Comments on: Camp Quest Gearing Up http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up A Blog of Atheist Thought Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:48:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: psycho-sam http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82527 psycho-sam Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82527 Don't forget www.camp-quest.org.uk for those my side of the pond!<br /> <br /> (And I apologise for the title - not my doing - I would never call it "atheist camp")<br /> <br /> Samantha Don’t forget http://www.camp-quest.org.uk for those my side of the pond!

(And I apologise for the title – not my doing – I would never call it “atheist camp”)

Samantha

]]> By: RedLilac http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82537 RedLilac Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82537 My son is 24 yrs old and he went to Camp Quest when there was only one camp site. He still remembers the experience fondly. This is the one place that children of Atheists can go and talk with their peers openly. He had fun and brought home a picture of them covered in mud. He also liked the ?authority? of being a junior counselor since he was one of the older kids. He was not allowed to join the Boy Scouts of America although he was allowed to join YMCA Indian Guides. This is a great opportunity. I?m happy to hear that it has gone international with the UK.<br /> <br /> My son is 24 yrs old and he went to Camp Quest when there was only one camp site. He still remembers the experience fondly. This is the one place that children of Atheists can go and talk with their peers openly. He had fun and brought home a picture of them covered in mud. He also liked the ?authority? of being a junior counselor since he was one of the older kids. He was not allowed to join the Boy Scouts of America although he was allowed to join YMCA Indian Guides. This is a great opportunity. I?m happy to hear that it has gone international with the UK.

]]> By: sam moore jr http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82541 sam moore jr Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82541 Best wishes to Camp Quest-- I would love to be a camp counselor again at Camp Quest. When I was a young man and a closet beer-guzzling, cigarette-smoking Jesus freak I was a counselor in Christian camps. As I've said before, reading a good book about Jesus made a confirmed Atheist of me ( and I even quit drinking and smoking in my early 30s-- I'm 52 now). I just might contact the right people and come visit Camp Quest for a day. As an old camp counselor and substitute teacher I think I'd fit right in. Best wishes to Camp Quest– I would love to be a camp counselor again at Camp Quest. When I was a young man and a closet beer-guzzling, cigarette-smoking Jesus freak I was a counselor in Christian camps. As I’ve said before, reading a good book about Jesus made a confirmed Atheist of me ( and I even quit drinking and smoking in my early 30s– I’m 52 now). I just might contact the right people and come visit Camp Quest for a day. As an old camp counselor and substitute teacher I think I’d fit right in.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82547 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82547 Go CQ! That would have been a really cool camp to go to when I was a kid. Go CQ! That would have been a really cool camp to go to when I was a kid.

]]> By: septos http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82550 septos Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82550 RedLilac<br /> How does the boy scout establishment deal with american Indian spirituality,they seem to like everything else. RedLilac
How does the boy scout establishment deal with american Indian spirituality,they seem to like everything else.

]]> By: RedLilac http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82576 RedLilac Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82576 Septoa: I?m not sure what you are asking. My son was denied entrance into the Boy Scouts of America because I was an outspoken Atheist around town. The Young Men?s Christian Association (YMCA) had a program called Indian Guides. I knew the Director of the local Y and he knew I was an Atheist, but it did not matter, they accept all children into the program. My son went to the activities with my Ex-husband who was an Agnostic that became a Christian again when he re-married. Whimp. I explained the Great Spirit to my son as nature, nothing supernatural. The Leaders said it was fine, he could believe or not believe what he wanted. Septoa: I?m not sure what you are asking. My son was denied entrance into the Boy Scouts of America because I was an outspoken Atheist around town. The Young Men?s Christian Association (YMCA) had a program called Indian Guides. I knew the Director of the local Y and he knew I was an Atheist, but it did not matter, they accept all children into the program. My son went to the activities with my Ex-husband who was an Agnostic that became a Christian again when he re-married. Whimp. I explained the Great Spirit to my son as nature, nothing supernatural. The Leaders said it was fine, he could believe or not believe what he wanted.

]]> By: septos http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-82592 septos Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-82592 RedLilac<br /> Thanks,and yes my question was confusing, my bad.I went to a boy scout meeting once,(35 years ago),the leader was one of my math teachers I suspected was gay,I should have stayed around. They were doing alot if Indian related activities.This board made me wander how they handle the "Great Spirit"stuff. RedLilac
Thanks,and yes my question was confusing, my bad.I went to a boy scout meeting once,(35 years ago),the leader was one of my math teachers I suspected was gay,I should have stayed around. They were doing alot if Indian related activities.This board made me wander how they handle the “Great Spirit”stuff.

]]> By: terry http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-83231 terry Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-83231 Hi all <br /> I see that the idea behind what you are trying to open the minds of our youth. But I?m concerned that you feel God isn?t real? I would like to correspond with you if I may. I don?t understand why some doubt the message of Love and forgiveness. Its not fare for me to judge, and I wont!<br /> I would find it an honor to speak with you if I may. <br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks <br /> Terry kjerrel@mchsi.com Hi all
I see that the idea behind what you are trying to open the minds of our youth. But I?m concerned that you feel God isn?t real? I would like to correspond with you if I may. I don?t understand why some doubt the message of Love and forgiveness. Its not fare for me to judge, and I wont!
I would find it an honor to speak with you if I may.

Thanks
Terry kjerrel@mchsi.com

]]> By: alatham http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-83232 alatham Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-83232 terry,<br /> <br /> The reason we doubt the existence of a deity is because we've never been exposed to a good reason to believe in the first place.<br /> <br /> Not to deter you, but I (for one) have not encountered a new argument for the existence of a deity in years. If you have one, then please present it.<br /> <br /> Just to give you a good place to begin, I think most atheists would agree with many of the points brought up in this article:<br /> http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/theistguide.html terry,

The reason we doubt the existence of a deity is because we’ve never been exposed to a good reason to believe in the first place.

Not to deter you, but I (for one) have not encountered a new argument for the existence of a deity in years. If you have one, then please present it.

Just to give you a good place to begin, I think most atheists would agree with many of the points brought up in this article:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/theistguide.html

]]> By: KnowledgeIsPower http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/10/camp_quest_grearing_up/comment-page-1#comment-83252 KnowledgeIsPower Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-83252 <blockquote>But I?m concerned that you feel God isn?t real?</blockquote><br /> I try not to think with my feelings, it can lead to awkward situtations.<br /> <blockquote>I don?t understand why some doubt the message of Love and forgiveness.</blockquote><br /> Yes, of course, leaving out the Divine retribution, total depravity, and the like certainly makes Christianity slightly less repulsive. I don't intend to be offensive, but 'Love and forgiveness' hardly encompasses christian theology.

But I?m concerned that you feel God isn?t real?

I try not to think with my feelings, it can lead to awkward situtations.

I don?t understand why some doubt the message of Love and forgiveness.

Yes, of course, leaving out the Divine retribution, total depravity, and the like certainly makes Christianity slightly less repulsive. I don’t intend to be offensive, but ‘Love and forgiveness’ hardly encompasses christian theology.

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