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American Traitors Deny Constitution, Rewrite History

Please take a moment to email these wonderful America-Haters and tell them what you think. It is my opinion that NO Non-Christian (or patriotic Christian) should EVER vote for any of these individuals again.http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hr110-847

Resolved, That the House of Representatives–(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world

Bigoted Traitors include ALMOST ALL REPUBLICANS!:Rep. Steve King [R-IA]hide cosponsorsCosponsors [as of 2007-12-12]Rep. Todd Akin [R-MO]Rep. Michele Bachmann [R-MN]Rep. Richard Baker [R-LA]Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]Rep. Rob Bishop [R-UT]Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX]Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA]Rep. Henry Brown [R-SC]Rep. Virginia Brown-Waite [R-FL]Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]Rep. John Carter [R-TX]Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]Rep. David Davis [R-TN]Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY]Rep. John Doolittle [R-CA]Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]Rep. James Forbes [R-VA]Rep. Jeffrey Fortenberry [R-NE]Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ]Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]Rep. Robin Hayes [R-NC]Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]Rep. Walter Herger [R-CA]Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA]Rep. Samuel Johnson [R-TX]Rep. Walter Jones [R-NC]Rep. Jim Jordan [R-OH]Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]Rep. John Kline [R-MN]Rep. John Kuhl [R-NY]Rep. Ray LaHood [R-IL]Rep. Doug Lamborn [R-CO]Rep. Nicholas Lampson [D-TX]Rep. Daniel Lungren [R-CA]Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX]Rep. Patrick Mchenry [R-NC]Rep. Mike McIntyre [D-NC]Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers [R-WA]Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]Rep. Marilyn Musgrave [R-CO]Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA]Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]Rep. Bill Sali [R-ID]Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE]Rep. Todd Tiahrt [R-KS]Rep. Timothy Walberg [R-MI]Rep. David Weldon [R-FL]Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]Rep. Donald Young [R-AK]

162 Responses to “American Traitors Deny Constitution, Rewrite History”

  1. avatar jcc says:

    rna2dna:

    karen is much nicer to you than you are to her.

    Really? Wow! Sure, I?ve been stern with her on occassion, but not “nice?”?as in rude, or insulting? Could you please point out where I haven?t been “nice” to her?

  2. avatar jcc says:

    KnowledgeIsPower:

    Actually, that was the reason for my original belligerence.

    So, is that how you normally react to anyone who has a difference of opinion with you?

    I was looking forward to discussing current affairs with fellow atheists, but my inability to escape the company of theists I found extremely irritating.

    But I didn?t hold a gun to your head to make you react to my posts?

    I’ve since moderated my opinion.

    Due to what?

  3. avatar KnowledgeIsPower says:

    So, is that how you normally react to anyone who has a difference of opinion with you?
    When the opinion involves unsubstantiated claims and asking loaded questions… Yep.

    But I didn?t hold a gun to your head to make you react to my posts?
    Which is why I have since decided that there’s really no reason to respond to you. I just thought you’d like an explanation and an apology.

    Due to what?
    A subsequent indifference to your presence.

  4. avatar Ren says:

    That?s it, let it all out! Vent all that rage by wanting to kill the messenger and ignore the message!

    Thanks for the invitation. It feels good to vent, now and then.

    Hey, you gotta’ give me credit. At least I have gotten back to addressing you by your name and not Billy Goats Gruff. Besides, I don’t want to kill the messenger. I don’t want to kill anyone! I will continue to ignore the message, though. It is hard to ignore a broken record, but with a little effort….

  5. avatar karen says:

    jcc

    And what?s so hard about understanding that having a soul and consciously acknowledging that fact are not interdependent on each other? Don?t you remember rainbows4dinosaurs? favorite bugaboo of ?cognitive dissonance?? (and do you not consider me to share in phreedm?s ?hysterical? view of abortion?)

    Why would I consciously acknowledge something I don’t consciously accept in the first place? No, I don’t remember what R4D said about cognitive dissonance. Teflon memory. I’d have to find it and reread it. But thanks for reminding me of him. I miss him. Yes, you would share phreedm’s hysterical view on abortion. You just haven’t, that I recall, shared any graphic photos or videos for our perusal.

    ?And never mind the reality that so many aspects of it are left as articles of faith?even within the scientific community itself?

