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Resurrection reflection

Happy Eoster! or is it Oester? or Easter? This is the wonderful day in the year on which you can really nail Christians (hee) for just totally stealing a holiday. The Vernal Equinox has been a time of celebration for millenia, most recently celebrated by Pagans with items of fertility — you know, eggs and bunnies.Then the Christians usurped it, all the traditions, and even the NAME of the day. And then they expect US to take them seriously! Another good example of them kidding themselves.I need to go downstairs to moderate a god debate. The convention was GREAT this year — I’ll post more about it in a while. In the mean time, remember: Tomorrow all those chocolate bunnies go on 50% off sale! Please enjoy responsibly.

100 Responses to “Resurrection reflection”

  1. avatar Salvador says:

    “I know it was 1981, but I’m still having a hard time reconciling my visual memory of Pope “Timmy!” with this statement.”

    Why do the atheist take the least important parts of my post and feel they must comment on it…….because they can’t argue the more important parts of my post.

    “Could you imagine what a hypocritical pagan superstitionalist like this would do if they ran into one of those people someplace where they think they could get away with physical violence?”

    Has it occured to you that your post virtually don’t make any sense.

    “All your post does is remind us why it is fallacy for ANY government to try to FORCE religion (or non-religion) on its people.”

    Hhhmmmm……you should tell that to your cult leader, O’Hair….she definitely believed communism was the answer, as well as almost all atheist. But the witch is gone now…….lol.

  2. avatar Salvador says:

    “It is the religious that generaly believe everything they are told.”

    Accept the religious don’t believe in Communism….and are anti-communists, and that is were your resentment for the religious lies…because you can’t imagine how someone can’t see “the state” as being ones ultimate salvation. It just boggles your tiny little mind.

    I’m so sorry your berlin wall collapsed, and your Bolshevik dreams…….not.

  3. avatar alatham says:

    Salvador,

    Now Yuri Andropov clearly states that the Soviet Union’s goal is to “atheize” the youth.
    Why would this be???

    Probably because the Soviet Union was an evil Authoritarian entity.

    If you want to make the case that atheists are necessarily Authoritarians, then go ahead and try. But I have no intention of holding my breath.

    The simple fact here is that all the popular forms of monotheism cannot dissociate themselves from Authoritarianism, but atheists can reject Authoritarianism if they so choose.

    Because atheist are mind numbed robots that are least likely to fight for god given rights, and are the least likely to question government authority…….because that is all an atheist believes in…..is the state and the government.

    Do you have any evidence to back up this statement?

    My personal motto is “question everything.” I guess I’m not really an atheist.

    You still haven’t addressed how your leader….the old hairy chick (butt ugly at that)….was also an avowed communist.

    Leader? Fuck her.

    You still haven’t provided evidence that she was a communist. That link does not support your claim in the least.

    In fact, there’s strong evidence that she was the opposite of a Communist. From The Freedom Writer:

    FW: How would you like to be remembered?
    O’HAIR: I told my kids I just want three words on my tombstone, if I have one. I’ll probably be cremated. One is “woman.” I’m very comfortable in that role. I’ve loved being a woman, I’ve loved being a mother, I’ve loved being a grandmother. I want three words: Woman, Atheist, Anarchist. That’s me.
    -Emphasis mine

    Full link:
    http://tinyurl.com/335z2x

    Do those sound like the words of a Communist? Or are her own words not a good indicator of her ideals? By definition, anarchists cannot be communists.

    And here are quotes from the source you provided:

    Of the many ironies involved in the O?Hair story, one is that Madalyn O?Hair battled the government all her life and conscientiously avoided paying taxes.

    The reports noted that O?Hair was brash, profane and vulgar, that she had a reputation for being abrasive and turning friends and allies into enemies, that she was notoriously tight-fisted and always looking for ways to enrich her empire — all of those things she might have agreed with.

    Here’s a hint, next time you want to make a case, don’t give opposition evidence that proves you wrong.

    Did you even read the article you posted? All evidence points to “no.”

    Do all the atheistic women look like O’hair……probably a good % of them do…..

    What is this supposed to prove?

    Do you really not know how to make an argument?

    Need I also add that Mikhail Gorbachev said this about the Pope.

    ?the collapse of the Iron Curtain would have been impossible without the pope”

    So? What’s your point?

    That’s why all the atheist on this forum hate the Catholic Church and the Pope…..because they resent that their salvation and purpose for living….the Communist state, collapse due to the workings of the great pope.

    Evidence?

    Atheist are nothin but a bunch murderous Communistic thugs.

    Then how can you explain the fact that we are underrepresented in prison in the USA?

