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Madelyn story on TV… Again

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD!There is a TV series called “MURDER BY THE BOOK” The NEXT show isabout the torture and murder of Madlyn Murry O’Hair phd., her son andgrand daughter, It will be on Monday., Jan. 14th, at 10 PM PST and I think it will beshown earlier as well. (like 7 PM)It is a one hour program and will be on the TRU channel (formerly CourtTV )I am pretty sure it will be shown again on Saturday, Jan.19th (in theafternoon) as well.

13 Responses to “Madelyn story on TV… Again”

  1. avatar baresht1 says:

    A bit off topic here, but I have some thoughts on something What needed from some days previous.

    Mission: find a suitable retort to ?gawd bless?. You want to capture and expose the essence of xianity with a short phrase.
    From my experience, the essence of such gawd-touched people is arrogance. I am arrogant so I can recognize it in others. However, my arrogance pales in comparison to the gawd touched. Why is mine so inferior to theirs? What is their secret?
    Then it occurs to me: They claim to be made in gawd?s image with dominion over all other creatures. Wow. I don?t have any of that. No wonder they are arrogant.
    But what does that mean?Clearly, gawd has no physical definition so it could not actual create anything in it?s own form. It appears to be a contradiction. But wait. The bibble doesn?t contain contradictions, it contains ?metaphors?. (thanks JustME. That is excellent insight.) Ah. This is a metaphor. If gawd didn?t actually make xians in it?s image what does it mean? I know. Gawd did not make xians, it made xianity: therefore xian beliefs are gawdlike. So what, you ask is gawdlike. Well, gawd cannot be defined by what it is; rather it must be defined by what it is not. Gawd cannot be measured so has no substance or form. Therefore, xian beliefs have no substance or form. So when they say they have dominion over other creatures, they must mean their value system is superior over non-gawdlike value system (creatures).
    Brilliant?No wonder they are so arrogant. They can make up anything they want without regard to structure or form and be completely consistent within their own values. Those of us with pedestrian values are constrained by substance. It is no wonder we cannot use our puny laws of logic to convince them. They truly are gawdlike.

    Gawd Bless You.

    Your Hubris Abounds.

  2. avatar says:

    Yikes…what a rant. Four paragraphs and you’ve said absolutely nothing…

    Kind of reminds me of listening to a speech by Obama…

    Back on track…I hope the special explains how MO was able to squirrel away so much money…

  3. avatar fathead says:

    Phreedm,

    Over and over again I hear you ranting in this blog about the VAST sums of money that you seem to believe some atheist organizations (or their leaders) have been able to gather from those of like mind in order to further their stated goals and objectives.

    I suspect that the paltry sums involved in these atheist organizations pale in comparison (like a gnat to an elephant) to the immense funds at the disposal of the religious right. So what is really bugging you so much in this area?

    Are you worried that a little money (and very little at that) might give us some clout with politicians, legislators, and the media, or are you just trying to generally undermine the confidence of some atheists in their own organizations?

    I would suggest that someone as obviously religious as you might serve your cause better by focusing on how your own organizations are using the money they have fleeced from their flock.

  4. avatar Barbiebrains says:

    Phreedm…

    How much do you think the gigantic bronze “Praying Hands” statue cost Oral Roberts?

    “The large praying hands at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla., are pictured Friday, Oct. 5, 2007.
    The president of Oral Roberts University, Richard Roberts facing accusations he misspent school funds
    to support a lavish lifestyle, resigned on Friday Nov. 23, 2007, officials said.”

    Check out the ugly-ass statue, “Praying Hands”…Like two giant mealworms of love…LOL, LOL, LOL, and so on…

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1929921/posts

  5. avatar quantum_flux says:

    //Mission: find a suitable retort to ?gawd bless?.//

    - When you sneeze, sneeze really loud and on people, and maybe with a little shnozz in it too …. That usually prevents them from saying “gawd bless you” in the first place. Although, a bad side effect of this is that you get more of a “go to hell” remark when that happens. …. if there are more than 1 person, then try to spin your head 360 when sneezing so as to get everyone in the room.

    - Or just say “I was trying to cause another Hurricane Katrina using the butterfly effect. If there ever is another hurricane in the world, then gawd did not bless that sneeze and therefore you’re an idiot for believing in sneeze-blessings.”