    They would only be articles of faith if there was no evidence at all.

    But, besides all that, can?t the same be said of Christian theology?

    Yes and no. Christianity is entirely an article of faith. There is no evidence to support it.

    Yes. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

    Children.

    Or does the maxim go, the LESS mature your faith is, the better behaved you are. ?

    See, you?re catching-on (actually, as you know, I think you were on the right track to catching-on years ago?and I think our conversations here are slowly re-validating it for you ;-) ).

    I was being sarcastic about the not perfect/forgiven thing. I think that’s such a crock; a get out of jail free card for hypocrites. I don’t know what you’re referring to about years ago. With my memory problems you’re going to have to be more specific.

    Well, we?ll see?

    What, do I need to have my son send you an email when I kick the bucket?
    “jcc, Mom died, still an atheist. She donated her body to science.”

  6. avatar rna2dna says:

    jcc,

    “stern with her”, you fucking dick! Who do you think you are, god ass?

    I would answer your question but…

    1. You didn’t answer mine to you.

    2. People answer your “questions”, which you don’t ask with sincerity but with malice all the time. You simply ignore them.

    3. Go back though your comments and think about them as if you were an Atheist (if you can, which I doubt, I think you LACK that ability). Pick out the ones you might think are rude and/or insulting. If you do that then I might respond in a less than hostile manner.

    You fucking jackass!

    Now are you insulted by my tone? Well, guess what, your ‘I’ve got God on my side’ tone is insulting too.

    However, the words that offend you are not usually that offensive to atheist because they know they are just words. But, I will admit they can be offensive within a civil conversation between people that are not well acquainted. However, you and your kind don’t need to get your pampers in a twist about it either.

    You also must get it through your thick head that evolution happened and is happening, to not accept that is a BIG minus for you. Now, you can possibly attribute that to your god-idea, however, if you do that you would have to admit that your god-idea is either very deceptive or a complete imbecile. Why? (you might ask) Because, if you study evolution you will find that it is simply too convoluted to have any intelligence involved. That is why those that use their brains a little bit but, still believe in some rendition of your god-idea said ‘wait a minute yes, evolution did happen but, goddoneit’. The problem is, and the reason intelligent design has fallen out of favor, it that, they then have to accept that their god-idea must be wacko.

    jcc, how many innocent children have you molested, mentally and/or physically?

  7. avatar jcc says:

    rna2dna:

    You simply ignore them.

    Ok! Now it?s clear that you understand what?s going on, so? Goodbye!

  8. avatar jcc says:

    karen:

    Why would I consciously acknowledge something I don’t consciously accept in the first place?

    No no, it?s ?consciously acknowledging something that you subconsciously accept??therein lies the ?cognitive dissonance.?

    Yes, you would share phreedm’s hysterical view on abortion. You just haven’t, that I recall, shared any graphic photos or videos for our perusal.

    Did those pictures affect you in any way?

    They would only be articles of faith if there was no evidence at all.

    Which is precisely my point. How often is evolution used as the fallback reason to explain what eludes science altogether?

    Christianity is entirely an article of faith. There is no evidence to support it.

    Have you ever considered looking into archaeological evidences for New Testament events?

    Children.

    I?m afraid I don?t understand. Isn?t the behavior of children directly affected by their belief in Santa Claus?

    Or does the maxim go, the LESS mature your faith is, the better behaved you are?

    I?m still not sure I follow.

    I was being sarcastic about the not perfect/forgiven thing. I think that’s such a crock; a get out of jail free card for hypocrites.

    Why do you say it?s ?get out of jail free?? Who ever said that accepting God?s grace also absolves one from facing the consequences of his/her actions? That?s not being hypocritical?it?s facing reality, but also provides comfort for those who are truly repentant. What kind of comfort does atheism offer its adherents in that situation?

    I don’t know what you’re referring to about years ago. With my memory problems you’re going to have to be more specific.

    I was talking about your early exposure to Christianity.

    What, do I need to have my son send you an email when I kick the bucket?

    No, I meant your life is far from over, and given your desire for finding the truth in life, I believe if you continue on that path, then you?ll eventually find it.

  9. avatar rna2dna says:

    jcc,

    Ok! Now it?s clear that you understand what?s going on

    Now lets see if we can put some of that clear understanding into practice, shall we?

