Yeah, those ads over there on the right. Kelly from RRS, Ben Stein’s stupidity movie, take this test to find Atheist singles.I hope they generate good money into American Atheists. But what do you think of them? Should we allow Christians to advertise, even if they offer more money (they do)?
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Sure. Let them advertise. I don’t see a down side of much significance. Hot babes in Darwin fish and FSM T-shirts are nice too.
Why not? We don’t fear them. We only disagree with them.
i don’t know.. i got aggravated at one point and just took them off. there must be more interesting things to promote. this can’t all be by about money.
Money is money so I say allow the religious ads.
Unlike the religiously minded we atheists don’t need to censor competing claims because our ideas stand up to scrutiny.
*…all be about money.
How much revenue do they bring in vs. the more secular ads?
Nothing wrong with ads. We use ads at our new site as well. Besides, unless the Christians convert the clickers, they just spend money. You’re taking Christian money and investing it.
I dunno… if there was some kind of “worthy cause” that needed the space…
like, say that space and time magazine you’re always plugging,
you might want to allocate some potential addspace to them.
but if there’s a potential to generate some revenue for AA, which is a good cause in my mind, there’s no reason not to let that illegible ben stein movie take up some space.
Not only is it okay for them to advertize, but if clicking on them generates money for AA, then we all ought to be clicking the shit out of them and taking the idiots’ money while we are at it!
the only reason it bugs me is that, from past experience things like this can confuse new readers. theyll come on here and see these ads and may assume that this site panders to both opinions. a few times ive come on here and been a little annoyed that even here, there is a chrizzo presence..
its like posting ANYTHING about evolution, or dinosaurs or archaeology on youtube – within a day or less the comment area will be dominated by five or six chrizzos arguing over biblical texts and how evolution is a lie. Its bizarre. id like to be able to roam the internet without the hand of the dumb sticking its thumb in every single thing i do.
but then again im a very angry atheist. perhaps it annoys me more than most..
No, you are perfectly fine if you feel that way and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that sentiment.
Wow…what a thread? I think Dave’s concious is bothering him…
It’s Capitalism at it’s finest…
So Christians pay more? Great…so if Google gave ALL advertisers a 10% break in fees, the Christians savings would be greater…simple math you say?
Thanks for giving a perfect example of how to explain “Tax Breaks” that even the “simple minded” can understand…
Comment from: alexatheist
Now Alex…nothing could be farther from the truth.
It’s ok to stand behind that claim on an AA blog site…but it’s not ok to have those views challenged in within a classroom? What are you scared of? The ONLY excuse anyone can offer is the myth…
Instead AA uses the Myth to prevent their views from being discussed. As I’ve said over and over again, this position has repeadedly kept thousands of kids in failing public schools within the inner cities…
what you don’t seem to understand, phreedm, is that the conditions that lead to these failing schools are having too many kids in the hands of undertrained teachers with too little funding.
if we send them all packing to other schools without increasing the total amount of funding to public schools it’ll just create the same problems elsewhere.
as to ID in the classroom, I have no problem with ID “scientists” publishing their proposals till their ears turn blue but untill they produce something that resembles scientific evidence they shouldn’t be allowed to teach it in classrooms.
get it around your head that you are not the best person to design a science curriculum.
I like the way y high school bio teacher taught evolution, he was very willing to give the other “options” their mention. He just stated the amount of scientifically relevant information: some people believe that everything was made by a creator. Then moved on. Made perfect sense for a science class.
Do Christian web sites allow Atheist ads?
I think having ads like the Rational Responders and Evolvefish is great – messages and products that atheists might actually be interested in. However, I find the xian and other nutbar ads extremely annoying, and there’s no way I would click on any of them.
The ads don’t bother me for the simple reason that the christians who hang around this site don’t really have a convincing argument. Most of the time they are arguing points we have heard for years and acting like they have some new information on the subject. In fact, I think they rally even more people to our cause with their weak arguments. christians think they are changing people’s minds, but really they are just bored and wasting some time on the internet. The best they can come up with is, just believe me because I said so. Posting tons of unrelated links is never going to get someone to believe in your cause. We should take advantage of the fact that christians are incredibly arrogant and they think that by quoting some religious website they will get us to change our deeply held beliefs. Sure, you can try, but you have to pay the toll if you want to do that. Just let them keep firing away while we make money and consolidate ourselves.
Challenged with what? intelligent design aka creationsim has zero science or information to back up it’s extraordinary claims so it really doesn’t take any classroom time to teach something which offers absolutely nothing other than “god did it”. Evolution, however, is a scientific fact backed up by decades of research in the same way that gravity is a fact and neither fact is something which a person can have an opinion about-it just is. Have you ever taken any university level biology courses, phreedum? Perhaps it would do you some good to educate yourself about a topic which you obviously haven’t a clue about before you offer criticism.
Following your opinion perhaps we should offer classes in astrology alongside astronomy and alchemy as an alternative view to chemistry just to be fair and balanced and to present all sides. How about we keep religious dogma out of public schools and in turn the schools will keep critical thinking out of the churches, ok?
Let the ads stay. I love the irony in Christian money going to support an atheist web site. Absolutely perfect.
It’s amazing to me that many of you still respond to the blog-vomit regurgitated by that mindless fool, Phreedumass.
Well, good luck with that.
At first I was going to vote for banning religious ads because they’re annoying, and we already have the religious trolls for that. But I find the above arguments convincing. Let them stay!
I agree that they should stay. But perhaps the ad section should be more clearly designated.
Put a box around the ads with the words “Advertisements – not associated with American Atheists”
I love being able to click on the ads and damage religion. The ads make it so easy.
Yes, allow them. The difference is we will or have investigated their ideas and they fail to be put in peer-reviewed journals for a reason.
As long as I don’t get emotional or use name calling what’s the harm? Maybe there are xians lurking in here who will learn something when we refute him becasue I am full aware that he is a hopeless case.
The more money the christians spend on blog ads, the less money they’ll have to buy Prada shoes or bugger little boys.
I’m all for it.
By the way – it’s funny, there’s a religiously insane idiot who made a whole bunch of unsupported inaccurate claims about atheism (something of which he has no knowledge) with no proof that any of his lies have any connection to reality earlier in the comments to this post. And this is supposed to accomplish what? It sure gives a lot of ammunition to those who enjoy pointing out how those who claim to be religious violate their own tenets on a continual basis.
I wonder what would happen if religious beliefs were challenged in a classroom setting? Would the christians go back to crucifixion, or would merely wearing a scarlet letter suffice for this type of offense?
Just out of curiousity, phreedm, why do you come to an atheist website to complain about atheism? Your posts aren’t going to change anyones mind.
Comment from: FlyingWeasel
Simply not true…do some research into the public schools of Washington DC from the 1940′s…many classes had over 40 students in each class and yet they outperformed the “higher funded” white high schools from the surronding communities…
As as for too little funding…you don’t believe $10,000 per student is enough? We spend more on education then any other nation on the planet…
Comment from: alexatheist
Again…simply not true. You need to do more research on ID. Besides having such a “closed approach to education” is no different from what the church did in the dark ages…
There should be NO LIMITS in education. Period…
Comment from: Augustine
Really? You better tell those who have contacted me privately….