Had this been McCain’s preacher preaching racist bullshit, everybody would be crying for him to be removed from the GOP ticket.

Give me (us?) a break. McCain advocates for the invasion of a country that posed no threat to us. THAT is what should keep HIM off the ticket yet it HASN’T.

Yesterday Obama gave the best and most adult-like speech I have ever heard in my lifetime from a president or presidential candidate. Judging candidates by the company they keep is ineffective at best. Judging them by one specific member of this company is ludicrous. If you want to know their position on the issues then ask them. If they don’t support those positions in office then elect someone else. Our bad representation is no less our fault than those we elect to represent us.

Obama for Pres.

By the way, did anyone else pick up from Obama’s speech that he was partially excusing Wright’s remarks because of historic racism?

In any case, there are much better reasons to be critical of Obama, and you can find them all in his voting record.

http://www.counterpunch.org/gonzalez02292008.html

Granted, Matt Gonzalez is running against Obama (and Counterpunch is pretty extremist), but the article raises some excellent points.

You appear to be saying that you can not “disown” members of your family. But you can . Obama said that HE can’t disown Wright anymore than HE could disown his grandmother who loved and cared for him. I think that most of us have experienced choices like this in our lives. For example, my step father was and is a racist but I love him very much. He has been very good to me and he is very important in my mothers life. This does not mean that I support his views. On the contrary I argue frequently with him about such matters.

I don’t demand that everyone in my life measure up to my metrics. The world is not so black and white. Surely this is something that atheists and others that abhor the dichotomous underpinnings of religion can agree upon.

I am afraid that I am going to have to disagree with you on a few things:

The big deal is that this is hypocritical of the left and secular democrats.

Just like so many other things that are drummed into our consciousness from the Republican’t media and the Republican’t political machine, this is even more hypocritical of the religious right (which is neither) to bring up and demand that others hold to the standards they themselves cannot measure up to. I would agree to a limited extent that the more fervently secular members of the democratic party are being mildly to flagrantly hypocritical, though…

You’re also confused, this is a church that Obama supports, Rudi hasn’t (to the best of my knowledge) attended a Robertson church for the past 20 years. Supporting a church with probably tens of thousands of dollars and pandering for votes are two entirely different things.

The money is the big deal here – money for the fat cat Republican’t hare apparent to have for years, and money to be (once again especially hypocritically brought up by Republican’ts) picked at when put into the tithe plate at his church as supporting every initiative that the church puts forth, however full goose bozo looney it is. I certainly don’t hold to that, having been lied to, many times over the years, by christians in order to get some of my cash into their collection plates.

Had this been McCain’s preacher preaching racist bullshit, everybody would be crying for him to be removed from the GOP ticket.

Which preacher that McClueless has honored as being a ’spiritual guide’ would you like to discuss?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee
??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Parsley ??

Or his religiously insane opponents in the primary (one of which could be Veep*)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Huckabee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

For starters. I’m sure with some serious Soros and/or Buffet money I could be convinced to dig into things a bit deeper…

At least the spiritual guide has been upgraded since Nancy’s astrologer helped out with the White House press core back in the days of Ronnie Ray-Gun…

* – which brings up the hypothetical(s): which of them would be a better shot? And how would it factor in the VP decision? Would it be irresponsible to speculate about it? Would it be irresponsible not to?

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