link>
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		<description>So John &quot;Keating Five&quot; McCain used his &quot;faith&quot; talk to hype the threat of the feckless ismalobogeyman. More war! Less jobs! Yippee! &lt;br /&gt;
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Whereas Obama stayed positive and even acknowledged his respect for atheists with:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt; We are a nation of many faiths and of those with no faith at all. The religious practices of all must be respected.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Phreeky has a irrepressible ability to see what he wants to see in just about anything. Images of The Virgin Mary in a pile of horse dung? Ha! Child&#039;s play for the Phreek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So John &#8220;Keating Five&#8221; McCain used his &#8220;faith&#8221; talk to hype the threat of the feckless ismalobogeyman. More war! Less jobs! Yippee! </p>
<p>Whereas Obama stayed positive and even acknowledged his respect for atheists with:</p>
<blockquote><p> We are a nation of many faiths and of those with no faith at all. The religious practices of all must be respected.</p></blockquote>
<p>Phreeky has a irrepressible ability to see what he wants to see in just about anything. Images of The Virgin Mary in a pile of horse dung? Ha! Child&#8217;s play for the Phreek.</p>
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		<title>By: quantum_flux</title>
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		<description>Vote McCain, he is a NAVY pilot guy!  I&#039;ll hedge my bets that McCain would make a better president, commander and chief, merely because of the fact that he was a POW for many years and wants to seek vengeance on communism.  McCain will do what he says he will do (smaller government, cutting pork barrel spending initiatives, build up our nation&#039;s pathetic military, and get oil the old fashioned way by stealing it and shooting down islamic pirate ships with FA-18s and blackhawks)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote McCain, he is a NAVY pilot guy!  I&#8217;ll hedge my bets that McCain would make a better president, commander and chief, merely because of the fact that he was a POW for many years and wants to seek vengeance on communism.  McCain will do what he says he will do (smaller government, cutting pork barrel spending initiatives, build up our nation&#8217;s pathetic military, and get oil the old fashioned way by stealing it and shooting down islamic pirate ships with FA-18s and blackhawks)</p>
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		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/06/04/mccain_vs_obama_bush_vs_gore/comment-page-1#comment-84012</link>
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		<description>&quot;What do I know&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re a fool.  When you refuse to see the facts that are right in front of you, when everyone else does, it merely proves how bias you are...&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, I do see what I want to see.  Obama&#039;s own words...&lt;br /&gt;
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If McCain called the &quot;myth&quot; a lie you&#039;d be all over it.  Instead you twist in the wind, try to divert attention from the facts in an attempt to save you&#039;re own personal &quot;messiah&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What do I know&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a fool.  When you refuse to see the facts that are right in front of you, when everyone else does, it merely proves how bias you are&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I do see what I want to see.  Obama&#8217;s own words&#8230;</p>
<p>If McCain called the &#8220;myth&#8221; a lie you&#8217;d be all over it.  Instead you twist in the wind, try to divert attention from the facts in an attempt to save you&#8217;re own personal &#8220;messiah&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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