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	<title>Comments on: Fuming at the Mall</title>
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		<title>By: alexatheist</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/31/fuming_at_the_mall/comment-page-1#comment-83641</link>
		<dc:creator>alexatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didnt you engage this xian in polite yet firm conversation?  I certainly would have.  Every year at Gay Pride here at Duke campus they have several gay friendly churches set up under tents and I always ask them to justify their beliefs.  Last year all of the churches were very open to dialouge with me except the catholics which asked me to leave.  Surprisingly the baptists were the most friendly and open to hearing what I had to say.  If you dont speak up against religion and for reason at every chance then don&#039;t bitch when religious people trample on your rights.  I&#039;m just saying...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didnt you engage this xian in polite yet firm conversation?  I certainly would have.  Every year at Gay Pride here at Duke campus they have several gay friendly churches set up under tents and I always ask them to justify their beliefs.  Last year all of the churches were very open to dialouge with me except the catholics which asked me to leave.  Surprisingly the baptists were the most friendly and open to hearing what I had to say.  If you dont speak up against religion and for reason at every chance then don&#8217;t bitch when religious people trample on your rights.  I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jcc</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/31/fuming_at_the_mall/comment-page-1#comment-83645</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Should I have jumped in and helped to save the girls from the attempt at brainwashing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;What? So you could have &quot;brainwashed&quot; them with &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; mindset instead?  Last I heard, the First Amendment is still the law in this country.  No one held a gun to their heads to have to listen to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Should I have jumped in and helped to save the girls from the attempt at brainwashing?</p></blockquote>
<p>What? So you could have &#8220;brainwashed&#8221; them with <i>your</i> mindset instead?  Last I heard, the First Amendment is still the law in this country.  No one held a gun to their heads to have to listen to it.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/31/fuming_at_the_mall/comment-page-1#comment-83646</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,&lt;br /&gt;
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If two teen-aged girls on a mall trip stop to listen to Bible thumpers, chances are they&#039;re already indoctrinated and just want to check out the story line on the set-up at the mall, so they can either nod in agreement or go running to their pastor on Sunday and say &quot;Do you know what this man at the mall was saying about Jaysus!?&quot; I wouldn&#039;t get too emotionally twisted over any &quot;brainwashing&quot; going on. The girls were teens after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Would have been entertaining if you&#039;d engaged the thumpers with some pointed questions though. But since you had your daughter along, best not to stir the pot, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>If two teen-aged girls on a mall trip stop to listen to Bible thumpers, chances are they&#8217;re already indoctrinated and just want to check out the story line on the set-up at the mall, so they can either nod in agreement or go running to their pastor on Sunday and say &#8220;Do you know what this man at the mall was saying about Jaysus!?&#8221; I wouldn&#8217;t get too emotionally twisted over any &#8220;brainwashing&#8221; going on. The girls were teens after all.</p>
<p>Would have been entertaining if you&#8217;d engaged the thumpers with some pointed questions though. But since you had your daughter along, best not to stir the pot, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/31/fuming_at_the_mall/comment-page-1#comment-83647</link>
		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCC, That&#039;s what my wife said.  Parents raise their own kids, nobody was forcing them to listen, MYOFB.  So I did.  &lt;br /&gt;
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But in reality, while our rights are equal, our positions are not.  We as Atheists cannnot accept the &quot;I&#039;m OK, you&#039;re OK&quot; position anymore.  Mythology hurts people.  Reality does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCC, That&#8217;s what my wife said.  Parents raise their own kids, nobody was forcing them to listen, MYOFB.  So I did.  </p>
<p>But in reality, while our rights are equal, our positions are not.  We as Atheists cannnot accept the &#8220;I&#8217;m OK, you&#8217;re OK&#8221; position anymore.  Mythology hurts people.  Reality does not.</p>
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		<title>By: funandprophet</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/31/fuming_at_the_mall/comment-page-1#comment-83648</link>
		<dc:creator>funandprophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough call. You could get banned from the mall, if things get nasty.&lt;br /&gt;
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I usually carry around a copy of &quot;Kissing Hank&#039;s Ass&quot; (and the PG-rated version) to give to people as a &quot;tract.&quot;  Might be a good idea to have that handy for next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough call. You could get banned from the mall, if things get nasty.</p>
<p>I usually carry around a copy of &#8220;Kissing Hank&#8217;s Ass&#8221; (and the PG-rated version) to give to people as a &#8220;tract.&#8221;  Might be a good idea to have that handy for next time.</p>
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