Comments on: Do you support homeschooling? http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling A Blog of Atheist Thought Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:39:58 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: vjack http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80051 vjack Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80051 No kids here, but I do live in the Southern bible Belt and can certainly understand why homeschooling would be appealing to some progressives. At the same time, I support the California requirement because it makes sure the parent knows enough to teach. The idea that one is qualified to education children simply because of one's age is absurd. Nobody wants the meth-heads in my community raising children, much less teaching them! No kids here, but I do live in the Southern bible Belt and can certainly understand why homeschooling would be appealing to some progressives. At the same time, I support the California requirement because it makes sure the parent knows enough to teach. The idea that one is qualified to education children simply because of one’s age is absurd. Nobody wants the meth-heads in my community raising children, much less teaching them!

]]> By: ☻ Seeker http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80054 ☻ Seeker Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80054 <blockquote>Court of Appeal Grants Petition for Re-hearing<br /> <br /> On March 25, the California Court of Appeal granted a motion for rehearing in the 'In re Rachel L.' case--the controversial decision <br /> which purported to ban all homeschooling in that state unless the <br /> parents held a teaching license qualifying them to teach in public <br /> schools.<br /> <br /> http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/CA/200803261.asp</blockquote><br /> <br /> ? Considering that the academic of homeschoolers excels that of government school students, the question should be: Who should be certifying whom?<br /> <br /> ? Most readers of this blog will appreciate Neal Boortz views on relgiion, you will also appreciate his enlightened views of separation of school and state.<br /> <br /> http://boortz.com/more/rules_kids_wont_learn_in_school.html<br /> <br /> ? Free thinkers will appreciate the views of Peter Brimelow in Worm In The Apple: How The Teacher Unions Are Destroying American Education<br /> <br /> http://books.google.com/books?id=V8ajlBalAkEC&dq=worm+in+the+apple+how+the+teacher+unions+are+destroying+american+education&pg=PP1&ots=lrxwrki3sr&sig=bQZ-I_mBKzFh_a4XnZp4UGGR6TM&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPND,HPND:2006-26,HPND:en&q=Worm+In+The+Apple:+How+The+Teacher+Unions+Are+Destroying+American+Education&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail<br /> <br /> ? For more on Separation of School and state:<br /> <br /> http://www.schoolandstate.org/home.htm<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />

Court of Appeal Grants Petition for Re-hearing

On March 25, the California Court of Appeal granted a motion for rehearing in the ‘In re Rachel L.’ case–the controversial decision
which purported to ban all homeschooling in that state unless the
parents held a teaching license qualifying them to teach in public
schools.

http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/CA/200803261.asp

? Considering that the academic of homeschoolers excels that of government school students, the question should be: Who should be certifying whom?

? Most readers of this blog will appreciate Neal Boortz views on relgiion, you will also appreciate his enlightened views of separation of school and state.

http://boortz.com/more/rules_kids_wont_learn_in_school.html

? Free thinkers will appreciate the views of Peter Brimelow in Worm In The Apple: How The Teacher Unions Are Destroying American Education

http://books.google.com/books?id=V8ajlBalAkEC&dq=worm+in+the+apple+how+the+teacher+unions+are+destroying+american+education&pg=PP1&ots=lrxwrki3sr&sig=bQZ-I_mBKzFh_a4XnZp4UGGR6TM&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPND,HPND:2006-26,HPND:en&q=Worm+In+The+Apple:+How+The+Teacher+Unions+Are+Destroying+American+Education&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail

? For more on Separation of School and state:

http://www.schoolandstate.org/home.htm

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80055 Rusty Shackleford Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80055 Sure, I don't see why rational people wouldn't support having the choice of homeschooling. Just because a lot of nuts do it doesn't mean it's only good for nuts. Sure, I don’t see why rational people wouldn’t support having the choice of homeschooling. Just because a lot of nuts do it doesn’t mean it’s only good for nuts.

]]> By: brad14146 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80056 brad14146 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80056 I have two children and thankfully can afford to have them in private school. If I coudn't, they'd be home schooled. There's not a situation where I'd place them in a government school. <br /> <br /> This decision bothers me a bit, but I guess liberals feel all kids should be government educated. Hmmm didn't Marx and Hitler have some certain thoughts about government and education. <br /> <br /> I have two children and thankfully can afford to have them in private school. If I coudn’t, they’d be home schooled. There’s not a situation where I’d place them in a government school.

