Another FAKE Christian

WASHINGTON (Aug. 29) – Political support eroded significantly Wednesday for a Republican senator caught up in a sex scandal when three fellow Republicans in the U.S. Congress called for his resignation and party leaders pushed him from senior committee posts….Sen. Larry Craig “represents the Republican party,” said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the first Republican member of Congress to urge a resignation.The White House expressed disappointment – and nary a word of support for the 62-year-old lawmaker, who pleaded guilty earlier this month to a charge stemming from an undercover police operation in an airport men’s room.

Can’t… type…laughing…too….harrrdddddddd

34 Responses to “Another FAKE Christian”

  1.  dawnisis says:

    Laughing along with you!

    I wonder if the xian lemmings will ever realize they are being manipulated by these politians so they can attain power.

  2.  alexatheist says:

    The thing that is so infuriating to me is that Larry Craig having sex in a public toilet is in no way representative of gay men. Only those who are closeted need to resort to the tragically pathetic practice of seeking anonymous sex away from home in a public restroom. Open gay men meet each other through mutual friends or bars or the internet and we find Sen Craig’s actions just as creepy as most other people do.

  3.  what says:

    dawnisis

    I wonder if the xian lemmings will ever realize they are being manipulated by these politians so they can attain power.

    Yes they will. The Iraq Invasion, a economy heading toward disaster, and the corruption of the GOP (moral and political) is likely to spell the end of the party permanently.

  4.  reason says:

    when is bush going to be outed.come on alex fess up you go to d.c.area what kind of rumors have you heard.

  5.  alexatheist says:

    Reason,
    Two words: Jeff Gannon

  6.  bernarda says:

    I commented on another site that maybe Larry Craig’s campaign theme song is “Private Idaho” by the B-52’s.

    “You’re living in your own Private Idaho.
    You’re living in your own Private Idaho.

    Keep off the patio,
    keep off the path.
    The lawn may be green
    but you better not be seen
    walkin’ through the gate that leads you down,
    down to a pool fraught with danger
    is a pool full of strangers.

    You’re living in your own Private Idaho,
    where do I go from here to a better state than this.
    Well, don’t be blind to the big surprise
    swimming round and round like the deadly hand
    of a radium clock, at the bottom, of the pool.”

    On youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFyBH-z6c1w&mode=related&search=

  7.  Rusty Shackleford says:

    I know Craig was a right-winger but did he ever present himself as a christian conservative-type right-winger?

  8.  Boise Jim says:

    Rusty-
    Oh yeah, all our elected politicians are extreme right wingers that don’t hesitate to throw their xianity around.

    Statistically, we are the most red state in the country, so all a politician has to do here is say something about jeebus and the buybull and they’ll get elected.

    It’s very frustrating.

  9.  phreedm says:

    Since there is no such thing as a True Christian…only those trying to live the Christian life…

    Exactly what is a “Fake Christian”?

    Just one more example of not understanding the Christian faith…

    Is what he did hypocritical? Absolutely…

    But it will be up to the good people of Idaho to decide if he deserves re-election.

    Rep. Barney Frank says embattled Idaho Sen. Larry Craig is a hypocrite on gay rights issues, but he doesn’t think the Republican senator should resign…

    “I think people should resign when they have clearly done the job in a way that is dishonest.”

    http://www.examiner.com/a-906831~Frank_says_Craig_should_serve_out_term.html

    Unless of course it’s a Dem that we’re talking about…

    Can you say…William Jefferson and $90,000.00 in his freezer…?

    Seem’s hypcracy lives on both sides of the aisle…

  10. Tim Ren says:

    Exactly what is a “Fake Christian”?

    Anyone claiming to believe in Christ.

    Can you say…William Jefferson and $90,000.00 in his freezer…?

    Are you suggesting Rep. Jefferson is an Atheist? What is your point?

    I’ll bet you a thousand dollars he’s a “True Christian.”

    Seem’s hypcracy lives on both sides of the aisle…

    Maybe, but it would appear proof reading does not.

  11.  DVanWechel says:

    Since there is no such thing as a True Christian…only those trying to live the Christian life…

    Who is the individual that determines what a Christian life is?

    What are the parameters for determining a Christian-led life?

    Do they include things like the pursuit of personal wealth and
    support for war mongering?

  12.  Rusty Shackleford says:

    WWJPIAMR?

    (Who Would Jesus Proposition in a Men’s Room?)

