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		<title>By: Bill Maxfield</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/23/pledge_of_allegiance_protest/comment-page-1#comment-70215</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Maxfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud the effort to make the U.S. a more secular nation. A rally outside a Supreme Court building seems perfectly appropriate if the purpose is to gain media coverage. However, a rally intending to influence the Court&#039;s decision is an attempt to make the Court base it?s ruling on what used to be called &quot;mobs in the street.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the effort to make the U.S. a more secular nation. A rally outside a Supreme Court building seems perfectly appropriate if the purpose is to gain media coverage. However, a rally intending to influence the Court&#8217;s decision is an attempt to make the Court base it?s ruling on what used to be called &#8220;mobs in the street.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: billh</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/23/pledge_of_allegiance_protest/comment-page-1#comment-70217</link>
		<dc:creator>billh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:&lt;br /&gt;
Absolutely agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:<br />
Absolutely agree.</p>
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		<title>By: GodFree&Glad</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/23/pledge_of_allegiance_protest/comment-page-1#comment-70219</link>
		<dc:creator>GodFree&Glad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me?&lt;br /&gt;
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A &quot;mob in the steet&quot; brings to mind individuals who have spun out of control with violence in the offing.  Personally, I see nothing wrong with gathering outside the court building in an orderly fashion.  As for influencing the court, I doubt a gathering, no matter how large, will have much influence, but at least it sends a message that there are more atheists out here than the xians thought, and probably emboldens other non-believers to step forward in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am really pleased to see atheists coming together to this degree and wish California wasn&#039;t a world away from my homebase so that I could be counted in the numbers.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds as if Michael Newdow may be the next Madlyn Murray, but this time with class maybe. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me?</p>
<p>A &#8220;mob in the steet&#8221; brings to mind individuals who have spun out of control with violence in the offing.  Personally, I see nothing wrong with gathering outside the court building in an orderly fashion.  As for influencing the court, I doubt a gathering, no matter how large, will have much influence, but at least it sends a message that there are more atheists out here than the xians thought, and probably emboldens other non-believers to step forward in the future.</p>
<p>I am really pleased to see atheists coming together to this degree and wish California wasn&#8217;t a world away from my homebase so that I could be counted in the numbers.  </p>
<p>Sounds as if Michael Newdow may be the next Madlyn Murray, but this time with class maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbiebrains</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/23/pledge_of_allegiance_protest/comment-page-1#comment-70220</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbiebrains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gathering to show support =having a voice.&lt;br /&gt;
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When will ya&#039;ll come to Texas and get rid of the new &quot;one STATE under god&quot; which was inserted in the reconfigured, grammatically bizarre, Texas State Pledge????? What&#039;s next...one homeroom under god? One cafeteria under god???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gathering to show support =having a voice.</p>
<p>When will ya&#8217;ll come to Texas and get rid of the new &#8220;one STATE under god&#8221; which was inserted in the reconfigured, grammatically bizarre, Texas State Pledge????? What&#8217;s next&#8230;one homeroom under god? One cafeteria under god???</p>
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		<title>By: Jack the Toad</title>
		<link>http://atheists.org/blog/2007/11/23/pledge_of_allegiance_protest/comment-page-1#comment-70221</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack the Toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty ... of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.&quot; (1816)&lt;br /&gt;
-- First chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, John Jay&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning been our guiding geniuses ... Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia ... or to the Charter of New England ... or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay ... or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut ... the same objective is present ... a Christian land governed by Christian principles. I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it: freedom of belief, of expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers to the people ... I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- [Liberal] Supreme Court chief justice, Earl Warren&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;... Let me live according to those holy rules which Thou hast this day prescribed in Thy holy word ... Direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the way, the truth and the life. Bless, O Lord, all the people of this land.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- George Washington&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- George Washington&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- Thomas Jefferson&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;No power over the freedom of religion [is] delegated to the United States by the Constitution.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- James Madison&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not on the power of government...[but] upon the capacity of each and every one of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- John Quincy Adams&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;All must admit that the reception of the teachings of Christ results in the purest patriotism, in the most scrupulous fidelity to public trust, and in the best type of citizenship.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- Grover Cleveland&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;In this actual world, a churchless community, a community where men have abandoned and scoffed at, or ignored their religious needs, is a community on the rapid down-grade.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- Teddy Roosevelt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of the Holy Scripture.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- Woodrow Wilson&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;They [the Founding Fathers] were intent upon establishing a Christian commonwealth in accordance with the principle of self-government. They were an inspired body of men. It has been said that God sifted the nations that He might send choice grain into the wilderness ... Who can fail to see it in the hand of Destiny? Who can doubt that it has been guided by a Divine Providence?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- Calvin Coolidge&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-- John Adams&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let it go folks, you couldn&#039;t be more wrong headed if you tried.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty &#8230; of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.&#8221; (1816)<br />
&#8211; First chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, John Jay</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that the Good Book and the spirit of the Savior have from the beginning been our guiding geniuses &#8230; Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia &#8230; or to the Charter of New England &#8230; or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay &#8230; or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut &#8230; the same objective is present &#8230; a Christian land governed by Christian principles. I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it: freedom of belief, of expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers to the people &#8230; I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; [Liberal] Supreme Court chief justice, Earl Warren</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Let me live according to those holy rules which Thou hast this day prescribed in Thy holy word &#8230; Direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the way, the truth and the life. Bless, O Lord, all the people of this land.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; George Washington</p>
<p>&#8220;Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; George Washington</p>
<p>&#8220;Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Thomas Jefferson</p>
<p>&#8220;No power over the freedom of religion [is] delegated to the United States by the Constitution.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; James Madison</p>
<p>&#8220;We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not on the power of government&#8230;[but] upon the capacity of each and every one of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; John Quincy Adams</p>
<p>&#8220;All must admit that the reception of the teachings of Christ results in the purest patriotism, in the most scrupulous fidelity to public trust, and in the best type of citizenship.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Grover Cleveland</p>
<p>&#8220;In this actual world, a churchless community, a community where men have abandoned and scoffed at, or ignored their religious needs, is a community on the rapid down-grade.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Teddy Roosevelt</p>
<p>&#8220;America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of the Holy Scripture.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Woodrow Wilson</p>
<p>&#8220;They [the Founding Fathers] were intent upon establishing a Christian commonwealth in accordance with the principle of self-government. They were an inspired body of men. It has been said that God sifted the nations that He might send choice grain into the wilderness &#8230; Who can fail to see it in the hand of Destiny? Who can doubt that it has been guided by a Divine Providence?&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Calvin Coolidge</p>
<p>
&#8220;Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; John Adams</p>
<p>Let it go folks, you couldn&#8217;t be more wrong headed if you tried.</p>
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