You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I’m telling you why:

a. Santa Clause is coming to town
b. Jesus is coming
c. None of the above

I’ve seen church fights that would make a bar-room brawl look tame. I’ve often wondered how church people can be so mean to each other, yet out-give secularist to charity.

The answer, I suppose, is a warped sense of accountability. They won’t cuss, drink or smoke ? but they’ll destroy one another with bickering.

But considering the activism: I know many evangelicals and nearly all have a keen sense of waging a culture war that makes me doubt there will be any reluctance to temper their activism.

Will the mythology crumble? Sorry, Dave, I gotta disagree. Michael Shermer has published some interesting research on the human psyche. It seems the proclivity to religion, UFOs and conspiracy theories is deeply embedded.

An Evangelical Manifesto” and is touted by the AP as a statement by “evangelicals” that “faith is now too political.” That isn’t all. The AP is claiming that it isn’t just Christian leaders in general that are saying this but that it is “conservative Christian leaders” who are standing up and denouncing politics in religion. But a little investigation proves that “conservative leaders” is not a very good description of those who have signed onto this “manifesto.” In fact, many of the most well-known conservative Christian leaders in the country have decided not to sign onto the “manifesto” and many more weren’t even consulted or included in the creation of this highly political document that pretends it stands against politics.

Sadly, this “manifesto” that is claiming to want to take religion back from its political involvement is itself a political statement, one that was created by people that refused to include Christian leaders from the right side of the political spectrum. This so-called “manifesto” seems to be just another attempt by the political left to undermine the devotion of Christians to the political right.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/05/03/ap-conservative-christians-manifesto-has-few-conservatives-invol

The consensus would seem to be that this actually is a case of a person with a clinical problem. One can hope that deleting his comments is best for him.

Thanks KA

One can hope that it works in some way to reduce the levels of crazy religiosity, but only time will tell.

Atheists in Belfast got used to being asked, “Yes, but are you a Catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist”, when the subject came up. Even though the people asking recognized the joke, they still expected an answer.

I wonder which offends phreedm more, atheists or liberals. Some (most?) people here must be doubly offensive to him.

The answer, I suppose, is a warped sense of accountability. They won’t cuss, drink or smoke ? but they’ll destroy one another with bickering.

Huh? They drink, smoke, cuss, and use illicit drugs as much if not more than the general population.

But considering the activism: I know many evangelicals and nearly all have a keen sense of waging a culture war that makes me doubt there will be any reluctance to temper their activism.

Yep. They aligned themselves with BushCo and the war and economy he wrought. These people will not temper their activism and I am counting on it. They will be forced to wear the BushCo albatross about their scrawny necks and they will fade, or rather be chased from, the political table.

Will the mythology crumble? Sorry, Dave, I gotta disagree. Michael Shermer has published some interesting research on the human psyche. It seems the proclivity to religion, UFOs and conspiracy theories is deeply embedded.

It really bothers me when I here people say this sort of stuff. Ever hear of a little place called the UK or France. The mythology will crumble in our lifetimes.

Gotta disagree.

Wishful thinking won’t displace what nature hath bestowed. Either God created the human mind with the ability to conceive evolution or evolution produced a mind that self-soothes itself with the imagery of the supernatural.

“In our lifetimes” is less than an exact term. Suffice it to say that such predictions were made in other lifetimes that have since expired.

Only time will tell if you are right. But with the Muslim invasion, Europe — one of the most secularized spots on the planet — is getting a second dose of religion.

When I visited China a few years ago, I was surprised to see the city I visited with a prominent Muslim population.

Not trying to be pessimistic; just honest.

Either God created the human mind with the ability to conceive evolution or evolution produced a mind that self-soothes itself with the imagery of the supernatural.

Nonsense. Approximately 70% of the French are nonbelievers. Clearly religious delusion is more a product of “nurture” than “nature”.

Only time will tell if you are right. But with the Muslim invasion, Europe — one of the most secularized spots on the planet — is getting a second dose of religion.

They will assimilate and adopt religion in the same proportions as presently exist. This is what has happened with hispanics in the US. There was no significant change in religious affinity with this influx of supposed Catholics. In fact religious affinity has steady been decreasing in the USA.

Not trying to be pessimistic; just honest.

Try harder.

Many of these teachers are religious nutters. They realize what they do by teaching evolution improperly. They’ll teach that evolution is purely random. They’ll call it “only a theory” and refuse to teach what a scientific theory really is. They’ll refuse to explain the difference between evolutionary theory and abiogenesis (a separate concept, but the one they actually fear). They’ll claim that all we have are fossils and that there are gaps all over the place in the fossil record – ignoring completely molecular biological evidence (which is already being used to clarify the origin of species).

With all that isn’t being taught, it’s no wonder that children find it so easy to reject evolution on their parents’/pastor’s say-so.

If we want the dream of an enlightened atheistic society to become a reality we need to separate atheist activism from politics. We need to educate the masses and teach children from an early age to think critically, before their brains are frozen into the superstitious patterns their parents have chosen for them. Once we’ve struck at the root of the problem, the weed that religion is will shrivel and die as it should have during the enlightenment.