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	<title>Comments on: When religious freedom goes too far</title>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70485</link>
		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...the same people protesting abortion clinics should be outside that place too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;the same people protesting abortion clinics should be outside that place too!</p>
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		<title>By: quantum_flux</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70487</link>
		<dc:creator>quantum_flux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s so f-d up!</description>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70489</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of Save the Zygote! but let the child die. &lt;br /&gt;
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I can sympathize with the quandary the docs were in in this case. Left to the guardian to decide, the boy for sure wasn&#039;t going to get the transfusion. Maybe they thought he&#039;d waffle on his beliefs when facing a death sentence, but apparently the brainwashing had been too thorough. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of Save the Zygote! but let the child die. </p>
<p>I can sympathize with the quandary the docs were in in this case. Left to the guardian to decide, the boy for sure wasn&#8217;t going to get the transfusion. Maybe they thought he&#8217;d waffle on his beliefs when facing a death sentence, but apparently the brainwashing had been too thorough.</p>
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		<title>By: mxracer652</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70490</link>
		<dc:creator>mxracer652</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree, the judge was right to let the decision be up to the boy.  14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll be damned if I let the state start telling people what they do to themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was the right decision for liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree, the judge was right to let the decision be up to the boy.  14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be damned if I let the state start telling people what they do to themselves.</p>
<p>This was the right decision for liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff_r</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70493</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff_r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Doctors at Children&#039;s diagnosed Lindberg&#039;s leukemia early this month and began giving him chemotherapy. Because such treatment destroys the body&#039;s ability to make red blood cells, transfusions were necessary, doctors said.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Why did the doctors give the boy chemo knowing he wouldn&#039;t allow the transfusions?  The answer better be that the aunt and boy agreed to the transfusions, then changed their minds.  Otherwise the doctors share the blame for hastening the boy&#039;s death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Doctors at Children&#8217;s diagnosed Lindberg&#8217;s leukemia early this month and began giving him chemotherapy. Because such treatment destroys the body&#8217;s ability to make red blood cells, transfusions were necessary, doctors said.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Why did the doctors give the boy chemo knowing he wouldn&#8217;t allow the transfusions?  The answer better be that the aunt and boy agreed to the transfusions, then changed their minds.  Otherwise the doctors share the blame for hastening the boy&#8217;s death.</p>
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		<title>By: GodFree&Glad</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70496</link>
		<dc:creator>GodFree&Glad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a hard one.  I have a problem with anybody telling anybody else what to do where that individuals own body is concerned.  The pity is the brain washing, yet under our form of government everybody has a right to believe and practice whatever nit-wit religious thing they choose even if it means abusing incocent children.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m assuming this was a Jehovah&#039;s Witness family.  I don&#039;t know much about them, but if the boy had been forced to have tranfusions then maybe his life, had he lived, would have been a living hell if blood transfusions damn you to their hell. Maybe there was no good decision here either way. &lt;br /&gt;
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Religion sure has a lot of down sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a hard one.  I have a problem with anybody telling anybody else what to do where that individuals own body is concerned.  The pity is the brain washing, yet under our form of government everybody has a right to believe and practice whatever nit-wit religious thing they choose even if it means abusing incocent children.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming this was a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness family.  I don&#8217;t know much about them, but if the boy had been forced to have tranfusions then maybe his life, had he lived, would have been a living hell if blood transfusions damn you to their hell. Maybe there was no good decision here either way. </p>
<p>Religion sure has a lot of down sides.</p>
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		<title>By: TIMx13</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70497</link>
		<dc:creator>TIMx13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t suicide some sort of unforgivable sin?  And refusing life-saving treatment is unforgivable?  Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t suicide some sort of unforgivable sin?  And refusing life-saving treatment is unforgivable?  Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Hunter</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70498</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its his decision. 14 years old? Not child abuse. Besides, one less zealot in the world to propagate the myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its his decision. 14 years old? Not child abuse. Besides, one less zealot in the world to propagate the myth.</p>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
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		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, that is a GREAT argument. Why aren&#039;t 14-year-olds allowed to buy alcohol and cigarettes then?&lt;br /&gt;
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I am all in favor of adult Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses refusing medical care because the faster these assholes die off the, the better.&lt;br /&gt;
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But in this case it is a minor and the guardian aunt and the judge are accessories to murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, that is a GREAT argument. Why aren&#8217;t 14-year-olds allowed to buy alcohol and cigarettes then?</p>
<p>I am all in favor of adult Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses refusing medical care because the faster these assholes die off the, the better.</p>
<p>But in this case it is a minor and the guardian aunt and the judge are accessories to murder.</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/29/when_religious_freedom_goes_too_far/comment-page-1#comment-70503</link>
		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mxracer&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Disagree, the judge was right to let the decision be up to the boy. 14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But he did not know the consequences. He obviously thought one of the consequences of refusing care would be some sort of retribution by his mythological deity. His parents misinformed the child and the child considered their misinformation to be fact in making his decision (if in fact it was his at all). The parents a guilty of abuse of the worst kind. &lt;br /&gt;
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Child Leukemias can often be virtually cured. I don&#039;t know anything about the histology and stage of this child&#039;s cancer but he may have had a good chance of long term survival. This is criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mxracer<br />
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Disagree, the judge was right to let the decision be up to the boy. 14 years old is old enough to know the consequences.</p></blockquote>
<p>But he did not know the consequences. He obviously thought one of the consequences of refusing care would be some sort of retribution by his mythological deity. His parents misinformed the child and the child considered their misinformation to be fact in making his decision (if in fact it was his at all). The parents a guilty of abuse of the worst kind. </p>
<p>Child Leukemias can often be virtually cured. I don&#8217;t know anything about the histology and stage of this child&#8217;s cancer but he may have had a good chance of long term survival. This is criminal.</p>
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