http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=NSPJHT4BQROMVQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/10/24/wpio124.xml
Padre Pio, Italy’s most-loved saint, faked his stigmata by pouring carbolic acid on his hands, according to a new book.The Other Christ: Padre Pio and 19th Century Italy, by the historian Sergio Luzzatto, draws on a document found in the Vatican’s archive.The document reveals the testimony of a pharmacist who said that the young Padre Pio bought four grams of carbolic acid in 1919. “I was an admirer of Padre Pio and I met him for the first time on 31 July 1919,” wrote Maria De Vito. She claimed to have spent a month with the priest in the southern town of San Giovanni Rotondo, seeing him often.”Padre Pio called me to him in complete secrecy and telling me not to tell his fellow brothers, he gave me personally an empty bottle, and asked if I would act as a chauffeur to transport it back from Foggia to San Giovanni Rotondo with four grams of pure carbolic acid.”He explained that the acid was for disinfecting syringes for injections. He also asked for other things, such as Valda pastilles.”The testimony was originally presented to the Vatican by the Archbishop of Manfredonia, Pasquale Gagliardi, as proof that Padre Pio caused his own stigmata with acid.It was examined by the Holy See during the beatification process of Padre Pio and apparently dismissed.Padre Pio, whose real name was Francesco Forgione, died in 1968. He was made a saint in 2002. A recent survey in Italy showed that more people prayed to him than to Jesus or the Virgin Mary. He exhibited stigmata throughout his life, starting in 1911.The new allegations were greeted with an instant dismissal from his supporters. The Catholic Anti-Defamation League said Mr Luzzatto was a liar and was “spreading anti-Catholic libels”.Pietro Siffi, the president of the League, said: “We would like to remind Mr Luzzatto that according to Catholic doctrine, canonisation carries with it papal infallibility.“We would like to suggest to Mr Luzzatto that he dedicates his energies to studying religion properly.”
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So when does Patricia Arquette get canonized?
If religions and religious institutions like the Vatican were ever forced to conform to democratic norms regarding freedom of information, I bet a lot of crazy stuff like this would come out.
What was it Old Abe said . . you can fool some of the people all of the time and some of the people part of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of time. It was something like that, wasn’t it? He must have heard about Catholics when he said that part about fooling some of the people ALL the time.
That’s all the ripe ingredients of a cult. Denial in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Suckers.
Ooooohhh!!! Does somebody get to pour carbolic acid on her?
Dunno who said it first. It was certainly popular back in the day. You mangled it a little.
Some people all the time.
All people some of the time.
But not all people, all the time.
This “historical” book is irrevalent…
It’s written 30 years after Padre Pio died…and any good atheist knows you can’t trust a book written “after” someone’s death…
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Actually that was funny phreedum.
Yeah, imagine the religion David Copperfield could create if he had the mind to do it. Or any amateur magician for that matter. I think P.T. Barnum/ George Hull put it best. There’s a catholic born every minute.
Godfree, some comic modified that statement a few years ago by adding,
“But you can fool enough of the people enough of the time.”
Pope Benedickhead seems to think there is safety in numbers among the heavenly host.
” VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican took on Spain’s Socialst government Sunday, criticizing its social policies as the church beatified nearly 500 victims of leftist persecution during the country’s civil war era.
The ceremony was the largest mass beatification ever by the Vatican, which supported the fascist dictatorship of Gen. Francisco Franco during and after his war against the leftists.
Some in Spain questioned the timing of the beatification of the 498 martyrs, which came three days before Spain’s parliament is expected to pass a Socialst-sponsored law that will for the first time formally condemn Franco’s rule and order the removal of all fascist symbols from the country.”
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VATICAN_SPAIN_BEATIFICATIONS?SITE=MAQUI&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Of course the Spanish Catholic Church was/is completely reactionary and supported the fascist Franco against the republic.
Spain is also home to the fascist Opus Dei, whose founder was also beatified a few years ago. A French former member has just published a book about her experiences,
“Dans l’enfer de l’opus dei”–In the Hell of Opus Dei.
Interesting, but off topic, article:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200710250639.html
I saw that movie. I liked it. Religion makes for good fiction.
From Alex’s article…
I do hope they have a backup plan.
Paraphrase of Pietro Siffi:
*OFF TOPIC*
I don’t know if any of you are aware that this site is being infiltrated with cowardly christian “trolls” in ancient posts. I accidentally found out by hitting the “last comments” in a moment of curiosity.
666,
Yes, you are correct, the christian does have a tendency to slink around.
I read the blog mainly from the “last comments” link, and see most of the sneakiness that the christian exhibits. I think karen and a few others read the “last comments” as well. Some times I wish the “last comments” were a couple of pages deep so I could ensure that I am not missing anything if I am unable to get to the blog on a timely basis.
What,
Now that was damn funny…So funny I nearly choked…and I thought Miss Poppy had cornered the stigmata market with her crappy $4.95 stigmata tattoos…Catholic party tricks…
After which every member of the Catholic Anti-defamation League promptly returned their heads to their asses (apparently to illustrate the proper method of studying religion).
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