  13.  alexatheist says:

    Rep Craig fought hard to pass a state ban in ID on marriage equality, he fought hard against allowing gays to serve openly in the military, and he fought against workplace discrimination for gays all wrapped up in a “family values” xian package for mass consumption by the easily controlled xian sheeple of ID, yet at the same time he is soliciting anonymous sex in men’s toilets. That is why he is a fake xian. Sen Craig has a long history of fighting gay rumours and I’m willing to bet that he has such compartmentalised thinking that although he has sex with men he doesn’t consider himself to be gay. It is a coping mechanism employed by self hating gay men. Sen Craig is a sad and pathetic product of a conservative xian upbringing but he is an adult who made a decision to dig himself a deep hole of deception and must take personal responsibility for his decision. Not only do I think he should resign for his hypocrisy in denying equality to me and all of the other gays across the nation but I would like to see his head on a stake in front of the ID capitol building (not really but the image is fitting). Closet cases who work against gay equality deserve nothing but the total destruction of their lives and whatever ends up happening to this bastard won’t be bad enough. Fuck him.

  14.  alexatheist says:

    ok I know this is off topic but it made me furious. This is for all of you who think that the British are so much more enlightened, progressive, and cultured than Americans. A bunch or bone idle layabouts collecting benefits provided by hard working Britons is closer to the truth. Now do you see why I’m so grateful that we left?:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=478548&in_page_id=1770

  15.  IVORY GIRL says:

    alexatheist

    I agree, that is one of the many reasons I moved from the UK.
    The USA was not my first choice but I am glad to be hear and I’m enjoying the new culture.Of course having people ram their religion down my throat is a new experience but I am learning to deal with it.

  16.  alexatheist says:

    IG,
    Was your first choice Australia? Trust me the USA is much better. My best friend’s mum is English born Australian now living in the USA and is even a bigger advocate for this country than I am. I’m not sure what part of the nation you are in but the great thing about this country is it’s size so if you you don’t like the climate or politics there is somewhere else to go to which is more to your liking.

  17.  IVORY GIRL says:

    alexatheist

    You are close New Zealand actually,
    the USA was my second choice.
    I live in Arizona (Tucson) and I attend college full time also acting as a part time science advisor to the state D.O.E.

  18.  Rusty Shackleford says:

    Ivory Girl,

    I’m jealous. Tucson is AWESOME. Spent two years there myself.

  19.  alexatheist says:

    I have been to Tucson four times and must say that it rocks! and it isn’t too overly religious. I had considered Phoenix for myself in the past but it would be too far from my family. Portland, OR is an atheist’s paradise and Seattle is too if you ever decide to leave AZ.

    They are now airing the MN police tapes of Sen Craig’s interview. He is heard saying that he is noit gay and doesn’t participate in that “sin”. This story just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

  20.  IVORY GIRL says:

    Rusty Shackleford
    I moved to Tucson six months ago,and live close to the University Of Arizona campus.I hiked in Sabino Canyon last weekend it was awsome.

    alexatheist. Thanks for the info,I will be here (U of A)for a couple
    more yesrs then who knows, I may give Seattle ot Portland a try.

  21.  phreedm says:

    Comment from: Ren

    Are you suggesting Rep. Jefferson is an Atheist? What is your point?

    Atheist? Not at all. Barney Frank, stated that “I think people should resign when they have clearly done the job in a way that is dishonest.”

    William Jefferson is accused of taking bribes and was caught with 90 grand in his freezer. Where’s the outrage from the left…?

    Side Note…Let’s not forget that Barney’s live-in boy friend was running a male prostitution ring out of Barney’s house…

  22.  what says:

    Ney
    Vitter
    Craig
    Delay
    Foley
    Stevens
    Abramoff
    Scanlon
    Cunningham
    Allen

    And I have definitely left off a few more under serious investigation. And then there’s

    Jefferson

  23.  what says:

    The ever dippy Preekdum can’t remember just a year or so ago when the Jefferson case broke. The top dems were quick to condemn Jefferson and ask for him to step down. What a senile turd that Phreeky.

  24.  bernarda says:

    How many dozens or even hundreds of xian sects are there? They all disagree with the others on some points of dogma. So for each of them, all the other xians, the grand majority, are fake xians.

  25.  bernarda says:

    Also, rusty asks, “I know Craig was a right-winger but did he ever present himself as a christian conservative-type right-winger?”

    Well, maybe if this is an indication.

    When toilet troller Craig was in the House, he wanted a Constitutional amendment for teaching creationism.