    You could start by answering my questions. You are getting far behind.

  10. avatar rna2dna says:

    jcc,

    you subconsciously accept

    jcc, you are the only one that does that. It is disingenuous for you to state that other share your problem.

    Did those pictures affect you in any way?

    Yes, it made me wonder why christians don’t support contraceptives.

    Which is precisely my point. How often is evolution used as the fallback reason to explain what eludes science altogether?
    Never.

    Have you ever considered looking into archaeological evidences for New Testament events?

    Yes! There were towns and people that acted like christians act today.

    Isn?t the behavior of children directly affected by their belief in Santa Claus?

    Only children unfortunate enough to be raised by christians.

    I?m still not sure I follow.

    If you weren’t spending so much time reading fairy tales, you would have time to work on comprehension. (It really was easy to follow.)

    Why do you say it?s ?get out of jail free??

    Because decent people, that is the ones that aren’t christian, think about the consequences of their actions before they act. Christians don’t because they know they will not be punished if they sprinkle some god on their act.

    What kind of comfort does atheism offer its adherents in that situation?

    The acceptance that people can change and do better if they try and are given a good environment to live in.

    I was talking about your early exposure to Christianity.

    Same as other thinking humans, christianity is painfully unbelievable.

    No, I meant your life is far from over, and given your desire for finding the truth in life, I believe if you continue on that path, then you?ll eventually find it.

    I’ve already found the truth in life. Do you think you will? (find the truth, as you are currently looking in the wrong place (I’m sure you know that.))

  11. avatar karen says:

    jcc
    Sorry for the delayed response. Last night was Solstice, and I had a wedding to go to today. Church of God (bleah)w-a-y out in the sticks, (my friend says that’s better for catching the snakes for handling).

    No no, it?s ?consciously acknowledging something that you subconsciously accept??therein lies the ?cognitive dissonance.?
    I checked with my subconscious. It doesn’t accept it either.

    Did those pictures affect you in any way?

    In the same way that looking at ren’s war photos did, or looking at roadkill does. Actually, sometimes roadkill others me more, for the simple reason that so few other people give a shit about it.

    Which is precisely my point. How often is evolution used as the fallback reason to explain what eludes science altogether?

    Evolution is used to explain that to which evolution pertains, nothing more. It is not a magic catch-all solution, and no scientist or free-thinker that I know of pretends that it is, or tries to use it as one.

    Have you ever considered looking into archaeological evidences for New Testament events?

    I read articles and saw the show about the archaeological search for Christ’s tomb. Nothing beyond that.

    I?m afraid I don?t understand. Isn?t the behavior of children directly affected by their belief in Santa Claus?

    Are you really going for a case for maturity of belief in Santa?

    I?m still not sure I follow.

    Children don’t have a maturity of faith in god. But they behave better than adults, who presumably have more maturity of faith.

    Why do you say it?s ?get out of jail free?? Who ever said that accepting God?s grace also absolves one from facing the consequences of his/her actions? That?s not being hypocritical?it?s facing reality, but also provides comfort for those who are truly repentant.

    I say that because of the numerous times I’ve heard xians use the phrase, often as a substitute for an apology, and it’s very back-handed. “Oh well, you know, Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven.” And because of the way I observe xians living their lives. They don’t even try to live up to the rules set up for them. They all must feel pretty secure about facing the consequences. Of course, we all know that can be sorted oout with one big pouty, but heart-felt “I’m sowwy, God” on the death-bed, if nothing else. So basically, one can still be an ass till the last minute, and still get forgiven.

    What kind of comfort does atheism offer its adherents in that situation?

    The atheist offers apologies to the person wronged, and offer to make amends. S/He can take comfort in the
    fact that s/he faced up to her/his responsibilities and owned her/his actions. If the person who was wronged, offers forgiveness, great.
    If not, make the best of it. What more do you want?

    I was talking about your early exposure to Christianity.

    No, that was definitely the wrong track for me, then and now. I couldn’t do anything about it as a child; I can now.

    No, I meant your life is far from over, and given your desire for finding the truth in life, I believe if you continue on that path, then you?ll eventually find it.

    I am not searching for “the truth” in life. I have all the truth I need. “I’m halfway from coal, halfway to diamond.” -REM

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