http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=47626Good pro-Camp-Quest letters published in Stars and Stripes, courtesy of Kathleen Johnson, our Military Director now serving in Iraq.
http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=47626Good pro-Camp-Quest letters published in Stars and Stripes, courtesy of Kathleen Johnson, our Military Director now serving in Iraq.
I read S&S every day. It was my ‘hometown newspaper’ for many years. My day just wasn’t complete until I had parused every page. I had considered mentioning those letters myself. Not sure why I didn’t, other than it would have been ***Off Topic*** Yeah, I know. Like THAT’s ever stopped me before.
My heartfelt thanks to Kathleen Johnson for bringing it to everyone’s attention.
Hurrah for the good guys/gals.
It’s hilarious to hear the religious speaking of brain washing. That is a fantastic camp. Funny a friend of my daughter’s came back today from a religious camp named after the county we live in (I’ll be investigating this). Anyway the first things she said were there was Jesus, but that there wasn’t a lot of Jesus, almost as if she doesn’t believe or perhaps she knows I don’t believe. I would love to see more of this around here. Fat chance at the edge of the bible belt, but I do see science camps advertised here. Wonder what kind of science this is? Christian Science? Will continue to do what I can to piss of the ‘Religious Wrong’
It was a great article, but I didn’t like how the opening section said gay marriage was the “lesser of two evils”. I do love how xtians always point out that our country was founded under xtian principles. esp. since god wasn’t added to the pledge until the 50s.
I wish there was one of those camps on the east coast in NE. PA or NY would be perfect area for a camp.
Hope the camps will still be around when I’ll grow up and have kids.
Didn’t know that until now, so decided to do a quick wikipedia research on it.
Another new thing: Turns out that the chant to the cloth was just a marketing scheme originally to sell flags to schools and make some money.
Learn something new every day.
Another interesting fact, approximately 17% of Americans claimed membership in a church or synogogue in 1776. Even as late as 1890, claimed membership in a church was under 50% (1)
(1) Henslin, Essentials of Sociology, 395
Tri, I think adding under god to the pledge was also about fighting the “godless” communists. If god is with us, who can be against us? Also, the pledge itself didn’t exist until 1892. From wikipedia
Rotton social1sts giving us the pledge of allegience and stupid baptist ministers not including “under god”.
What’s exactly “obedience to the state”?
There’s a limit to how far you can take that. Would they want us to question the state or just do as we’re told?
Should reason be removed from obedience – “My country, right or wrong” or should reason stay there with “My country, right or wrong; when right to be kept right, when wrong to be set right”?
Just wondering what are they expecting of the hoi polloi. Pawns?
I think I know which one the religious right wants.
I like the original pledge. I wish they would revert back to it.
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i’m with you it would be great to have the old pledge back.