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	<title>Comments on: Sun Fries Brain cells in Florida &#8212; origin &#8220;alternatives&#8221; OK&#8217;d?</title>
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		<title>By: lennyr</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80766</link>
		<dc:creator>lennyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the totally blatant religious &quot;colleges&quot; and universities do accept ID, although that fact doesn&#039;t affect the point that you made.  After all, by their own admission, they are not really on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the totally blatant religious &#8220;colleges&#8221; and universities do accept ID, although that fact doesn&#8217;t affect the point that you made.  After all, by their own admission, they are not really on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: dsilverman</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80768</link>
		<dc:creator>dsilverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone dig out what the judge told Behe at the trial in Dover?  I think it was really good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can anyone dig out what the judge told Behe at the trial in Dover?  I think it was really good</p>
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		<title>By: TheWhollyNone</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80770</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWhollyNone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This being Florida, I would expect that the Scientologists might be offering their own theories of the origin of life on this planet to compete with the Christian version.  I figure that they will take over Florida just about the time that most of the state is under water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This being Florida, I would expect that the Scientologists might be offering their own theories of the origin of life on this planet to compete with the Christian version.  I figure that they will take over Florida just about the time that most of the state is under water.</p>
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		<title>By: drchris06</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80771</link>
		<dc:creator>drchris06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussing other STORIES about the origin of life in high school is fine: in social studies class (comparative world religions, world history), literature classes (to understand biblical allegory) - but these stories don&#039;t belong in SCIENCE class.  Why do these American fundies (and it&#039;s nearly 100% an American issue, as far as the developed world is concerned) have keep trying to stick these unscientific stories into %$&amp;@# science class?!??!?&lt;br /&gt;
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cjn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussing other STORIES about the origin of life in high school is fine: in social studies class (comparative world religions, world history), literature classes (to understand biblical allegory) &#8211; but these stories don&#8217;t belong in SCIENCE class.  Why do these American fundies (and it&#8217;s nearly 100% an American issue, as far as the developed world is concerned) have keep trying to stick these unscientific stories into %$&amp;@# science class?!??!?</p>
<p>cjn</p>
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		<title>By: &#9787; Seeker</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80775</link>
		<dc:creator>&#9787; Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning the mere mention of alternative origin concepts smacks of academic intolerance and plays into the hands of creationists; Ben Stein&#039;s movie is a classic example. &lt;br /&gt;
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Keep in mind that creationists are as convinced as evolutionists. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning the mere mention of alternative origin concepts smacks of academic intolerance and plays into the hands of creationists; Ben Stein&#8217;s movie is a classic example. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that creationists are as convinced as evolutionists. </p>
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		<title>By: phreedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh...I see the &quot;thought police&quot; are at it again...&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, let&#039;s keep radical ideas out of the educational system of America...&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&#039;s prevent our teachers from thinking &quot;outside of the box&quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, let&#039;s teach our kids that certain types of thinking is not acceptable in America...&lt;br /&gt;
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You&#039;re pathetic...you&#039;re so fearful of those who don&#039;t think exactly as you do...&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Many people wrongly believe Galileo proved heliocentricity. He could not answer the strongest argument against it, which had been made nearly two thousand years earlier by Aristotle: If heliocentrism were true, then there would be observable parallax shifts in the stars? positions as the earth moved in its orbit around the sun. &lt;strong&gt;However, given the technology of Galileo?s time, no such shifts in their positions could be observed. It would require more sensitive measuring equipment than was available in Galileo?s day to document the existence of these shifts,&lt;/strong&gt; given the stars? great distance. Until then, the available evidence suggested that the stars were fixed in their positions relative to the earth, and, thus, that the earth and the stars were not moving in space?only the sun, moon, and planets were.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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You are no different then those who feared Galileo...&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally believe the new movie &quot;Expelled&quot; will show the world how a minority is preventing the full flow of ideas in our educational system...&lt;br /&gt;
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It will be a sleeper the same way Passion was....&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230;I see the &#8220;thought police&#8221; are at it again&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s keep radical ideas out of the educational system of America&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s prevent our teachers from thinking &#8220;outside of the box&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s teach our kids that certain types of thinking is not acceptable in America&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re pathetic&#8230;you&#8217;re so fearful of those who don&#8217;t think exactly as you do&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Many people wrongly believe Galileo proved heliocentricity. He could not answer the strongest argument against it, which had been made nearly two thousand years earlier by Aristotle: If heliocentrism were true, then there would be observable parallax shifts in the stars? positions as the earth moved in its orbit around the sun. <strong>However, given the technology of Galileo?s time, no such shifts in their positions could be observed. It would require more sensitive measuring equipment than was available in Galileo?s day to document the existence of these shifts,</strong> given the stars? great distance. Until then, the available evidence suggested that the stars were fixed in their positions relative to the earth, and, thus, that the earth and the stars were not moving in space?only the sun, moon, and planets were.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are no different then those who feared Galileo&#8230;</p>
<p>I personally believe the new movie &#8220;Expelled&#8221; will show the world how a minority is preventing the full flow of ideas in our educational system&#8230;</p>
<p>It will be a sleeper the same way Passion was&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: cry4turtles</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80779</link>
		<dc:creator>cry4turtles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody on this site STILL fears Galileo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody on this site STILL fears Galileo.</p>
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		<title>By: Boise Jim</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80781</link>
		<dc:creator>Boise Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, phreaky, how would you feel if all of the sudden there was a law that stated every xian church must have a lecture by an evolutionary biologist every Sunday morning?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you really give that thought, and you are honest about it, you might just understand why we (and anyone else who cherishes education) are so pissed off about this (and all the other attempts by the ignorant and uneducated).&lt;br /&gt;
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Since I directed a question at you, I don&#039;t expect an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, phreaky, how would you feel if all of the sudden there was a law that stated every xian church must have a lecture by an evolutionary biologist every Sunday morning?</p>
<p>If you really give that thought, and you are honest about it, you might just understand why we (and anyone else who cherishes education) are so pissed off about this (and all the other attempts by the ignorant and uneducated).</p>
<p>Since I directed a question at you, I don&#8217;t expect an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>TXatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get really annoyed when they call ID a theory.  A theory is a hypothesis supported by facts.  There are no facts supporting ID. If this does go through I hope they do the same thing they try to do with evolution and insist they &quot;show the weaknesses of the theory&quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Think outside the box?  In other words, change the definition of science/hypothesis/fact/observable. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get really annoyed when they call ID a theory.  A theory is a hypothesis supported by facts.  There are no facts supporting ID. If this does go through I hope they do the same thing they try to do with evolution and insist they &#8220;show the weaknesses of the theory&#8221;. </p>
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Think outside the box?  In other words, change the definition of science/hypothesis/fact/observable.</p>
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		<title>By: TXatheist</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/10/sun_fries_brain_cells_in_florida_origin_/comment-page-1#comment-80783</link>
		<dc:creator>TXatheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, got some good news.  Monique Davis apologized to Rob Sherman.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.wbbm780.com/&lt;br /&gt;
Lawmaker-Apologizes-For&lt;br /&gt;
-Comments-Against-Atheist/1980701</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, got some good news.  Monique Davis apologized to Rob Sherman.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wbbm780.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbbm780.com/</a><br />
Lawmaker-Apologizes-For<br />
-Comments-Against-Atheist/1980701</p>
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