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		<title>By: mxracer652</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/08/picking_on_prostitution/comment-page-1#comment-82447</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about personal liberty, something the republicans despise when it&#039;s anti-baby jesus, and something the democrats despise when it&#039;s anti PC.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can go ahead and lump in the failure of the War on Drugs in there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about personal liberty, something the republicans despise when it&#8217;s anti-baby jesus, and something the democrats despise when it&#8217;s anti PC.</p>
<p>You can go ahead and lump in the failure of the War on Drugs in there too.</p>
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		<title>By: alexatheist</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/08/picking_on_prostitution/comment-page-1#comment-82448</link>
		<dc:creator>alexatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been saying for years that there is absolutely no justification for making prostitution illegal other than a religious or moral objection just like the objections to gay marriage.  If I meet some guy on the street and we have sex this is legal but if I pay for the sex somehow it magically becomes a criminal act.  Stupid, stupid, stupid and none of the government&#039;s goddamned business.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that there is absolutely no justification for making prostitution illegal other than a religious or moral objection just like the objections to gay marriage.  If I meet some guy on the street and we have sex this is legal but if I pay for the sex somehow it magically becomes a criminal act.  Stupid, stupid, stupid and none of the government&#8217;s goddamned business.</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/08/picking_on_prostitution/comment-page-1#comment-82451</link>
		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex&lt;br /&gt;
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It is stupid but then this is America - Land of the free (don&#039;t ever pay for it) and home of the brave (STD? Who me?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex</p>
<p>It is stupid but then this is America &#8211; Land of the free (don&#8217;t ever pay for it) and home of the brave (STD? Who me?).</p>
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		<title>By: billh</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/08/picking_on_prostitution/comment-page-1#comment-82454</link>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alex, I agree, and I am straight:)&lt;br /&gt;
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What you do with a willing partner, in just about every case, is your own business.&lt;br /&gt;
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Laws against prostitution is a religious law.  Sodomy laws are religious laws also.  Boy, have I broken some laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alex, I agree, and I am straight:)</p>
<p>What you do with a willing partner, in just about every case, is your own business.</p>
<p>Laws against prostitution is a religious law.  Sodomy laws are religious laws also.  Boy, have I broken some laws?</p>
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		<title>By: billh</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/05/08/picking_on_prostitution/comment-page-1#comment-82455</link>
		<dc:creator>billh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about religion getting into personal lives.  What second grader would watch Howard Stern.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://liz727.blogspot.com/2008/05/teacher-loses-job-for-bikini-image.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about religion getting into personal lives.  What second grader would watch Howard Stern.</p>
<p><a href="http://liz727.blogspot.com/2008/05/teacher-loses-job-for-bikini-image.html" rel="nofollow">http://liz727.blogspot.com/2008/05/teacher-loses-job-for-bikini-image.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: phreedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment from: alexatheist &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve been saying for years that there is absolutely no justification for making prostitution illegal other than a religious or moral objection&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather a short sighted view of things...&lt;br /&gt;
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Try reading up on &quot;retired&quot; prostitutes and tell remind me of how happy and well adjusted their lives become...&lt;br /&gt;
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Just like the gay community, prostitutes have a much shorter life expectancy then the rest of society.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can disagree with that statement all you want, but facts are facts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the other thread, I would imagine Dave would only report on republicans visiting a brothel...&lt;br /&gt;
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Dems can do whatever they want...after all, if the republicans are considered the party of morality, then the Dems MUST be the party of immorality...&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from: alexatheist </p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that there is absolutely no justification for making prostitution illegal other than a religious or moral objection</p></blockquote>
<p>Rather a short sighted view of things&#8230;</p>
<p>Try reading up on &#8220;retired&#8221; prostitutes and tell remind me of how happy and well adjusted their lives become&#8230;</p>
<p>Just like the gay community, prostitutes have a much shorter life expectancy then the rest of society.</p>
<p>You can disagree with that statement all you want, but facts are facts.</p>
<p>Following the other thread, I would imagine Dave would only report on republicans visiting a brothel&#8230;</p>
