The players: Dad. David Ryan, atheist. Plaintiff, represented by Ed Kagin of American Atheists. Mom. Susin Bisig, Catholic (That’s her in the photo, wrapping herself around the cross, it would appear.) Kid. Michael. The question: Where does Michael go to school, a Catholic School where both he and his mom want him to go, or to an academically equivalent public school, where his dad wants him to go?This is a case being decided in Kentucky and pertaining to state constitutional law regarding religion. The case was effectively decided several years ago when the same issue came up in grade school, and the judge sent the family away telling them to keep the kid in Catholic school and wait until high school to make this decision. Again, the usual gambit: The religion presumption, the religious fall back, the religious default.
The writer goes on to say this is why Atheists should not marry believers — a statement with which I wholeheartedly disagree. We can marry theists, but only the SANE ones, which I admit may not be the majority. The real issue is that when marrying theists, have a discussion about how you will raise your kids, and get nailed and firm, BEFORE you plan the wedding.
Mmm, cheesecake.
Who said atheism never gives you anything to celebrate?
karen – I wish I could say that I have the same type of experience within my office. But the christian types are very much into the using company time and resources for their religious purposes, and I get into trouble when I point out things like that. Which is one of the main reasons that I have problems with the religiously insane polluting the discussion here. You can’t even avoid having to deal with their delusional nonsense on a blog by atheists for atheists…
karen is exactly right. phreedm is here to antagonize us for the most part. so try and not get caught up in what he says but just needle him now and then so he knows that we appreciate his pitiful contributions to the site.
tom, i’m with you on having to deal with his continual pollution of the site. but he doesn’t ever get the hint and go away, because he is filled with hate for AA and atheists. isn’t hate one of the good xtian values that his god teaches.
Yeah (: tom
, this was certainly an anomaly, which was why I was so excited by it. My lapsed-RCC therapist (who voraciously supports my atheism) recommended this lawyer to me, and I see now that it was for more reason than that he is an excellent attorney.
There are few other havens of free-thought in this heavily-studded bible belt area. We should have a jeebus factor index, akin to the pollen index for allergies.
As for the blog pollution, we have had no luck in the time I have been here-since 06- in getting folks to just ignore the 4F factor. The other trolls come and go, but we can’t seem to reach a consensus on banning him or paying him no heed. He leads a church youth group and I’m sure he makes up tall tales from his exploits here to regale them with about how he is in a constant battle with the big bad atheists. Of course if they ever visited here, they could witness how weak his arguments are and how he never answers any questions. He’s still avoiding “Is this a white man’s nation?” from months and months ago. You might want to add that to your collective response that you give him regularly.
sayonara and karen, thanks for the comments.
I’m thinking that we could start a phreedm corps with the express purpose of haranguing those who think they have the right to spew their religiously insane kimchee without opposition around here.
I did not know that he was also polluting young children’s minds, and seducing them into his deviant lifestyle. I wonder how many of them will follow in his footsteps, and engage in mindless ranting on the nearest available internets soap box?
He still can’t provide any proof to back up any of his delusional fantasies. But he has provided a considerable amount of material here that shows how clueless and irrational the religiously insane are. And he’s been an inspiration for quite a few to re-evaulate, reconsider, and renounce their superstitious heritage (that I personally know of – there’s probably more out there who didn’t email me, thank me for taking a stand against this mental midget, and tell me that his superstitious raving caused them to reconsider their faith). Even (especially?) when deeply in the throes of delusional occult madness, religious phreakshows like this help advance atheism. I wonder if he’s aware of how much his comments help us? Maybe he’s a plant* after all…
* – not the kind that grows in soil – that would be a step up, evolution-wise, from his current state.