http://www.thefitna.com/Just released, This anti-Muslim movie is about 15 minutes long and is very scary and graphic. I wonder how many innocents will be killed by barbarians THIS time.Watch it — before they pull it off the server.Thanks Zac and Marc.
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I was wondering that too. Just catching up after being gone for a day, and I don’t get it.
I wasn’t all that impressed by the video, btw. Seen it all before, and the way it was presented didn’t really hit me hard. Maybe that says more about me than the film? Am I too jaded?
Well that settles it then!!!!
I know I’m convinced. Anyone else?
Waiaiaiat-a-minute; to which, of the thousands of gods are you referring?
Seeker,
I agree with this. The one thread that combines all if them is Authoritarianism (if someone can prove me wrong, please do so). The real problem with many religions as I see it is that it cannot dissociate itself from Authoritarianism.
I’m not an anti-theist, but I am anti-Authoritarian. But as far as the vast majority of the American public is concerned, those two qualities amount to the same thing.
karen,
No, just educated. This film wasn’t meant for us. When we watch it, it’s no different from preaching to the choir.
I do hope that people who have never paid any attention to Islam take a look and then do their own research. I am wary of relying on what amounts to a propaganda film though.
Thanks to all that have stuck up for me. I have never had a problem with DD before, so it really came out of the blue for me. Perhaps if he had stated why he thinks I am an idiot, I would have responded differently. As it stands, though, I replied with a quid pro quo. Given time to think about it, I actually feel bad for my reply, but it is out there now and I can’t take it back.
So what’s the deal DD? Please explain what I said that makes you think I am an idiot? I stand by everything I said, but I am willing to discuss it, if it will smooth things over.
Karen, I can’t comment on your level of jadedness, but I wasn’t able to get past the first half of the first part of the video because of all the triggers. Like you said, I have seen it all before and don’t need to see it again.
Maybe this video will incite riots among xians:
Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene
http://www.slatev.com/blog.html
Heh.
Google syndication has decided that the word frequency here means that we could be interested in using a Muslim dating service, object matrimony, of course.
The picture in the ad would seem to imply that burkha aficionados are being excluded.
Missing Preacher Found at Strip Club:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080329/ap_on_fe_st/pastor_strip_club;_ylt=Ai7OJGo1paKOKDENa76WYfis0NUE
seeker, if you are trying to make a point, you should at least get things straight.
Robespierre was not an atheist, but a religionist and created the cult of the Supreme Being. He opposed the H?bertists for being anti-xian, among other things, and opposed atheism in general. You might say he was a sort of puritan Republican.
A George Bush of his day. “The Terror” for him was a means of instilling virtue in the public.
Ren and What:
I haven’t posted here in a while, but I note that the both of you are still up to your old ways. By that I mean you attack anyone who has different opinion or different perspective than you. Even if you think someone is wrong you shouldn’t fly into a rage against them.
Now go ahead, and flame away at me.
alexatheist [Member]
Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene
http://www.slatev.com/blog.html
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Are you gay?
What i know, God only created Man and a woman.
In the garden of Eden there are only three creatd in God’s image, Adam (man), Eve (Woman) and Satan that tempted them to disobey God.
Gay? Do you think it’s Satan’s? Genes?
Christ is in the Way:
I’ve said a thousand times, and I’ll say it again.
Do you realize that if the story of Adam and Eve were true, the human race would have extinguished itself a long, long time ago?
If you really think about it, and you sincerely believe that rubbish of Adam and Eve, then you approve of incest.
Who’s the morally bankrupt one, now?
alatham,
[blockquote]The one thread that combines all if them is Authoritarianism[/blockquote]
Yep!
alatham,
Yep!
Apple_Christmas,
You must have me mistaken with someone else. I didn’t attack DD for having a differing opinion than me, I believe everyone is entitled
to their own opinion. I fired back at DD for calling me an idiot without explaining why he felt that way.
After posting here for roughly two years, I really shouldn’t have to explain myself, but here goes.
I suffer from a stress related illness. PTSD that was brought on by my service in the Army. I spend fully half my life enraged, and that is thanks to all the medication I take. If it were not for the meds, I would be pissed off ALL the time. That is why I spend so much time here; because I am afraid of getting arrested whenever I go out into public.
