Comments on: Religion in politics http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics A Blog of Atheist Thought Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:46:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mdetrano http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71010 mdetrano Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71010 <blockquote>And.. 60% of Americans are bigoted and ignorant, and would not vote for an Atheist</blockquote><br /> <br /> If I got the turnout numbers right, many elections are won by maybe 25%-30% of voting-eligible Americans. A candidate who campaigns strongly on reason and secularism my turnout a good chunk of those 40% who *would* vote for an atheist (especially since so many atheists are sick of hearing about a candidate's religion).<br /> <br /> I think an atheist could make a very strong showing in a run for president, especially if they get that 15% block of atheists to all show up on election day.

And.. 60% of Americans are bigoted and ignorant, and would not vote for an Atheist

If I got the turnout numbers right, many elections are won by maybe 25%-30% of voting-eligible Americans. A candidate who campaigns strongly on reason and secularism my turnout a good chunk of those 40% who *would* vote for an atheist (especially since so many atheists are sick of hearing about a candidate’s religion).

I think an atheist could make a very strong showing in a run for president, especially if they get that 15% block of atheists to all show up on election day.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71011 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71011 RON PAUL 2008! RON PAUL 2008!

]]> By: IVORY GIRL http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71015 IVORY GIRL Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71015 mdetrano said<br /> <br /> "I think an atheist could make a very strong showing in a run for president, especially if they get that 15% block of atheists to all show up on election day." <br /> <br /> The figure is more like 18% which in real numbers is around 5.7 million<br /> people and mostly in the 20 to 35<br /> age range.Not good enough for President perhaps but they could make a inpact on the voting. mdetrano said

“I think an atheist could make a very strong showing in a run for president, especially if they get that 15% block of atheists to all show up on election day.”

The figure is more like 18% which in real numbers is around 5.7 million
people and mostly in the 20 to 35
age range.Not good enough for President perhaps but they could make a inpact on the voting.

]]> By: GodFree&Glad http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71018 GodFree&Glad Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71018 I'm not much enthused about any would-be nominee this time around, but in all fairness, I doubt a Hillary Clinton presidency would differ in any measurable degree from the so-so god-emphasis we saw when her husband was president. And I doubt anybody can get elected in this country without at least some lip-service to the magic man.<br /> <br /> Actually, I don't care if the president is a believer. Evidently every past president has been a believer, or so we were led to believe. I just want to have whoever is elected 1.) Not hear voices and think it is god talking to him/her, and 2.) Go to church if that's what they want or need, but keep it out of my face and out of public policy. I’m not much enthused about any would-be nominee this time around, but in all fairness, I doubt a Hillary Clinton presidency would differ in any measurable degree from the so-so god-emphasis we saw when her husband was president. And I doubt anybody can get elected in this country without at least some lip-service to the magic man.

Actually, I don’t care if the president is a believer. Evidently every past president has been a believer, or so we were led to believe. I just want to have whoever is elected 1.) Not hear voices and think it is god talking to him/her, and 2.) Go to church if that’s what they want or need, but keep it out of my face and out of public policy.

]]> By: karen http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71019 karen Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71019 Yeah, but didn't only about 45% of the people even vote in the last presidential election?<br /> <br /> We need to get more atheists off their butts and to the polls.<br /> <br /> <blockquote>Clinton and Edwards, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. </blockquote><br /> I think Edwards is a true Jesus follower. Something tells me Hillary pulls him out of her sleeve when she needs to. I could be wrong, but If she got the office, I don't see her conferring with pastors to do the job. Yeah, but didn’t only about 45% of the people even vote in the last presidential election?

We need to get more atheists off their butts and to the polls.

Clinton and Edwards, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

I think Edwards is a true Jesus follower. Something tells me Hillary pulls him out of her sleeve when she needs to. I could be wrong, but If she got the office, I don’t see her conferring with pastors to do the job.

]]> By: TIMx13 http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71031 TIMx13 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71031 Karen, I'm with you. Call it a hunch, but I think Hillary's religion is politics. She knows that in order to be elected, she has to claim christianity and put on a show about going to church, but I think when it comes to the decision making it won't play a part. Karen, I’m with you. Call it a hunch, but I think Hillary’s religion is politics. She knows that in order to be elected, she has to claim christianity and put on a show about going to church, but I think when it comes to the decision making it won’t play a part.

]]> By: quantum_flux http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71032 quantum_flux Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71032 Well then, Obama it is. Well then, Obama it is.

]]> By: mdetrano http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71047 mdetrano Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71047 Anyone read Mitt's logical blunder:<br /> <br /> "Freedom requires religion, just as religion requires freedom"<br /> <br /> He's got the last part right, but the first part is so wrong as to be disturbing. Anyone read Mitt’s logical blunder:

“Freedom requires religion, just as religion requires freedom”

He’s got the last part right, but the first part is so wrong as to be disturbing.

]]> By: mushinronjya http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71053 mushinronjya Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71053 So let me get this straight... a person is not bigoted if they have intolerance and discrimination against theistic beliefs, since those beliefs are false, and you can't be a bigot against fallacious claims.<br /> <br /> ..but you are a bigot if you are such towards an atheist, since an atheist doesn't have positive claims about fictional beings or things that "atheism" could describe, right?<br /> <br /> I just want to make sure I've got this straight, because that's how I'm used to defining it insofar as how the word is used. So let me get this straight… a person is not bigoted if they have intolerance and discrimination against theistic beliefs, since those beliefs are false, and you can’t be a bigot against fallacious claims.

..but you are a bigot if you are such towards an atheist, since an atheist doesn’t have positive claims about fictional beings or things that “atheism” could describe, right?

I just want to make sure I’ve got this straight, because that’s how I’m used to defining it insofar as how the word is used.

]]> By: billh http://atheists.org/blog/2007/12/06/religion_in_politics/comment-page-1#comment-71057 billh Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-71057 Alex:<br /> I agree. Ron Paul may be our only choice. He is the least crazy of all.<br /> <br /> mushinronjya:<br /> ??? uh, you are an xtian I take it.<br /> <br /> We have no intolerance on what one believes. Believe what you want. I really don't care. <br /> <br /> But, don't expect us to vote for a person that believes in a 6000 year old universe. If that is what they believe, fine, but I don't feel I am bigoted for not voting for him cause he can not think logically. Alex:
I agree. Ron Paul may be our only choice. He is the least crazy of all.

mushinronjya:
??? uh, you are an xtian I take it.

We have no intolerance on what one believes. Believe what you want. I really don’t care.

But, don’t expect us to vote for a person that believes in a 6000 year old universe. If that is what they believe, fine, but I don’t feel I am bigoted for not voting for him cause he can not think logically.

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