Comments on: A Christian Nation or Not http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not A Blog of Atheist Thought Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:43:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sword_strike http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68416 sword_strike Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68416 Well, I've rarely met a christian who wasn't also a hippocrite. (Spanders being the only exeption that comes to mind at the moment) <br /> <br /> So what you describe might be the most christian nation of all!<br /> <br /> Well, I’ve rarely met a christian who wasn’t also a hippocrite. (Spanders being the only exeption that comes to mind at the moment)

So what you describe might be the most christian nation of all!

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68417 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68417 A nation of xians is not the same as a xian nation. <br /> <br /> Our Constitution is a wholly godless document and those who wish that we were founded as a xian nation are in serious need of American history lessons. I challenge any xians reading this to offer definitive historical evidence that the USA was founded as a xian nation. It can't be done.<br /> <br /> <br /> A nation of xians is not the same as a xian nation.

Our Constitution is a wholly godless document and those who wish that we were founded as a xian nation are in serious need of American history lessons. I challenge any xians reading this to offer definitive historical evidence that the USA was founded as a xian nation. It can’t be done.

]]> By: Ren http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68418 Ren Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68418 Peter,<br /> <br /> Don't forget the Christmas Eve Firebombing of Dresden in '44. It is said to have resulted in the deaths of more civilians than both atomic bombs dropped on Japan, put together.<br /> <br /> Oh wait. That was THE DAY BEFORE Christmas. I guess that doesn't count. And they really had it comming to them on New Years Eve since they hadn't all died like good little Nazi's the week before. Peter,

Don’t forget the Christmas Eve Firebombing of Dresden in ‘44. It is said to have resulted in the deaths of more civilians than both atomic bombs dropped on Japan, put together.

Oh wait. That was THE DAY BEFORE Christmas. I guess that doesn’t count. And they really had it comming to them on New Years Eve since they hadn’t all died like good little Nazi’s the week before.

]]> By: 666 http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68422 666 Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68422 Peter,<br /> <br /> As I'm sure you are aware, the founding document of this country as a Nation is the Constitution. The word "God" doesn't appear anywhere in the text of this document. <br /> Not an accident! Not meant to be established as a Theocracy.<br /> <br /> However, there are certain examples in their (xtians) holy book which portray JC as being an uncaring asshole so it could be said that those who claim to be christians are behaving just like their model.<br /> <br /> Is that what you were getting at? Peter,

As I’m sure you are aware, the founding document of this country as a Nation is the Constitution. The word “God” doesn’t appear anywhere in the text of this document.
Not an accident! Not meant to be established as a Theocracy.

However, there are certain examples in their (xtians) holy book which portray JC as being an uncaring asshole so it could be said that those who claim to be christians are behaving just like their model.

Is that what you were getting at?

]]> By: karen http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68424 karen Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68424 If most of the topping on a pizza is pepperoni, but there's some mushrooms, and olives, and sausage and ham too, that doesn't mean you've got yourself a pepperoni pizza. <br /> <br /> No this isn't a christian nation. <br /> <br /> I'm hungry. If most of the topping on a pizza is pepperoni, but there’s some mushrooms, and olives, and sausage and ham too, that doesn’t mean you’ve got yourself a pepperoni pizza.

No this isn’t a christian nation.

I’m hungry.

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68425 Rusty Shackleford Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68425 The whole notion of a "Christian nation" is nonsensical. Jesus focused solely on the eminent (he thought) coming of the Kingdom of God. He had no use for earthly governments. He laid out no guidelines for governance. He certainly did not describe a bicameral legislature, a limited executive, or a system of checks and balances.<br /> <br /> In Jesus' view, all authority comes from God. If there were such thing as a "Christian nation" it would be, essentially, a dictatorship. That would be the only possible "Christian nation." A theocracy, in the most literal sense.<br /> <br /> In the U.S., all authority derives from the people. That is the <i>polar opposite</i> of a "Christian nation."<br /> <br /> The U.S. is <i>not</i> a "Christian nation." The whole notion of a “Christian nation” is nonsensical. Jesus focused solely on the eminent (he thought) coming of the Kingdom of God. He had no use for earthly governments. He laid out no guidelines for governance. He certainly did not describe a bicameral legislature, a limited executive, or a system of checks and balances.

In Jesus’ view, all authority comes from God. If there were such thing as a “Christian nation” it would be, essentially, a dictatorship. That would be the only possible “Christian nation.” A theocracy, in the most literal sense.

In the U.S., all authority derives from the people. That is the polar opposite of a “Christian nation.”

The U.S. is not a “Christian nation.”

]]> By: Dangerman http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68426 Dangerman Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68426 Peter,<br /> <br /> There are a few things that America might do as a Christian nation that I and probably everyone else in this blog ('cept phreedy) think is immoral. The consitutional amendment that that wonderful man in office tried to push through to ban gay marriage; very christian and very immoral. Also the constant veto of stem cell research; again very christian and very immoral. Supporting Israel despite all the shit that happens there...need I say more? <br /> <br /> I'm glad obama isn't too high up in support after his rambling in the south. <br /> <br /> Peter,

There are a few things that America might do as a Christian nation that I and probably everyone else in this blog (‘cept phreedy) think is immoral. The consitutional amendment that that wonderful man in office tried to push through to ban gay marriage; very christian and very immoral. Also the constant veto of stem cell research; again very christian and very immoral. Supporting Israel despite all the shit that happens there…need I say more?

I’m glad obama isn’t too high up in support after his rambling in the south.

]]> By: alexatheist http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68427 alexatheist Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68427 Maybe running this nation as a xian theocracy for a few years might be a good thing. Sometimes we forget just how good something is until we lose it and as Americans it is easy to take our way of life and freedom for granted. Can you imagine the backlash if laws were passed and enforced mandating literal scritpural law? Women treated as property, gays, adulterers, and rebellious children stoned to death, compulsory church attendance, no business on Sunday, science replaced by superstition. A theocratic xian America wouldn't last five minutes. <br /> <br /> Maybe running this nation as a xian theocracy for a few years might be a good thing. Sometimes we forget just how good something is until we lose it and as Americans it is easy to take our way of life and freedom for granted. Can you imagine the backlash if laws were passed and enforced mandating literal scritpural law? Women treated as property, gays, adulterers, and rebellious children stoned to death, compulsory church attendance, no business on Sunday, science replaced by superstition. A theocratic xian America wouldn’t last five minutes.

]]> By: Ren http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68428 Ren Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68428 Karen,<br /> <br /> Great analogy! Now I'm hungry, too. Karen,

Great analogy! Now I’m hungry, too.

]]> By: Ren http://atheists.org/blog/2007/10/19/a_christian_nation_or_not/comment-page-1#comment-68429 Ren Unknown, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-68429 Alex,<br /> <br /> I think you are on to something. I am a 100% cotton kind of guy, but I would have a hard time giving up shellfish.<br /> <br /> I'm all for stoning naughty people, but only those over eighteen years of age. Smoking is bad for developing lungs, and all ;-) Oh wait, you said stoned to death. I'm sorrry, I don't do herbicide. Alex,

I think you are on to something. I am a 100% cotton kind of guy, but I would have a hard time giving up shellfish.

I’m all for stoning naughty people, but only those over eighteen years of age. Smoking is bad for developing lungs, and all ;-) Oh wait, you said stoned to death. I’m sorrry, I don’t do herbicide.

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