    In 1997 we made up only .209% of the prison population, despite making at least 4% of the general population. That means that atheists were at least 20 times less likely to end up in prison. If I could find more recent numbers, I would use them instead and perhaps my case would not be so tight, but this is the best we’ve got.

    The two extreme conclusion are that atheists are 20 times more moral, or 20 times smarter about getting away with crimes. The reality almost certainly falls somewhere in the middle.

    Here is a link for the stats:
    http://tinyurl.com/2n6g74

    Salvador, you have a very skewed perspective on the way the world works. I hope that you refrain from participating in our democracy until you can learn to think for yourself instead of parroting the baseless arguments that you’ve presented here.

  4. avatar (: tom :) says:

    Comment from: Salvador

    “I know it was 1981, but I’m still having a hard time reconciling my visual memory of Pope “Timmy!” with this statement.”

    Why do the atheist take the least important parts of my post and feel they must comment on it…….because they can’t argue the more important parts of my post.

    Why do the religiously insane always distort any arguments against their superstitious nonsense? And then think they have the right to tell everyone what somebody (who completely disagrees with their occult pagan fairy tales) what they’re thinking and why they’re thinking it?

    Maybe it’s because they have no facts to base their imaginary sky fairy on, and so cannot conceive of engaging in a debate using fact-based reasoning.

    “Could you imagine what a hypocritical pagan superstitionalist like this would do if they ran into one of those people someplace where they think they could get away with physical violence?”

    Has it occured to you that your post virtually don’t make any sense.

    I’m sure that people like you, slavedoor, are having problems with the big words. Maybe if you talked to some grownups real nice, they could help you with that.

    There’s also usually a lot of logic involved in my comments, so I can understand why pig-ignorant pagans like you, slavedoor, would have comprehension issues.

    But, go ahead and continue to shamelessly lie about those you know nothing about. A perfect example of the lack of moral standards amoung the religiously insane. Good job!

  5. avatar alatham says:

    Salvador,

    You’ve fallen into the trap of believing that because most theists are capitalists, most atheists must necessarily be communists. This is a logical fallacy known as a non sequitur.

    Just because atheists reject (or are ignorant of) theism does not mean that we must also reject the common traits of theists. You are trying to build what is known as a “Straw-man argument” by building atheism up as some organized entity that opposes everything that theism stands for. That is ridiculous.

    As I’ve stated before, the only effective attack on atheism is evidence that at least one deity exists.

    You can attack individual atheists all you want (and I encourage you to), but so far none of your arguments have anything to say to me because the Straw-man you’ve built does not even begin to represent me (I, of course, cannot speak for other atheists).

    You are trying to force atheism into a box so you can throw some explosives inside and destroy us (and thus avoid having to answer difficult questions about your bizarre beliefs), but you don’t seem to realize that atheism is a cloud that permeates every aspect of modern society.

    Atheists don’t agree on anything except that deities are probably made up. Assert otherwise all you want, your arguments will simply continue to fall flat as they have so far.

  6. avatar LightningLucci says:

    Why do the atheist take the least important parts of my post and feel they must comment on it…….because they can’t argue the more important parts of my post.

    Or how about I had made my point with the first part and just wanted to add a joke to it. I’m sorry, but all things must eventually lead back to Seinfeld, South Park, or The Simpsons. It’s the only way to prevent the Big Crunch.

  7. avatar alatham says:

    dammit, I missed the XHTML tag. Oh well.

  8. avatar KnowledgeIsPower says:

    Accept the religious don’t believe in Communism….and are anti-communists, and that is were your resentment for the religious lies…because you can’t imagine how someone can’t see “the state” as being ones ultimate salvation. It just boggles your tiny little mind.

    Salvador, I’d appreciate it if you’d open an Economics text-book, flip to the index, look up ‘communism’ and return to tell us what you learned. Seriously, I pity you your ignorance.

    In fact, there’s strong evidence that she was the opposite of a Communist.

    Actually, if memory serves, the original Communist economic system was inherently anarchist. The working class was supposed to rise up in violent revolution, cast aside the repressive upper-classes, and set in place a utopian society where government would become unnecessary.

  9. avatar alatham says:

    KIP,

    You’re correct, I retract my statement about anarchy.

    If we look at the Political Compass, we can see that Anarchy is a socially liberal trait, not an economically liberal trait. So it’s possible to be an anarchist and a communist, just as it’s possible to be a fascist and communist (like Stalin). That small slice of my argument doesn’t hold water.
    See here:
    http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

    That said, O’Hair still had money squirreled away and avoided paying taxes, which strongly suggest that she was closer to being a libertarian than a communist.

  10. avatar FlyingWeasel says:

    I hate it when people rail about “communism and atheism” when what they really mean is “totalitarianism and personality worship”

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