    “JOINT RESOLUTION

    Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to the right of the people to allow voluntary prayer and the teaching of the Judeo-Christian ethic in public schools?.
    SECTION 2. For the purpose of section 1, the term ?teaching of the Judeo-Christian ethic? shall include the Ten Commandments and the creation of the earth as accepted in Judeo-Christian tradition.”

    How much more jesus-freak can you get?

  26.  Barbiebrains says:

    Phreedm,
    Agreed…
    I would not use the term “fake” to describe a mental disorder.

    All,
    Food for thought:
    I truly believe that xianity arrests the moral, social, emotional, intellectual and sexual development of anyone who embraces it. In exchange for easing your existential angst, you give up the most important attributes of adulthood. Larry Craig is trapped somewhere between the ages of 5 and 6. This is how authoritarian systems work.

  27.  dawnisis says:

    Barbiebrains,

    Well put. I was pondering earlier why most modernly worshipped “gods” are belived to have put people on this planet for the sole purpose of an elaborate test, in which humans are given free will and desires but then punished eternally if they act on them.

    Why not a god who just wants people to have a good time and enjoy themselves. Why wouldn’t a god want to make himself obviously known to his people, seems strange for these gods to demand worship and devotion but will never even say hi.

    Just a strange ruse invented to control people.

    That’s why the religious are never free and cannot learn because they cut themselves off to so many experiences life has to offer because they want their eternal “reward”.

    I have pity for the people who are repressed sexually because they think they will burn in hell if they get it on with someone of the same sex or perform any kinda “kink”.

    I wonder, since most people worship a male god who created man in his own image does that mean god has a penis? If so, does he ever have sex? Get horney?

  28.  dawnisis says:

    I realize I am on a rant but I have more questions about god creating man in his own image…..

    -would that mean “god” has organs and blood and breathes air? what for? wouldn’t that make him mortal?

    -what about hands and feet? why would you need those unless you had to interact physically with things?

    -what about hair and skin? pubic hair and sex organs? belly button?

    -how was he born if there wasn’t anything before him to create his image?

    So, the obvious answer is that if there was a god he would in no way resemble a man, which pretty much discredits genesis.

  29.  Barbiebrains says:

    Dawnisis,

    As a Catholic schoolgirl I was taught that life on earth is all about suffering for the christ who went to sooo much trouble on the cross just for me. I never understood Gawd’s bloodlust.

    We were cut off, as you say, from many necessary experiences; experiences which lead to growth and are part of healthy psychological development. Just look at the way many xian women are asked to dress: glittery kitten sweaters, long skirts, bows in the hair…perpetual childhood. I was always puzzled at the fact that as a female, the only voices in authority that I heard were male, gawd was male, and it bothered me that my experience in a female body was constantly negated by the misogyny of the Roman Catholic Church. Male iconography is very powerful and xians have a hell of a time unraveling themselves from the delusion. BTW, it’s ok to rant…makes life more interesting :)

  30.  phreedm says:

    I’ve finally had time to listen to the tape…anyone who believes this wasn’t entrapment doesn’t know law…

    http://www.youtube.com/
    watch?v=YBChWSpVCyQ

    What a no win situation…fight this in court and face the embarrassment or pay the fine and hope it goes away…

    Sorry…I believe Craig is innocent…

    And Alex…I don’t understand how you aren’t up in arms about this…this does nothing but cast a dark cloud over the gay community…

    One final thought…this episode happened in June…why now…?

    Does anyone remember the major headline the day BEFORE the Craig story broke…?

    Politics is hardball…

  31.  IVORY GIRL says:

    Well even though I hate to agree with Phreedm,I feel he is correct on this one.
    We have a term in the UK and I’m not sure it applies legally in the USA.
    It is “agent provocateur” and I think in this situation we have a prime example of that.

  32.  reason says:

    phreedm
    what are you doing defending this pervert.entrapment my eye.i am not suprised since you are a follower of watered down christianity.the gospel of prosperity will lead you astray my friend.

  33.  bernarda says:

    phreedumb the fraud, “I’ve finally had time to listen to the tape.”

    And not the voice of god?

  34.  septos says:

    Well,yes he was entraped,but its legal in america,we do it to johns and hookers all the time. What gets me is that he was arrested for flirting. Its legal to be gay but not to have sex in public.He got busted for playing footsie with a cop.The officer should have had a wire and should have waited for an exposure or an offer for sex vocally.
    (or orally)