Check out the article from Talk to Action about H. Res. 888 linked to in the title to this posting.We have created a Godless American Political Action Committee Action Alert to try and stop the 31 sponsors of this disgusting resolution. As the article makes clear, the Whereas’s to this resolution are filled with half-truths, lies and damned lies. The worst part of this resolution is the attempt it makes to rewrite our nation’s history with lies. They want this trash taught in our schools. They want our history to say that America was never a nation of freedom loving liberty worshipers. We have always been a bunch of Christians and only Christians. There are no minorities and if there are any, they don’t count in America.My question is simple: if this a Christian nation under God and God rules; then why in the hell do these pandering politicians keep asking me (a mere mortal) to vote? If God rules, then let him elect these pandering politicians. But take action, read the alert and send a message loud and clear to your Representatives. Thanks.Peter Nuhn
phreedm,
FREEMASONS. Every founding father was a freemason. The Declaration of Independence is based on freemason philosophy. George Bush is a self admitted freemason. Every president has been a freemason. The freemason’s tell all members to adopt the majority religion in order to gain power.
Your money has FREEMASON symbols on it. Look it up.
The church of england was murdering freemasons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry#Religious_opposition
phreedm,
Whatever you want to believe doesn’t change was is and I feel sorry for you.
The founding fathers destroyed the rule of the church on purpose and they told the sheeple whatever they had to in order to get them to fight.
Learn history. I have Freemason books from the 1700′s and you can call a rare book dealer right now and buy them. I recommend the encyclopedic sets. I also have the personal papers of george washington which was distributed as a book to freemasons.
karen,
Fixed now! (thanks to Chris Rodda) It is worth reading the part that wasn’t there before and the comment from Bruce Wilson.
Here is a link to buy the books.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=history+of+freemasonry&pn=&sortby=1&x=63&y=16
I brought up a set I personally have.
Comment from: dawnisis
Untrue. Period.
Which is what? Spell it out and it’s source.
phreedm,
Regardless of the number of instances where God is referenced in historical documents (currency, Pledge of Alleg…etc.), the ruling authority is the U.S. Constitution.
We can reference all 66 Chapters of the Bible all we want but it has no legal power here.
phreedm,
I a even gonna go the extra mile for you. I am gonna get my freemason books and scan in the founding of our country and why it came about.
I will set up a webpage and I will personally email you a link.
I will also post the web addy here for my atheist peeps so we never have to have this discussion about why this country was founded again.
It will take an hour or 2 bbs.
Comment from: atheon
Agreed. But that’s not what this thread is about.
Interesting…
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/1/4/24725/53989
So sorry to ‘ring your bell’, & wreck your pretty story, phreddy.
To Peter Nuhm :
Peter, thanks for covering this. Here’s a branding ( or “framing” ) idea.
I’m thinking it might be productive to start branding Congressman Randy Forbes and the 31 co-sponsors of House Resolution 888 as :
“The Fake History 32″
If you ca think of a snappier way of putting this I’m all ears !
Best, Bruce Wilson
KA…
Nice try. But your response has absolutely zero to do with the discussion…
Phreed
Please define what a spirit or soul
actually is.What are its properties,
by what means does it enter or leave
the body? I really would like to hear
your answer.
By the way, I attended a cathoilc school for 11 years so I am well versed in the scriptures.
I started a blog for everyone to see some of my encyclopedic set of the freemasons.
I am in the progress of updating obviously and I will be adding scanned pages next, only the photos are up so far.
Let me know if you have any problems viewing it.
http://aiaproject.blogspot.com/
Dawn
I had no problem opening the blog. Looks promising.
All the text I photographed didn’t turn out because of the flash, so I am scanning now.
I am glad I started this it will be good to have a digital version of these books. I have other masonic books too, but I will just do one set at a time.
How so? You drag the bell out as an example, the facts show that it had zero ‘to do’ w/the discussion.
karen – the rest of it can be found at the unread link I gave phreddy.
Comment from: IVORY GIRL
So…why ask then?
KA…
My response was to this question…
Comment from: Hoodlum
Now Phreedm, tell me where freedom of speech, religion, and association are endorsed in the Bible?
KA
Thanks. I saw rna2dna’s update that the post had been fixed and went back and read the rest of it earlier today.
Was tickled by the explanation of the *church* services in the capitol that phreddy is so excited about, but since I made a resolution not to respond to him, I didn’t post anything about it. Just enjoyed a private chuckle.
I am currently procrastinating about composing an email to my area representative, who is a cosponsor of this resolution. Trying to wait until the invective wears off and I can produce something more politely persuasive.
Comment from: reason
And if he did…your point is?
This resolution is good news for the creepy Oral Roberts Mafia and their budding “Six Flags Over Jesus” theme park. Wanna guess how much taxpayers will fork over for a 10 ft bronze replica of Jesus’s head plus crown-of-thorns, neon tears and that trademark compassionate smile???
Dontcha know it’s about the money???
“Whereas throughout the American Founding, Congress frequently appropriated money for missionaries and for religious instruction, a practice that Congress repeated for decades after the passage of the Constitution and the First Amendment;”
I caught all that. So then you haul out this hoary old chestnut about the LB as an example. When it’s proven that the bell played absolutely NO PART in America’s founding (it wasn’t even a symbol for anything until 1838), somehow, miraculously, the goalposts move.
Oh wait: there’s no such thing as miracles. You’re just being disengenous.
Hardly a shock.
Let’s face it: you derive your ‘info’ (disinfo would be a better word) from spin, rather than actual facts.
Barton’s a lying sack. I found that out early on. No, old Scratch hisself tain’t whisperin’ in me ear. Good ole reality’s good enuff for me.
Like I said JCc,
STOP, trying to force. That is the problem. Go do your church in your church, get out of my government and my life. Get it?
KA…tough to see through your hatred and superiority eh?
Don’t waste my time…it’s obvious you can’t follow the discussion…
Phreedm,
How about stop wasting OUR time…it’s obvious that every time you breathe, you are stealing oxygen from the rest of us.
phreedm, go read the MD constitution, it forbids atheists from holding public office.
The Leviticus quote? Likely it’s applicable only to the Israelites. They kept slaves around then, didn’t they? Took them from conquered tribes, no?
Fact is, I caught you out on yet ANOTHER 1 of your religious fibs – trying to plant seeds again, aintcha?
US doomed if president doesn’t believe in evolution:
http://www.physorg.com/news118756781.html#javascript
Comment from: quantum_flux [Member]
http://www.physorg.com/news118756781.html
A better question to ask a presidential candidate than “do you believe in creationism” is whether they believe in “destructionism”.
Do they believe Genesis and Revelation, and possibly all of the crap in between too? I posit that almost all of the US presidential candidates on the right side do in fact beleive in the “science of destructionism” as well as in the “science of creationism.”
This article is not that far off in talking about doomsday being brought on for the faithfully believing christian right. There is, indeed, the same amount of concern for the US today as there was for NAZI Germany in 1930.