<p>Dems can do whatever they want&#8230;after all, if the republicans are considered the party of morality, then the Dems MUST be the party of immorality&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GT5463a</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that the anti-prostitution laws are religiously driven.  I also do not believe in the idea of a victimless crime -- no victim, no crime.  As long as both parties are consenting adults, I don&#039;t see the problem.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As far as prostitutes being unhappy and not living as long as the general population, I think that it is more than simply that they are prostitutes.  Little girls don&#039;t dream of growing up and being prostitutes, they end up being prostitutes because there is nowhere else to go.  The kind of person who would typically end up being a prostitute is going to be unhappy anyway because of a long series of bad decisions in their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that the anti-prostitution laws are religiously driven.  I also do not believe in the idea of a victimless crime &#8212; no victim, no crime.  As long as both parties are consenting adults, I don&#8217;t see the problem.  </p>
<p>As far as prostitutes being unhappy and not living as long as the general population, I think that it is more than simply that they are prostitutes.  Little girls don&#8217;t dream of growing up and being prostitutes, they end up being prostitutes because there is nowhere else to go.  The kind of person who would typically end up being a prostitute is going to be unhappy anyway because of a long series of bad decisions in their life.</p>
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		<title>By: jmyers8888</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
    H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.&#8221;<br />
    H. L. Mencken (1880 &#8211; 1956)</p>
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		<title>By: (: tom :)</title>
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		<description>I absolutely agree that prostitution is only a crime because of prudish, nosy religious idiots prying into other people&#039;s lives.  And that it should be considered a seperation of chruch and state issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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It has always struck me as being amazingly hypocrtitcal that, if you buy somebody dinner and a movie, and then have sex with them, it&#039;s not considered prostitution.  But if you just hand them the cash, then it is.  Unbelievable double standard - but that churchy sanction makes everything okey dokey.  Just another example of the complete lack of morals that religion instills in its&#039; follwers.&lt;br /&gt;
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It also seems to me that marrying somebody for teh secks (or whatever else you want from the relationship) is merely hiring a copnsiderably more expensive prostitute long term.  Prostitution is just an up-front agreement about the financial end of things.  If you marry them, and pay for their care, it&#039;s not prostitution.  But if you don&#039;t marry them, and still pay for their care, now you&#039;re engaging in an illegal act.&lt;br /&gt;
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I also see that the phreakish religiously insane moral scold who tosses out non-facts into the discussion has weighed in.  Without backing up his superstitious nonsense about life expectancies with, you know, facts and stuff.  Par for the course.  Watch him ignore this comment (like he has ignored pretty much everything every time he is challenged on his occult fairy tales) once again.  And did he just say that Dems must be the party of immorality, without any basis in reality upon which to make that statement?  After Diaper David Vitter and the rest of the Republican&#039;t corruption crew that has set new records for illegal and immoral behavior for the last seven years?  Nice set of blinders you gots there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree that prostitution is only a crime because of prudish, nosy religious idiots prying into other people&#8217;s lives.  And that it should be considered a seperation of chruch and state issue.</p>
<p>It has always struck me as being amazingly hypocrtitcal that, if you buy somebody dinner and a movie, and then have sex with them, it&#8217;s not considered prostitution.  But if you just hand them the cash, then it is.  Unbelievable double standard &#8211; but that churchy sanction makes everything okey dokey.  Just another example of the complete lack of morals that religion instills in its&#8217; follwers.</p>
<p>It also seems to me that marrying somebody for teh secks (or whatever else you want from the relationship) is merely hiring a copnsiderably more expensive prostitute long term.  Prostitution is just an up-front agreement about the financial end of things.  If you marry them, and pay for their care, it&#8217;s not prostitution.  But if you don&#8217;t marry them, and still pay for their care, now you&#8217;re engaging in an illegal act.</p>
<p>I also see that the phreakish religiously insane moral scold who tosses out non-facts into the discussion has weighed in.  Without backing up his superstitious nonsense about life expectancies with, you know, facts and stuff.  Par for the course.  Watch him ignore this comment (like he has ignored pretty much everything every time he is challenged on his occult fairy tales) once again.  And did he just say that Dems must be the party of immorality, without any basis in reality upon which to make that statement?  After Diaper David Vitter and the rest of the Republican&#8217;t corruption crew that has set new records for illegal and immoral behavior for the last seven years?  Nice set of blinders you gots there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alexatheist</title>
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		<description>DD&lt;br /&gt;
Sodomy laws are religious laws also.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thankfully, all remaining sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court a few years ago so gays and straights both are now free to engage in consensual oral and anal sex without fear of commiting a crime (yes sodomy laws covered straight people too).  Now if they would just do the same with laws against prostitution. &lt;br /&gt;
