Comments on: When Freedom goes too far – FLDS http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1 A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GodFree&Glad http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1/comment-page-1#comment-81828 GodFree&Glad Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81828 Amen!<br /> <br /> I saw Ben Stein on TV Sunday saying how terrible the State of Texas is and that these children should be given back to their parents because not one case of child abuse has been detected.<br /> <br /> Evidently Ben does not view impregnating children as abuse. Of course, one would not expect anyone who believes in Intelligent Design to be actually rational, I suppose. Amen!

I saw Ben Stein on TV Sunday saying how terrible the State of Texas is and that these children should be given back to their parents because not one case of child abuse has been detected.

Evidently Ben does not view impregnating children as abuse. Of course, one would not expect anyone who believes in Intelligent Design to be actually rational, I suppose.

]]> By: Seeker ☺ http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1/comment-page-1#comment-81830 Seeker ☺ Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81830 Pardon the rant, but to be consistent authorities should raid the nation's government schools. <br /> <br /> "...a major 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, nearly 10 percent of U.S. public school students reported having been targeted with sexual attention by school employees. Indeed, it has been claimed that sexual harassment and abuse by teachers is 100 times more frequent than abuse by<br /> priests." [copied]<br /> <br /> What's good for the goose...<br /> <br /> <br /> Pardon the rant, but to be consistent authorities should raid the nation’s government schools.

“…a major 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, nearly 10 percent of U.S. public school students reported having been targeted with sexual attention by school employees. Indeed, it has been claimed that sexual harassment and abuse by teachers is 100 times more frequent than abuse by
priests.” [copied]

What’s good for the goose…

]]> By: atheistmike http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1/comment-page-1#comment-81832 atheistmike Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81832 Seeker, are you going to raid the Air Force Academy, too? Seeker, are you going to raid the Air Force Academy, too?

]]> By: rna2dna http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1/comment-page-1#comment-81833 rna2dna Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81833 It has been claimed that 87% of older christians that work with children have sexual motivations. That claim has not been proven false, that is the Truth. It has been claimed that 87% of older christians that work with children have sexual motivations. That claim has not been proven false, that is the Truth.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/29/when_freedom_goes_too_far_flds_1/comment-page-1#comment-81836 what Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81836 Seeker<br /> <br /> I'm betting that you copied that lie from wikipedia or you read it directly on WorldNutDaily. If you got it from wikipedia then you conveniently left off the line which followed and reads:<br /> <blockquote><br /> However, it has been countered that some of these claims are groundless, either deliberate false accusations or misunderstandings resulting from misinterpretation of what is and is not permissable.</blockquote> If you got it from WorldNutDaily then shame on you. I just read the prevalence section of the report cited in WorldNut (not a study as claimed by WorldNut but rather a review of a half dozen indirect studies). This quote was notable:<br /> <blockquote><br /> As a group, these studies present a wide range of estimates of the percentage of U.S. students subject to sexual misconduct by school staff and vary from 3.7 to 50.3 percent </blockquote> Anytime you see stats that vary that much a huge red flag should go up emblazoned with the letters BS.<br /> <br /> These kids in the FLDS compound were raped and of course any reasonable person would see that as being severely in contrast to sexual harassment in general.<br /> <br /> Lock the goose and the gander both up. Why do you defend one by misdirecting to the other? Seeker

I’m betting that you copied that lie from wikipedia or you read it directly on WorldNutDaily. If you got it from wikipedia then you conveniently left off the line which followed and reads:

However, it has been countered that some of these claims are groundless, either deliberate false accusations or misunderstandings resulting from misinterpretation of what is and is not permissable.

If you got it from WorldNutDaily then shame on you. I just read the prevalence section of the report cited in WorldNut (not a study as claimed by WorldNut but rather a review of a half dozen indirect studies). This quote was notable:

As a group, these studies present a wide range of estimates of the percentage of U.S. students subject to sexual misconduct by school staff and vary from 3.7 to 50.3 percent

Anytime you see stats that vary that much a huge red flag should go up emblazoned with the letters BS.

These kids in the FLDS compound were raped and of course any reasonable person would see that as being severely in contrast to sexual harassment in general.

Lock the goose and the gander both up. Why do you defend one by misdirecting to the other?

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