This decision bothers me a bit, but I guess liberals feel all kids should be government educated. Hmmm didn’t Marx and Hitler have some certain thoughts about government and education.

]]> By: mxracer652 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80057 mxracer652 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80057 As Seeker has already stated, homeschool kids are, on average, more intelligent than kids educated in public schools.<br /> <br /> We're supposed to be rational, we should only care about results and evidence. As Seeker has already stated, homeschool kids are, on average, more intelligent than kids educated in public schools.

We’re supposed to be rational, we should only care about results and evidence.

]]> By: baresht1 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80059 baresht1 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80059 I don't have kids and I don't know the details of homeschooling. Are homeschooled children required to take the same "no child left behind" tests? Are children in non-public schools required?<br /> <br /> How are children measured to determine which (or if any) system is better or even adequate? <br /> From there, are the teachers to take the credit/blame?<br /> I don’t have kids and I don’t know the details of homeschooling. Are homeschooled children required to take the same “no child left behind” tests? Are children in non-public schools required?

How are children measured to determine which (or if any) system is better or even adequate?
From there, are the teachers to take the credit/blame?

]]> By: billh http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80061 billh Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80061 I am a father and support home schooling ONLY if the kids have a monitored set of state tests each year that prove they are getting an education, especially in the sciences. If they fail, then it would have to be mandatory that they go to a public school the following year. I am a father and support home schooling ONLY if the kids have a monitored set of state tests each year that prove they are getting an education, especially in the sciences. If they fail, then it would have to be mandatory that they go to a public school the following year.

]]> By: baresht1 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80064 baresht1 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80064 brad14146,<br /> <br /> I would consider myself to be liberal. However, I want the government to do the least amount. I think children should be educated in what ever manner works effectively for them. But, of course, that is the problem with everything. What is effective? What is the purpose of education? Are we trying to create future employees, future christians, future liberals, future fill-in-the-blank. Everyone has an agenda, except perhaps, the children.<br /> <br /> Define the problem, agree to metrics and time scale, and we can all agree on the results... Maybe.. brad14146,

I would consider myself to be liberal. However, I want the government to do the least amount. I think children should be educated in what ever manner works effectively for them. But, of course, that is the problem with everything. What is effective? What is the purpose of education? Are we trying to create future employees, future christians, future liberals, future fill-in-the-blank. Everyone has an agenda, except perhaps, the children.

Define the problem, agree to metrics and time scale, and we can all agree on the results… Maybe..

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80065 Rusty Shackleford Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80065 <blockquote>This decision bothers me a bit, but I guess liberals feel all kids should be government educated.</blockquote>I'm glad you aren't homeschooling your children because it appears you wouldn't be up to the job, at least in the reading comprehension department. In your blind rush to smear the caricature you have of "liberals" you failed to realize that the decision doesn't require children to go to "government schools."

This decision bothers me a bit, but I guess liberals feel all kids should be government educated.

I’m glad you aren’t homeschooling your children because it appears you wouldn’t be up to the job, at least in the reading comprehension department. In your blind rush to smear the caricature you have of “liberals” you failed to realize that the decision doesn’t require children to go to “government schools.”

]]> By: pnuhn@gampac.org http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/31/do_you_support_homeschooling/comment-page-1#comment-80066 pnuhn@gampac.org Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-80066 We have seen time and again that in Texas and other states, the teaching of science is no longer being allowed and neither is health for children, i.e., abstinence for sex ed. So if you can't afford private education, what can you do for your child?<br /> <br /> I doubt a homeschooled child taught real sex ed. or darwinism is going to pass a Bush education test since it will want some damn foolishness on genesis, not reality.<br /> <br /> This of course not count for those in Massachusetts or other states where they try to teach reality.<br /> <br /> As for the effectiveness of homeschooling, in those instances where the child is taken out of public education because of mostly racists reasons masquerading as religious, the test results do not measure up to the public education system. We have seen time and again that in Texas and other states, the teaching of science is no longer being allowed and neither is health for children, i.e., abstinence for sex ed. So if you can’t afford private education, what can you do for your child?

I doubt a homeschooled child taught real sex ed. or darwinism is going to pass a Bush education test since it will want some damn foolishness on genesis, not reality.

This of course not count for those in Massachusetts or other states where they try to teach reality.

As for the effectiveness of homeschooling, in those instances where the child is taken out of public education because of mostly racists reasons masquerading as religious, the test results do not measure up to the public education system.

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