Comments on: Healthcare Weekend — Insuance is needed http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed A Blog of Atheist Thought Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:45:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82820 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82820 <blockquote> The plan will also provide special grants to small employers to help them cover the costs for their employees<br /> </blockquote> That's a give-away to private insurance companies and would rather quickly put the folks of PA, presently uninsured included, in a potentially worse situation. <br /> <br /> Socialized medical insurance is the answer not this sort of pandering.

The plan will also provide special grants to small employers to help them cover the costs for their employees

That’s a give-away to private insurance companies and would rather quickly put the folks of PA, presently uninsured included, in a potentially worse situation.

Socialized medical insurance is the answer not this sort of pandering.

]]> By: 666 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82821 666 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82821 It'd nicer to see health care rather than insurance care! It’d nicer to see health care rather than insurance care!

]]> By: GodFree&Glad http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82831 GodFree&Glad Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82831 Justice for all, huh? Where do we get the money to cover everybody? And does it matter that the taxpayer will have to dig deeper yet to get health care for even those who choose to smoke, drink excessively, overeat, etc., etc., etc. Does it matter that a smoker can find money for cigarettes but not for insurance? Or that the drinker can always find money for booze, or the fattie can always find money for junk food? There are no easy answers, but the bottom line is always gtoing to be how do we pay for what we would like to see happen. <br /> <br /> I've heard Obama say he plans to make health care more affordable so that everybody can afford it. How does that work, I wonder? Sounds like he's going to be praying for a miracle. Where are you, Jesus, when we need you? Justice for all, huh? Where do we get the money to cover everybody? And does it matter that the taxpayer will have to dig deeper yet to get health care for even those who choose to smoke, drink excessively, overeat, etc., etc., etc. Does it matter that a smoker can find money for cigarettes but not for insurance? Or that the drinker can always find money for booze, or the fattie can always find money for junk food? There are no easy answers, but the bottom line is always gtoing to be how do we pay for what we would like to see happen.

I’ve heard Obama say he plans to make health care more affordable so that everybody can afford it. How does that work, I wonder? Sounds like he’s going to be praying for a miracle. Where are you, Jesus, when we need you?

]]> By: mxracer652 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82832 mxracer652 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82832 No thanks.<br /> <br /> -mxracer652, Pittsburgh, PA No thanks.

-mxracer652, Pittsburgh, PA

]]> By: rna2dna http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82836 rna2dna Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82836 Expanding the role of religion beyond the wall of the church is not helpful.<br /> <br /> I agree with what. Why are we having insurance companies making a healthy profit from providing access to health care.<br /> <br /> The money to provide the "lower" cost insurance is coming from your taxes. In effect you are paying whatever the health care costs PLUS whatever profit the insurance companies want to get PLUS the salaries and benefits provided to the HIGHLY paid insurance executives. PLUS the no limits health insurance provided to your congress critter. PLUS the cost of highly paid insurance lobbyists and I'm guessing they have unlimited isurance plans as well. You are paying for all of that.<br /> <br /> No god, no sheeple. Expanding the role of religion beyond the wall of the church is not helpful.

I agree with what. Why are we having insurance companies making a healthy profit from providing access to health care.

The money to provide the “lower” cost insurance is coming from your taxes. In effect you are paying whatever the health care costs PLUS whatever profit the insurance companies want to get PLUS the salaries and benefits provided to the HIGHLY paid insurance executives. PLUS the no limits health insurance provided to your congress critter. PLUS the cost of highly paid insurance lobbyists and I’m guessing they have unlimited isurance plans as well. You are paying for all of that.

No god, no sheeple.

]]> By: mxracer652 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82843 mxracer652 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82843 A year or so ago, it was discovered that Wal-Junk employees are the largest burden on PAs state welfare programs. Allowing even more shit companies to suckle at the teat of social welfare is the exact opposite of what we should do.<br /> <br /> rna2dna,<br /> UPMC (Univ of Pittsburgh Medical Center) is the second largest employer in Pennsylvania and is a non profit. A year or so ago, it was discovered that Wal-Junk employees are the largest burden on PAs state welfare programs. Allowing even more shit companies to suckle at the teat of social welfare is the exact opposite of what we should do.

rna2dna,
UPMC (Univ of Pittsburgh Medical Center) is the second largest employer in Pennsylvania and is a non profit.

]]> By: cry4turtles http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82850 cry4turtles Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82850 I agree with MXracer and God Free. "No thanks" to religious hypocritical pandering. I'm pretty sure the $13 million dollars spent on the megachurch 2 miles from here could've provided a lot of advantage to the local medically disadvantaged population. Instead they got a pretty building with a pointy steeple on top. How helpful is that? Oh yeah, that prayer thing. You can't fix stupid.<br /> <br /> I work out, eat my fruits and veggies, don't smoke or touch fast food (including soda). Why should I pay outta the ass for those that actively harm their health and then cry because their scripts are $500 a month? I repeat, you can't fix stupid. <br /> <br /> All I need is accident insurance. I wouldn't even consider going to a doctor unless I'm certain I will die if I don't. Most are nothing more that highly paid drug pushers. I agree with MXracer and God Free. “No thanks” to religious hypocritical pandering. I’m pretty sure the $13 million dollars spent on the megachurch 2 miles from here could’ve provided a lot of advantage to the local medically disadvantaged population. Instead they got a pretty building with a pointy steeple on top. How helpful is that? Oh yeah, that prayer thing. You can’t fix stupid.

I work out, eat my fruits and veggies, don’t smoke or touch fast food (including soda). Why should I pay outta the ass for those that actively harm their health and then cry because their scripts are $500 a month? I repeat, you can’t fix stupid.

All I need is accident insurance. I wouldn’t even consider going to a doctor unless I’m certain I will die if I don’t. Most are nothing more that highly paid drug pushers.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82856 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82856 cry4turtles<br /> <br /> You already are paying for the care of others and you will continue to do so. The only question is how to keep costs down. The present system in the US is simply not up to the challenge. cry4turtles

You already are paying for the care of others and you will continue to do so. The only question is how to keep costs down. The present system in the US is simply not up to the challenge.

]]> By: cry4turtles http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82859 cry4turtles Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82859 If we pay for the care of others who actually cared for themselves, it would keep costs down. How to start? Rip soda machines out of schools. Stop feeding students government subsidised junk, and make the cafeteria as much a learning place as a classroom.<br /> <br /> These efforts would pay off tremendously in the long run by making diabetes, heart disease, and cancer as rare as it used to be.<br /> <br /> Of course we could just pray. If we pay for the care of others who actually cared for themselves, it would keep costs down. How to start? Rip soda machines out of schools. Stop feeding students government subsidised junk, and make the cafeteria as much a learning place as a classroom.

These efforts would pay off tremendously in the long run by making diabetes, heart disease, and cancer as rare as it used to be.

Of course we could just pray.

]]> By: rna2dna http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/17/healthcare_weekend_insuance_is_needed/comment-page-1#comment-82864 rna2dna Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82864 mxracer652,<br /> <br /> I don't know why you directed your comment at me. You are addressing a different piece of the puzzle. You can't fix a flat tire by putting more gas in the tank.<br /> <br /> The insurance industry is a service sink not a service provider, particularly within health care.<br /> mxracer652,

I don’t know why you directed your comment at me. You are addressing a different piece of the puzzle. You can’t fix a flat tire by putting more gas in the tank.

The insurance industry is a service sink not a service provider, particularly within health care.

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