Comments on: Anonymous V Scientology http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology A Blog of Atheist Thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:40:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology/comment-page-1#comment-77400 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-77400 <blockquote>Scientology is NOT a cult -- it's a scam.</blockquote><br /> <br /> Actually it's both...<br /> <br /> <blockquote>cult-: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents<br /> 4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator </blockquote><br /> <br /> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult<br /> <br /> Yes, it's a scam. It charges dues for the sole purpose of letting their leaders live a cushy life...<br /> <br /> Wait a minute...I need to read that earlier thread again...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />

Scientology is NOT a cult — it’s a scam.

Actually it’s both…

cult-: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult

Yes, it’s a scam. It charges dues for the sole purpose of letting their leaders live a cushy life…

Wait a minute…I need to read that earlier thread again…

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology/comment-page-1#comment-77403 alexatheist Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-77403 $cientology deserves to have it's tax exempt status removed not because it is a scam or a cult but because all religions should pay their fair share instead of being social parasites sucking at the teat of the American taxpayer.<br /> <br /> Suck it Jeebus! and Tom Cruise too!<br /> <br /> $cientology deserves to have it’s tax exempt status removed not because it is a scam or a cult but because all religions should pay their fair share instead of being social parasites sucking at the teat of the American taxpayer.

Suck it Jeebus! and Tom Cruise too!

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology/comment-page-1#comment-77404 what Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-77404 Scientology is as much a religion as any religion. Anonymous is a bunch of juvenile delinquent xians behaving like the weak little wussies they are outside of THEIR cult. Scientology is as much a religion as any religion. Anonymous is a bunch of juvenile delinquent xians behaving like the weak little wussies they are outside of THEIR cult.

]]> By: DD Dropout http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology/comment-page-1#comment-77405 DD Dropout Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-77405 Depending on the particular emphasis one places on the word cult, I think you are both right. Amazing feeling, to find some agreement with Phreedm.<br /> <br /> The emphasis I would prefer is that they are an organised criminal agency that not only deceives, defrauds and damages its recruits, but frequently commits crimes against individuals external to the agency. On top of that it is known to have committed crimes against the governments of the countries it is active in.<br /> <br /> Yes, major religions are selling a non existent afterlife and an imaginary god to their sheep and they constantly beg for money to 'carry on the good work'.<br /> <br /> That's not illegal.<br /> <br /> From their Dianetics to their pseudo lie detector based 'auditing' courses, they are conning people out of their time and money and deterring people from getting real help elsewhere. <br /> <br /> Their auditing and disconnect procedures are a form of brainwashing and personality modification. The damage continues with isolating people from friends and family and continues in their slave system called the Rehabilitation Project Force.<br /> <br /> I have seen it alleged that ever since the organisation decided that protection under the First Amendment would be useful to it in the US, it has pursued a policy of appearing to be a religion, with ministers, etc. It was claimed that this was laid out in internal Scientology policy documents (Vol. 1 p.41) (Vol.1 p.196) (Vol. 2 p.238,239) (Vol.4 p.405).<br /> <br /> It appears then that they are cynically simulating a religious organisation for financial and political advantage. Depending on the particular emphasis one places on the word cult, I think you are both right. Amazing feeling, to find some agreement with Phreedm.

The emphasis I would prefer is that they are an organised criminal agency that not only deceives, defrauds and damages its recruits, but frequently commits crimes against individuals external to the agency. On top of that it is known to have committed crimes against the governments of the countries it is active in.

Yes, major religions are selling a non existent afterlife and an imaginary god to their sheep and they constantly beg for money to ‘carry on the good work’.

That’s not illegal.

From their Dianetics to their pseudo lie detector based ‘auditing’ courses, they are conning people out of their time and money and deterring people from getting real help elsewhere.

Their auditing and disconnect procedures are a form of brainwashing and personality modification. The damage continues with isolating people from friends and family and continues in their slave system called the Rehabilitation Project Force.

I have seen it alleged that ever since the organisation decided that protection under the First Amendment would be useful to it in the US, it has pursued a policy of appearing to be a religion, with ministers, etc. It was claimed that this was laid out in internal Scientology policy documents (Vol. 1 p.41) (Vol.1 p.196) (Vol. 2 p.238,239) (Vol.4 p.405).

It appears then that they are cynically simulating a religious organisation for financial and political advantage.

]]> By: what http://atheists.org/blog/2008/02/18/anonymous_v_scientology/comment-page-1#comment-77406 what Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-77406 DD<blockquote>It appears then that they are cynically simulating a religious organisation for financial and political advantage.</blockquote>Cone on! All religions are cynical simulators. Scientology plays the religion game as deftly as any other religion. If you want to see brainwashing, personality modification and isolation culling you don't have to go further than your local evangelical church. Step inside sometime or go to one of their summer camps for kids where it gets batshit crazy. DD
It appears then that they are cynically simulating a religious organisation for financial and political advantage.

Cone on! All religions are cynical simulators. Scientology plays the religion game as deftly as any other religion. If you want to see brainwashing, personality modification and isolation culling you don’t have to go further than your local evangelical church. Step inside sometime or go to one of their summer camps for kids where it gets batshit crazy.

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