Notice I often show remorse after I have unloaded on somebody. It is not my intention to be upset all the time. I am sick, and it shows. I will, however, say that I feel fully justified in my rage at the war in Iraq, and those that support said war.
Yes, dear. Are you curious?
You KNOW this? How? because some dusty old book says so?
Show me some proof of this extraordinary claim.
I don’t believe in satan because I can think so the devil is off the hook for homosexuality. What I do think based on current medical science is that being gay is genetic and/or hormonal. At the end of the day does it matter why people are gay? isn’t it enough that some of us are?
“In the garden of Eden there are only three creatd in God’s image, Adam (man), Eve (Woman) and Satan that tempted them to disobey God.”
Why would a “loving” god knowingly create someone who he knew would disobey him and tempt others to do the same? If all three were created in god’s image, then god is a two faced bitch, since Adam and Eve were pure/good and Satan was evil.
I think you need to re-read your book, because as I remember it god only created one being, stole a rib from him and turned it into a woman. So as the story tells it, Adam came from absolutely nothing and god apparently needed a rib to make Eve.
Also, I don’t recall there ever being a Satan in the eden story. Maybe Lucifer, the fallen angel, but not Satan. And another thing, it was a fucking snake, not a guy in a red suit with a tail and horns, that tempted those two idiots to disobey god by eating healthy.
I’m an Atheist and even I know how the fable goes.
Apple
If you have an argument to make then make it. If I think it’s lame I will probably tell you so. I generally flame the folks that are obviously not here to make sincere arguments.
Tell a lie often enough and it becomes truth…
Comment from: Ren
Comment from: Obeah
Isn’t that official Rovian doctrine?
I’ll put my first hand experiences up against your talking points any day.
“Tell a lie often enough and it becomes truth…”
At least for phreedumb, or any other xian for that matter.
That’s funny! My next door neighbors are devout Christians. Go to church every Sunday, yet I love them to death. I would do anything in the world for them. Reason? Because they respect my right to believe as I wish, just as I respect their right to believe as they wish. It is only those that try to force their beliefs onto me that I take issue with.
Take yourself for example. You come here to our sanctuary, spewing your horse shit, and you catch hell for it. I don’t give a rat’s ass what you believe personally, regarding religion, just keep it to yourself. Nuff said!
Ren
The soon to be indicted Rove? Yep, that’s the one.
Say Ren,
You’re as bad as Dave. Both of you can make claims and when asked to back them up you both quickly change topics…
Hey…I figured you’d love to see the kind of guy you’re supporting for Prez…
Didn’t you even caucus for him…?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/27/obamas-former-pastor-builds-a-multimillion-dollar-retirement-home/
“Christ is the way”, you need psychiatric help.
Rusty Shackleford, thanks for that information about wikipedia which I just read. Now I can skip the video. I once saw a video showing a muslim cutting off somebody’s head, and I don’t need to be grossed out again.
It’s very obvious Muslims are insane, but it’s important to remember Christians are equally insane.
Look at this crap, written on a Christian blog today by a pastor: “The Bible teaches of Salvation by Grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Without that faith, it doesn’t matter how many good works a person performs…If they have not put their faith, hope and trust in Jesus Christ….they will not go to Heaven, but will wind up in the Fiery Pit of Satan called HELL.” http://tinyurl.com/34yvyn
Notice this part: “it doesn’t matter how many good works a person performs”
I don’t care which sky fairy a religious person believes in. All religious people are scum.
“Jesus is my hope and trust”
Why don’t you make the world a better place and drop dead right now so you can see your jesus preacher man.
Idiot.
Well said.
well seeker, it is certainly better said than what you didn’t know about Robespierre. You are giving phreedom competition.
wisconsinatheist,
The Genesis creation account has a few other glitches.
Note, for example that the light and darkness (day and night) appeared, not the mention 24 hour days, before the sun was created on day four.
Another problem is the existence of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers — their geographical locations included — prior to Adam and Eve being expelled from the garden. These would have been erased by Noah’s universal flood.
Another problem is the very existence of Satan. His objective is to dethrone God. However, if he were to succeed the entire universal — both physical and spiritual — would cease to exist; including Satan himself. Is Satan on a suicide mission?
I posed these problems many times and have yet to receive a satisfactory response. Phreedm is welcome to respond, if he/she cares to do so.
Now, back the subject of Muslim terrorists…