Comments on: Atheist Dad sues Catholic Mom http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom A Blog of Atheist Thought Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:01:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: 3E8 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80525 3E8 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80525 I can't imagine choosing a theist as a life partner. How can you be a team if you don't share a common perception of the one most important thing in life - our very perception of existence itself? I can’t imagine choosing a theist as a life partner. How can you be a team if you don’t share a common perception of the one most important thing in life – our very perception of existence itself?

]]> By: FlyingWeasel http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80526 FlyingWeasel Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80526 my first instinct is to let the kid decide, since his parents aren't in agreement.<br /> <br /> his parents really shouldn't be playing tug-o-war over him. my first instinct is to let the kid decide, since his parents aren’t in agreement.

his parents really shouldn’t be playing tug-o-war over him.

]]> By: Jesus-Ernesto http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80528 Jesus-Ernesto Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80528 Gotta link? Gotta link?

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80529 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80529 Since both schools are considered to be academically equivalent I think the kid should have the say where he goes which, in this case, is the catholic school. <br /> I'm sure the courts will rule in favour of the mother since the US court sytem is very prejudiced against father's rights. <br /> <br /> Since both schools are considered to be academically equivalent I think the kid should have the say where he goes which, in this case, is the catholic school.
I’m sure the courts will rule in favour of the mother since the US court sytem is very prejudiced against father’s rights.

]]> By: Jesus-Ernesto http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80530 Jesus-Ernesto Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80530 found it<br /> <br /> http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/368752.html<br /> <br /> found it

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/story/368752.html

]]> By: LightningLucci http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80532 LightningLucci Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80532 This is the link to the article sourced in the blog entry:<br /> <br /> http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/NEWS01/804060502&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL<br /> <br /> I have one objection to Stenger's (a law professor) statement:<br /> <br /> <blockquote>"If the father were to win, it would put the authority of the court against religion, which both the federal and state constitution forbid," Stenger said.<br /> <br /> "It could be called establishing atheism."</blockquote><br /> <br /> No, it would not be establishing atheism. It would be establishing <i>neutrality</i> on the issue. If the father was Protestant, and all other facts remained the same, then by forcing a public school, would the court be establishing <i>Protestantism</i>?<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> Anyways, I think the student's choice trumps the parents' choice in this case. If this were a custody hearing, the court would likely let the teenager decide which parent had primary custody. If so, he should be able to pick his own school.<br /> <br /> However, why did the court choose the religious school when the kid was younger? Minus extraneous factors, should the "neutral" school be the choice? This is the link to the article sourced in the blog entry:

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/NEWS01/804060502&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

I have one objection to Stenger’s (a law professor) statement:

“If the father were to win, it would put the authority of the court against religion, which both the federal and state constitution forbid,” Stenger said.

“It could be called establishing atheism.”

No, it would not be establishing atheism. It would be establishing neutrality on the issue. If the father was Protestant, and all other facts remained the same, then by forcing a public school, would the court be establishing Protestantism?

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Anyways, I think the student’s choice trumps the parents’ choice in this case. If this were a custody hearing, the court would likely let the teenager decide which parent had primary custody. If so, he should be able to pick his own school.

However, why did the court choose the religious school when the kid was younger? Minus extraneous factors, should the “neutral” school be the choice?

]]> By: FlyingWeasel http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80533 FlyingWeasel Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80533 <blockquote>No, it would not be establishing atheism. It would be establishing neutrality on the issue. If the father was Protestant, and all other facts remained the same, then by forcing a public school, would the court be establishing Protestantism?</blockquote><br /> <br /> you're right. they <i>should</i> be able to ignore the religious affiliation or lack thereof of each school when ruling on this case. <br /> <br /> but you know they wont. =/<br /> <br /> it doesn't really matter in <i>this</i> case because the kids a teenager and should be able to decide for himself which school he wants to attend, but in future cases they should be able to ignore which parent wants the kid to go to which school, and base the determination on only two things: 1) is one school plainly superior in its academics 2)is there reason one parent's preference should trump the other's. (for instance, if one parent is estranged and has not been involved in raising the child up to this point)<br />

No, it would not be establishing atheism. It would be establishing neutrality on the issue. If the father was Protestant, and all other facts remained the same, then by forcing a public school, would the court be establishing Protestantism?

you’re right. they should be able to ignore the religious affiliation or lack thereof of each school when ruling on this case.

but you know they wont. =/

it doesn’t really matter in this case because the kids a teenager and should be able to decide for himself which school he wants to attend, but in future cases they should be able to ignore which parent wants the kid to go to which school, and base the determination on only two things: 1) is one school plainly superior in its academics 2)is there reason one parent’s preference should trump the other’s. (for instance, if one parent is estranged and has not been involved in raising the child up to this point)

]]> By: FlyingWeasel http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80534 FlyingWeasel Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80534 also, you'll notice that Stenger hasn't complained that giving the authority of the court to the mother would be establishing catholocism. also, you’ll notice that Stenger hasn’t complained that giving the authority of the court to the mother would be establishing catholocism.

]]> By: libraryguy http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80536 libraryguy Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80536 Note there are no trade-ins when you become an atheist and your wife is still a believer... Note there are no trade-ins when you become an atheist and your wife is still a believer…

]]> By: TXatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2008/04/07/atheist_dad_sues_catholic_mom/comment-page-1#comment-80537 TXatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80537 It's not so hard if your wife is "spiritual" and never says god created everything. Yes, we had the discussion on one of our first dates. I plan to explain to my kids what many faiths believe but I plan to explain it as a "belief" and god is an idea. It’s not so hard if your wife is “spiritual” and never says god created everything. Yes, we had the discussion on one of our first dates. I plan to explain to my kids what many faiths believe but I plan to explain it as a “belief” and god is an idea.

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