Comments on: The Fitna — Islam and the Netherlands http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands A Blog of Atheist Thought Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:59:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: david715 http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79924 david715 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79924 Un f*uckin believable Un f*uckin believable

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79926 Rusty Shackleford Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79926 For anyone squeamish about watching it, the Wikipedia entry on the film (under "Fitna (film)") describes the events it depicts. For anyone squeamish about watching it, the Wikipedia entry on the film (under “Fitna (film)”) describes the events it depicts.

]]> By: Becksi http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79927 Becksi Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79927 Unfortunately, people will probably just condemn the movie...<br /> <br /> Critical and moderately provocative film about Islam? Racist! Facistic! Hate-speech!<br /> <br /> ...and be sympathetic towards Islam.<br /> <br /> Executing those who never had a real chance of choosing their religion if they leave their religion? OK!<br /> <br /> Executing gays? OK!<br /> <br /> Executing those who insult fantasy? OK!<br /> <br /> Indoctrinating and labeling children? OK!<br /> <br /> It could've been a better movie though. Unfortunately, people will probably just condemn the movie…

Critical and moderately provocative film about Islam? Racist! Facistic! Hate-speech!

…and be sympathetic towards Islam.

Executing those who never had a real chance of choosing their religion if they leave their religion? OK!

Executing gays? OK!

Executing those who insult fantasy? OK!

Indoctrinating and labeling children? OK!

It could’ve been a better movie though.

]]> By: mushinronjya http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79928 mushinronjya Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79928 The message should be: "Stop all religion. Educate it out of the minds of the world", instead of focusing on just Islam... for that's the only cure to our problems. The message should be: “Stop all religion. Educate it out of the minds of the world”, instead of focusing on just Islam… for that’s the only cure to our problems.

]]> By: Ren http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79932 Ren Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79932 I tried to watch the movie, but couldn't get through it. All I have to say is: Christian America is no better than the Muslim fanatics depicted in this film. We are simply more capable of killing on a greater scale. Everybody remember "Shock and Awe"? I would like to ask how dropping a 2,000 lb GPS guided JDAM on a group of "suspected terrorists" and killing their families in the process, is any better than cutting off the head of an individual? Murder is murder, and it is all being done in the name of the same god. Mankind will not truly be free until all religion is eradicated from the minds of everyone, the world over. I tried to watch the movie, but couldn’t get through it.

All I have to say is: Christian America is no better than the Muslim fanatics depicted in this film. We are simply more capable of killing on a greater scale. Everybody remember “Shock and Awe”?

I would like to ask how dropping a 2,000 lb GPS guided JDAM on a group of “suspected terrorists” and killing their families in the process, is any better than cutting off the head of an individual?

Murder is murder, and it is all being done in the name of the same god. Mankind will not truly be free until all religion is eradicated from the minds of everyone, the world over.

]]> By: ☻ Seeker http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79934 ☻ Seeker Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79934 It's troublsome that some folks compare Christian fundamentalism to Islamic extremism. After 50+ years in the Baptist fundamentalist movement, I never knew of anyone getting the head literally lopped off, never knew of any preachers advocating killing their oponents, or preaching world conquest by force. <br /> <br /> Westboro Baptist is the most extreme I've seen. <br /> <br /> It’s troublsome that some folks compare Christian fundamentalism to Islamic extremism. After 50+ years in the Baptist fundamentalist movement, I never knew of anyone getting the head literally lopped off, never knew of any preachers advocating killing their oponents, or preaching world conquest by force.

Westboro Baptist is the most extreme I’ve seen.

]]> By: Ren http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79935 Ren Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79935 Seeker,<br /> <br /> During my time in the Persian Gulf region, I can say first hand that I have seen hundreds of Muslims with their heads, arms, legs etc... blown off by DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Cluster Munitions) by the good Christians in the US Military.<br /> <br /> UBL was successful at killing roughly 3,000 Americans on 9-11. Since then, we have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in response. People who's only crime is looking like the people that attacked us and worshiping the same prophet.<br /> <br /> So yes, I am comparing Christians to Muslims. IMHO, the only difference is that we are more efficient at killing them, than they are at killing us. I will say it again; Murder is murder. Seeker,

During my time in the Persian Gulf region, I can say first hand that I have seen hundreds of Muslims with their heads, arms, legs etc… blown off by DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Cluster Munitions) by the good Christians in the US Military.

UBL was successful at killing roughly 3,000 Americans on 9-11. Since then, we have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in response. People who’s only crime is looking like the people that attacked us and worshiping the same prophet.

So yes, I am comparing Christians to Muslims. IMHO, the only difference is that we are more efficient at killing them, than they are at killing us. I will say it again; Murder is murder.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79936 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79936 Seeker<blockquote>It's troublsome that some folks compare Christian fundamentalism to Islamic extremism. After 50+ years in the Baptist fundamentalist movement, I never knew of anyone getting the head literally lopped off, never knew of any preachers advocating killing their oponents, or preaching world conquest by force.</blockquote> Get real! In this country xians trade their support of a war that kills thousands for the mere hope of getting a couple of supreme court justices sympathetic to their delusions. They are just as guilty and do their killing on a very large scale. <br /> <br /> Suck it Jesus and Mo!<br /> (not the comic strip)<br /> Seeker
It’s troublsome that some folks compare Christian fundamentalism to Islamic extremism. After 50+ years in the Baptist fundamentalist movement, I never knew of anyone getting the head literally lopped off, never knew of any preachers advocating killing their oponents, or preaching world conquest by force.

Get real! In this country xians trade their support of a war that kills thousands for the mere hope of getting a couple of supreme court justices sympathetic to their delusions. They are just as guilty and do their killing on a very large scale.

Suck it Jesus and Mo!
(not the comic strip)

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79937 what Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79937 Oh and you to Moses! Oh and you to Moses!

]]> By: ☻ Seeker http://atheists.org/blog/2008/03/28/the_fitna_islam_and_the_netherlands/comment-page-1#comment-79939 ☻ Seeker Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-79939 I was a pastor of a fundamentalist church for over a decade. I had no desire to lop off anyone's head, infidel or otherwise. I knew no pastors who had such extremist ideas. <br /> <br /> Believing in the supernatural may be absurd, but it doesn't necessarily predicate extremist violence. Consider the Amish, Quakers, Mennonites and other pacifists groups. <br /> I was a pastor of a fundamentalist church for over a decade. I had no desire to lop off anyone’s head, infidel or otherwise. I knew no pastors who had such extremist ideas.

Believing in the supernatural may be absurd, but it doesn’t necessarily predicate extremist violence. Consider the Amish, Quakers, Mennonites and other pacifists groups.

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