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phreedum&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Try reading up on &quot;retired&quot; prostitutes and tell remind me of how happy and well adjusted their lives become...&lt;br /&gt;
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Since when is protecting a person&#039;s perceived level of happiness a justification for infringing on their personal liberty?  the most miserable twat that I know of is a friend&#039;s mother who is a bat shit crazy  fundamentalist xian and is in a constant state of severe depression because she thinks that everyone she knows and cares about is hell bound so she spends her days wringing her hands and sighing and is a psychological mess.  Five minutes spent around this woman drains all the life out of a person and she looks to be about 90 years old when in fact she is 60.  Should we ban her right to be stupid and believe what she does? it certainly has destroyed her happiness.    &lt;br /&gt;
Phreedum you just don&#039;t grasp the concept of perrsonal freedom and not sticking your nose in other peoples business.  I have never used the services of a prostitute, I don&#039;t need too, but I don&#039;t want the US government getting involved in regulating consensual sexual acts between adults.  There is no secular justification for the prohibition of prostitution.  None.       &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Just like the gay community, prostitutes have a much shorter life expectancy then the rest of society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The statistics that you are quoting were provided by professional homophobe Paul Cameron (father of xian idiot Kirk Cameron) of the right wing Family Research Council (&quot;Gays should be exterminated&quot; and &quot;Gays should be forced to wear warning labels&quot;) who based his &quot;fact&quot; on obituaries in a gay newspaper during the worst years of the AIDS epidemic and have been totally debunked as bad science by the CDC among other organisations.  This &quot;fact&quot; that gay men die on average in their early 40s is reguritated over and over again by xians who, not surprisingly, never actually bother to check the facts so I have provided them here for you:  &lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.washblade.com/2005/6-17/view/actionalert/weird.cfm&lt;br /&gt;
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http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron_obit.html &lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,018.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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Phreedum, please explain to all of us here how much time you save by not actually doing any thinking for yourself and relying on others to do it for you.    &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DD<br />
Sodomy laws are religious laws also.</p>
<p>Thankfully, all remaining sodomy laws were struck down by the Supreme Court a few years ago so gays and straights both are now free to engage in consensual oral and anal sex without fear of commiting a crime (yes sodomy laws covered straight people too).  Now if they would just do the same with laws against prostitution. </p>
<p>phreedum</p>
<blockquote><p>Try reading up on &#8220;retired&#8221; prostitutes and tell remind me of how happy and well adjusted their lives become&#8230;</p>
<p>Since when is protecting a person&#8217;s perceived level of happiness a justification for infringing on their personal liberty?  the most miserable twat that I know of is a friend&#8217;s mother who is a bat shit crazy  fundamentalist xian and is in a constant state of severe depression because she thinks that everyone she knows and cares about is hell bound so she spends her days wringing her hands and sighing and is a psychological mess.  Five minutes spent around this woman drains all the life out of a person and she looks to be about 90 years old when in fact she is 60.  Should we ban her right to be stupid and believe what she does? it certainly has destroyed her happiness.    <br />
Phreedum you just don&#8217;t grasp the concept of perrsonal freedom and not sticking your nose in other peoples business.  I have never used the services of a prostitute, I don&#8217;t need too, but I don&#8217;t want the US government getting involved in regulating consensual sexual acts between adults.  There is no secular justification for the prohibition of prostitution.  None.       </p>
<blockquote><p>Just like the gay community, prostitutes have a much shorter life expectancy then the rest of society.</p></blockquote>
<p>The statistics that you are quoting were provided by professional homophobe Paul Cameron (father of xian idiot Kirk Cameron) of the right wing Family Research Council (&#8220;Gays should be exterminated&#8221; and &#8220;Gays should be forced to wear warning labels&#8221;) who based his &#8220;fact&#8221; on obituaries in a gay newspaper during the worst years of the AIDS epidemic and have been totally debunked as bad science by the CDC among other organisations.  This &#8220;fact&#8221; that gay men die on average in their early 40s is reguritated over and over again by xians who, not surprisingly, never actually bother to check the facts so I have provided them here for you:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washblade.com/2005/6-17/view/actionalert/weird.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.washblade.com/2005/6-17/view/actionalert/weird.cfm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron_obit.html" rel="nofollow">http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron_obit.html</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,018.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,018.htm</a></p>
<p>Phreedum, please explain to all of us here how much time you save by not actually doing any thinking for yourself and relying on others to do it for you.    </p></blockquote>
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