  6. avatar what says:

    Baresht1

    Your Hubris Abounds.

    I think that certainly sums it up in three words. However I was looking for a response that would likely cause the blesser to scratch their head two minutes later and say to themselves “Hey, I thing I just got zinged”. As a reminder, if it matters to anyone, I was not considering the sneeze situation in particular but if the response works in the sneeze scenario as well that would be great.

  7. avatar DD Dropout says:

    Returning to the topic at hand-

    I know it is a challenging name to spell, but surely Dave? Three wrong spellings of the name of the founder of AA in one post is tragic. I have heard it said though, that ‘the devil is in the details’. :)

    It’s Madalyn Murray O?Hair

    For background information on her, try:

    http://www.atheists.org/visitors.center/OHairFamily/

    If ever there were a person that might have been cursed to live in interesting times, she is the one.

  8. avatar bernarda says:

    Pharyngula reports that Minnesota Atheists will have a weekly hour program on Air America. “Atheists Talk”.

    http://mnatheists.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=1

  9. avatar says:

    Comment from: sentinel

    Over and over again I hear you ranting in this blog about the VAST sums of money that you seem to believe some atheist organizations (or their leaders) have been able to gather from those of like mind in order to further their stated goals and objectives.

    You’re right…

    And in San Antonio, the feds explained what they believe happened to the $500,000 in gold coins that Fry, Karr, and Waters allegedly stole from O’Hair before murdering her and her two children in late 1995.

    http://www.dallasobserver.com/1999-07-29/news/lucky-break/

    So what is really bugging you so much in this area?

    Fair question. Exactly what do members get for their dues? How do members benefit when AA settles for an undisclosed sum of money?

    Oh they’ll tell you they’re protecting your rights, but anyone with any sense knows differently.

    It’s a classic MO. Create a crisis and then have the troops pay you to solve it…

    Are you worried that a little money (and very little at that) might give us some clout with politicians, legislators, and the media, or are you just trying to generally undermine the confidence of some atheists in their own organizations?

    Again, fair question. And I’ll answer with a question. Exactly what political “clout” has AA had with your money?

    I would suggest that someone as obviously religious as you might serve your cause better by focusing on how your own organizations are using the money they have fleeced from their flock.

    Fleeced? Interesting choice of words…you tell me who’s being fleeced…exactly how many families in poverty has AA helped? How many mouths has AA fed in 3rd world countries? How many poor within our inner cities has AA helped educate?

    Oh but I do keep an eye on our churches finances…and you’re free to review our financial records. You tell me why AA isn’t willing to be as transparent with their funds?

    Listen, I’m the first to believe individuals should be allowed to spend their money however they want to. But how many times do I hear people complain on this board about churches and their finances…?

    I’ll tell you what AA has given you for your money….Victimhood

    Enjoy it…

  10. avatar says:

    Comment from: Barbiebrains

    How much do you think the gigantic bronze “Praying Hands” statue cost Oral Roberts?

    Who knows…and why does it bother you what they spend? If they’ve broken the law then they should and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law…

    Next time you go into your school ask yourself how much your school board authorized to spend on the huge bronze plaque at it’s entrance…why are their names engraved in it, as if it was their money…?

    That has a much more direct impact upon your life…

  11. avatar dawnisis says:

    How much do you think the gigantic bronze “Praying Hands” statue cost Oral Roberts?

    phreedm replied:
    Who knows…and why does it bother you what they spend?

    phreedm’s and oral roberts god said:

    He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.
    Luke 3:11 KJV

    ?I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.
    Matthew 25:40 NIV

    Freely you have received, freely give.
    Matthew 10:8 NIV

    and of course the whole golden calf incident…..

    But, no, you guy’s aren’t hypocrits.

  12. avatar dawnisis says:

    Interesting choice of words…you tell me who’s being fleeced…exactly how many families in poverty has AA helped? How many mouths has AA fed in 3rd world countries? How many poor within our inner cities has AA helped educate?

    Interesting choice of words…you tell me who’s being fleeced…exactly how many people has your religion burned alive? How many anti-science think tanks has your religion funded? How many exorcisms has your religion performed? How many child molesters has your religion helped?

  13. avatar what says:

    dawnisis

    The truth is that nobody knows if religious charities are cost effective.

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