Comments on: Divorce, Unwed Parents May Cost Billions http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:45:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: smacky15 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81061 smacky15 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81061 Beautifully said and yet the general public and the media will never hear how all of this data has been injected into their thoughts by these religious groups. Hey, at least as an Atheist I have better stats of remaining married. Beautifully said and yet the general public and the media will never hear how all of this data has been injected into their thoughts by these religious groups. Hey, at least as an Atheist I have better stats of remaining married.

]]> By: atomictesting http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81064 atomictesting Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81064 It is likely that religious people have trouble staying married because, deep down, each suspects that the other is completely <i>nuts</i>!<br /> <br /> We atheists don't suffer from this particular problem. While certain individuals among us might actually be nuts, it's clear that our disbelief in deities is not a contributing factor to the condition. After seeing holy rollers, snake handlers, and rabid posters on this blog, I've found that I cannot extend the same expectation of sanity by default to the religious. It is likely that religious people have trouble staying married because, deep down, each suspects that the other is completely nuts!

We atheists don’t suffer from this particular problem. While certain individuals among us might actually be nuts, it’s clear that our disbelief in deities is not a contributing factor to the condition. After seeing holy rollers, snake handlers, and rabid posters on this blog, I’ve found that I cannot extend the same expectation of sanity by default to the religious.

]]> By: nissimlevy http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81066 nissimlevy Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81066 Many or some religious people get married by emotional bursts, arrangements, obligations, same faith unions, divine wills, and not by feelings and responsibility, I think. Many or some religious people get married by emotional bursts, arrangements, obligations, same faith unions, divine wills, and not by feelings and responsibility, I think.

]]> By: tyro http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81069 tyro Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81069 My partner and I are trying to conceive and we have no intention of getting married. We have secure jobs, never used welfare or unemployment insurance and are in a happy, loving relationship. We just don't see any reason to get married (don't like the woman-as-property motif, don't like the religious aspects, don't like the consumerism, don't like the idea that ceremonial promises count for more than our genuine commitment). Anyone want to tell me how we're costing anyone anything?<br /> <br /> I think the key point in the article was:<br /> <br /> <blockquote>Scafidi's calculations were based on the assumption that households headed by a single female have relatively high poverty rates, leading to higher spending on welfare, health care, criminal justice and education for those raised in the disadvantaged homes. </blockquote><br /> <br /> This has nothing to do with marriage. If Scafidi was interested in solving the problem rather than pushing his ideology, then he would advocate for better family planning and access to abortions for a start. My partner and I are trying to conceive and we have no intention of getting married. We have secure jobs, never used welfare or unemployment insurance and are in a happy, loving relationship. We just don’t see any reason to get married (don’t like the woman-as-property motif, don’t like the religious aspects, don’t like the consumerism, don’t like the idea that ceremonial promises count for more than our genuine commitment). Anyone want to tell me how we’re costing anyone anything?

I think the key point in the article was:

Scafidi’s calculations were based on the assumption that households headed by a single female have relatively high poverty rates, leading to higher spending on welfare, health care, criminal justice and education for those raised in the disadvantaged homes.

This has nothing to do with marriage. If Scafidi was interested in solving the problem rather than pushing his ideology, then he would advocate for better family planning and access to abortions for a start.

]]> By: dsilverman http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81070 dsilverman Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81070 I personally think this has to do with premarital sex, or lack thereof. I know of several people who waited to have sex, and may have gotten married earlier than they should have in order to have sex.<br /> <br /> I am PRO-premarital sex for this reason. Adults should have lots of safe sex before marriage, so they feel no, ummm... "pressure" to get married. I personally think this has to do with premarital sex, or lack thereof. I know of several people who waited to have sex, and may have gotten married earlier than they should have in order to have sex.

I am PRO-premarital sex for this reason. Adults should have lots of safe sex before marriage, so they feel no, ummm… “pressure” to get married.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81071 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81071 Isn't it interesting that Massachusettes, known as the most liberal of states and the only state with gay marrriage, has the lowest divorce rate in the nation while the conservative and pious states of Arkansas and Oklahoma have the second and third highest? (Nevada was number one but that's really no surprise). So much for the theory that gay marriage destroys hetero marriages. Isn’t it interesting that Massachusettes, known as the most liberal of states and the only state with gay marrriage, has the lowest divorce rate in the nation while the conservative and pious states of Arkansas and Oklahoma have the second and third highest? (Nevada was number one but that’s really no surprise). So much for the theory that gay marriage destroys hetero marriages.

]]> By: flanonblvr http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81072 flanonblvr Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81072 so if one looks at divorce rates and prison population, it is obvious that atheists on the whole set and maintain higher moral and ethical standards for ourselves than xtians. <br /> <br /> remember these are FACTS so our xtian friends will not accept them since their core beliefs deal in fantasies. sad....<br /> <br /> so if one looks at divorce rates and prison population, it is obvious that atheists on the whole set and maintain higher moral and ethical standards for ourselves than xtians.

remember these are FACTS so our xtian friends will not accept them since their core beliefs deal in fantasies. sad….

]]> By: mxracer652 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81073 mxracer652 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81073 Wouldn't the simplest solution be to end entitlement programs? Wouldn’t the simplest solution be to end entitlement programs?

]]> By: karen http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81074 karen Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81074 <blockquote>advocating more government action to bolster marriages.</blockquote><br /> <br /> The government has no business being involved in marriages, other than to offer a paper saying you are married, or another one saying you are no longer married. The government is not a counseling service. If Christians can't stay married with the services already in place, maybe they should give more thought to getting married in the first place.

advocating more government action to bolster marriages.

The government has no business being involved in marriages, other than to offer a paper saying you are married, or another one saying you are no longer married. The government is not a counseling service. If Christians can’t stay married with the services already in place, maybe they should give more thought to getting married in the first place.

]]> By: pnuhn@gampac.org http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/16/divorce_unwed_parents_may_cost_billions/comment-page-1#comment-81075 pnuhn@gampac.org Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-81075 mxracer652 is right up there with Clinton and Bush. Clinton ended entitlement to welfare and Bush cut food stamps to families with more than two children, letting the rest die of starvation.<br /> <br /> Oh yea, food costs are soaring worldwide. <br /> <br /> Let's do lunch sometime. mxracer652 is right up there with Clinton and Bush. Clinton ended entitlement to welfare and Bush cut food stamps to families with more than two children, letting the rest die of starvation.

Oh yea, food costs are soaring worldwide.

Let’s do lunch sometime.

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