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Imaginary or real?
Off topic, but is anyone else seeing the banner ad on the right advertising ?Meet Christian Singles?? I think it’s funny Christians don’t believe in sex before marriage, but this company advertises using some hot blond with an amazing set of fun bags in a white tank top (shoulders back and all to really accentuate the size of her breasts) ? obviously taking the ?sex sells? route .
Brilliant.
And as a bonus, Christians join free, it says. So do we just present our ?I gave myself to Jesus? card?
Debbie,
You have friends? Just kidding. I am sure you are a lovely person. You just seem very misguided.
Love the Christian, hate the Christianity.
DVan, I got one of those Christian singles ads, but with a man in it. Talk about barking up the wrong tree.
I voting for God. I think she said she has him in her ‘MyFavs’, so it doesn’t cost her minutes.
Rusty,
Is he sticking out his chest while wearing a wife-beater?
DVan,
I hit “refresh” and he was Raptured into the ether.
Ah! That reminds me, I need to get the garbage out for pick-up tomorrow. Wednesday, church, garbage.
Thanks Rusty!
Ren,
I don’t know, Ren. Her posts haven’t yet convinced me that she’s not one phone call away from hearing her God tell her to drown her children in a bathtub.
Rusty,
NICE.
DVan,
Now, now; I’m sure Andrea Yates was a lovely person at one time, too. Before her omnibenevolent god idea got to her, that is.
Rusty,
You guess if we all got together and hit the refresh button a bunch of times, we could Rapture them all away into the ether world?
DVan, if I can jump in with the “My god, my god, why have you forsaken me?” issue… If you read John Spong’s “Jesus for the Non-Religious”, he paints a thorough picture of how the Jesus story is a VERY Jewish story. This exclamation is a direct quote from Psalm 22:1 and the people of the time would have picked up on that right away confirming the lineage of Jesus to David. He’s actually a fascinating author that you might enjoy.
Spanders,
That would certainly make sense, since Jesus was a Jew. If such a person actually existed, and I must admit I am skeptical, I doubt very seriously he would have wanted a new religion started in his name. Just as Martin Luther was appalled at what was occuring in Europe, during his lifetime, in his name. I doubt seriously his intentions were to start 350 plus years of bloodletting.
Just as an addition, if you read the entire chapter, it might make a little more sense. That statement is not only about the direct relationship of Jesus to David, but the whole chapter is a somewhat messianic text. In other words, this one statement was meant to be a reference to the whole chapter.
Ren, you might like Spong quite a bit. He’s often referred to as the atheist bishop as he doesn’t believe in god so to speak. It’s hard for me to summarize well, but his knowledge of the jewish tradition, history and his ability to relate it to Jesus is a VERY worth while read for christians and atheists alike. I suspect for atheists, it gives more fuel for the fire.
Long-time reader, first-time poster. Ummm…regarding the David lineage, isn’t Jesus supposed to be Joe’s step-son not his biological son? So why is Jesus the Christ put into David’s lineage if he’s not Joe’s blood son? Am I missing something here? Somebody please help me out!
Btw, Karen I love your posts.
Keep in mind that faith sans evidence is essential to the evangelical mindset.
? “We walk by faith, not by sight.”
? “Faith is the evidence…”
? “Without faith it is impossible to please God.”
The Christian summation is: “God said it, I believe it; that settles it.”
Evidence does little to pierce the illusion. It is simply accomodated.
For example, challenge those who believe in a literal six-day creation week with the apparent age of the earth.
Their response?
“God created the universe with the appearance of age.”
paine34,
As the adopted son of Joseph, Jesus had the legal right to David’s throne.
A more compelling argument is trying to verify Joseph’s lineage as presented in Matthew’s gospel.
spanders,
You’re not hitting on me, are you? Sorry, but ‘spong’ sounds just a little too much like slang for ‘jizz’.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I have a really hard time reading books. I have fairly decent reading comprehension skills, but my attention span is that of a fruit fly. I mostly stick to news and magazine articles. Does he write books exclusivly, or does he have a website I could check out. That would be more my speed.
paine34,
Welcome… to the machine. (Pink Floyd)
Ren, next time you go on a road trip, get the audio book. It’s a lot of what I do. I know, it’s a cop out, but I listen to this type of thing when I’m working on some projects that don’t need that part of the brain. It’s when I’m designing I find I do better when I listen to audiobooks.
Give his site a whirl:
http://www.johnshelbyspong.com/bishopspongon_jesus.aspx
spanders,
Thanks. I will give it a whirl. Must go now. Have a hungry young’un to feed. See you all later.
DVan, the thing I think is odd is why is there an income bracket when signing up? Not interests, not flavor of christian, but income. Should that really be on a christian site?
Sorry, on the dating site.
Spanders,
“Should that really be on a christian site?”
That should not be on a Christian site. Who cares what your income is to date.
Spanders,
Is’nt it true that the whole lineage thing was painfully merged into the existing gospels (along with Jesus’s birth in Bethlehem rather than Nazareth) in oder to satisfy the requirements for identification of the messiah?
The other thing I find very weird, is that in the bible, Jesus and his followers discuss what they need to do in order to fulfill the prophesies of the OT (ie riding into Jerusalem on an ass). How can that be considered a prophesy??
A lot of people believe that the stuff in the bible was made up by Jews and early Christians. Accurate historical anaylsis refutes this view…most of it was plagarised from the Pagans and other early religions.
You are a paradox to me Spanders! An obviously intellegent and critically thinking person…but the fear still holds you.
We are humans made in God’s image but unfortunately your belief in evolution has caused your mind to filter out the truth.
We are humans who have evolved over the fullness of time, but unfortunately your belief in an Invisible Cloud Being and his Big Book of christian Fairy Tales has caused your mind to filter out the truth, and discard rational thought in favor of blind acceptance of your religious insanity.
Plus: good attempt with that whole word chopper ‘logic’ to try and imply that some believe in your pagan superstitions no matter whether they think they do or not. And you keep on trying to push the same old tired occult nonsense while expecting different results. Sad, really…
paine34
Welcome! Glad you’ve come out from lurking. I’m flattered that you like my posts. Can’t wait to see more from you.
Spanders
On the lineage thing…I thought it was traced matrilineally(sp)? So Jesus would have been linked to David through Mary.
And on that blog advertising thing, no word from freakgirl yet?
Debbie,
If you are still around, a suggestion: Take note of the comments made by Spanders. He is a believer but if you’ll notice, his comments have some meat to them. We may not agree with him but we respect him (and I believe he respects us.
Right now I’m pretty sure I speak for all of us when I say we do not hold much respect for you or your comments, which for some reason I don’t think you’ve figured out.
Perhaps if you didn’t post for a while and tried to learn what it will take to make a difference in convincing us that you might have something worthwhile to say you might find us more receptive.
Just a thought.