The Southern Baptist Convention is planning to take over of the United States and turning it into a theocracy. Goals: get rid of all public education in America and create a nation of idiots; force everyone to be born again wingnuts or die; murder all homosexuals and atheists and, I guess, anyone else who dares to disagree with James Dobson and his cadre of lawyers. One hell of an agenda, huh? This is what I call real Christianity.
On the conference?s first day, attendees gathered in Ridgecrest?s Spilman Auditorium were treated to a lengthy rant against public schools by a Baptist preacher from Texas.The Rev. Voddie Baucham Jr., pastor at Grace Family Baptist Church in Spring, Texas and founder of Voddie Baucham ministries, is indignant that so many ?blood-washed? Christians choose to send their children to public schools. He boasted about his involvement in pushing a resolution before the Southern Bap?tists? annual convention that calls on church members to yank their kids from public schools.?If we continue to send our children to Caesar for their education, we need to stop being surprised when they come home as Romans,? Baucham said.Baucham encouraged the gath?ering to do what his family does, which is to keep children at home and immerse them in religiosity. The towering pastor ? virtually the only African-American at the conference ? noted that his son Trey travels with him full time.
and
Later in the day, DeMar introduced Gary North to the attendees, lauding him as ?a mentor.? North is a son-in-law of the late Rousas J. Rushdoony, who is widely touted as the founder of Christian Reconstructionism. North has written boatloads of books and articles about the need to establish ?Christen?dom.?His plentiful material has left a track record of extremism. North has called for the death penalty, like Rushdoony did, for youngsters who curse their parents, gays and others who violate his interpretation of biblical law. He has argued that stoning is the preferred means of capital punishment, noting that it is a communal activity and ?the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost.? Writing for Reason magazine in 1998, Walter Olson observed that Reconstruc?tionists like North ?provide the most enthusiastic constituency for stoning since the Taliban seized Kabul.?
I don’t think anymore needs to be said. Read the full article linked to in the title of this posting.Peter Nuhn
These people are insane. It’s getting harder and harder to read things like this.
Could really you trust anyone named Voddie and Rousas? What the hell? Did they pull these names out of a hat? Nutbags!
I used to be a Southern Baptist. I now look in shame on these people.
I thought southern baptists didn’t drink.
I’m not worried. No one but a crackhead would take these people seriously. Let them rage impotently.
That’s free speech at its most hilarious.
I’m stuck between whether this is just silly or just scary.
Not to worry, America will never be a theocracy.
If they want a theocracy, let them buy an island somewhere and start one. This country is taken.
I really wish they would yank their kids out of public school. The quality of public schools would go up and without and education the relative power of the religious right would be next to nil in a few short years. Cheer these brainiacs on!
And, although North would like people to forget, he was one of the preeminent Y2K doomsayers. More than anyone else, North put himself forward to any media that would listen, warning everyone about how Y2K would cause society’s collapse.
And then, shortly after society. . .umm. . .didn’t collapse, he changed his business model to email-autoresponders for a couple of years before switching back to theology after enough people forgot about his doomsaying.
Thanks, though, to the almighty archive.org, we can always hold false prophets true to their false prophesies. . .
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://garynorth.com
These people are loons, and few would take them seriously. I’m certainly not going to lose any sleep over them.
Ah, people like this will jolt more moderate people out of their complacency about Christianity and might make them wake up. They will make more atheists (and likely more liberal Christians, which isn’t that bad I guess).
Still need to watch out for crackpots to take their ideas and run with them. You know what Voltaire said about people who believe absurdities, you know…
They boycotted Disney. Let them boycott reading, writing, math and science.
how sad you don’t set a good moral example for your kid so you blame the public school when he/she screwsup.
bloodwashed christians, must be talking about all those babies christian women have aborted.
Truly pernicious religionists– fortunately for now (at least) they are impotent. Scary that it’s happening here in North Carolina on the property of and with the approval of the Southern Baptists.
Even phreedummy is ashamed I guess. Have not seen him here to respond.
I’m afraid this “Pure Christian” nonsense has him “Gushing” all over his “Laptop”.
It really pisses me off when I hear about how much better private schools are than public. I went through a public school system that routinely rated the highest, or right around the highest, in the entire state (Ohio). It was even considered to be better than most private schools.
Hmmm, I wonder if it was because we paid teachers better than most and had fantastic science, math and language programs.
I can’t even begin to say how disgusted I am with what is happening to this country, thanks to religion.
looks like they need a visit from an atheist. I will go to their church in a month or two(it’s quite a drive so I need a reason to get to Houston) and put up my review on churchrater.com. Yes, I’ll wear my friendly atheist t-shirt to the church and gladly explain why I’m there.
Boise Jim:
I do believe public schools have beat out religious private schools in testing.
Once again I’m struck by the hypocrisy of Christians who claim they have the biggest source of power in the universe on their side who nonetheless feel it necessary to try to invoke the power of mere humans in order to bring about “reforms”. If God is powerful then why can’t he do these things himself? Why does some preacher have to get up at a religious conference and try and convince everyone there that they all need to act together in order to do these things? Once again people like Mr. Voddie reveal the impotence of their god when they have to help it out. I’m not afraid of gods like that, but what I am afraid of are people like Voddie who feel they have to make up for the impotence of their gods.
North has called for the death penalty, like Rushdoony did, for youngsters who curse their parents, gays and others who violate his interpretation of biblical law. He has argued that stoning is the preferred means of capital punishment, noting that it is a communal activity and ?the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost.
Charles Manson couldn’t have said it better.
DD-
I’m not too surprised, seeing as how you get a more well-rounded education at a GOOD public school.
There is a new private school that just opened up literally a three minute walk from my house. It is science and music based, so I’m really interested to see its results in the next few years. Good news is that it was full in a very short time. Boy, if I had kids I know where they would’ve gone.
TXatheist
Please give us an update after your visit.
Wow, its hard to read when you are cringing after every sentence. Horrible stuff.
I’d say calling for the execution (by stoning, no less) of those who don’t share their faith crosses the line. They should at least be investigated for inciting violence. If Muslims said this they’d find their names on a no-fly list. It simply shouldn’t count as protected free speech (and, 1A lover that I am, I try to be as tolerant as possible).
Both Muslims and Christians alike are trying to literally follow 2000 year old writings thus living like they did at that time and both believe the other is unsaveable unless converted. Both trying to out breed and kill the other.
It is time they both all put their sacred books in the recycling bin and had a good hug and end this ages old madness.
I propose an Atheist holiday. The official day commemerating the atheist belief that God/Gods don’t exist.
And that parallel universes might exist in the 11th dimension could be a holiday. How about the Earth is 4.7 billions years old day or a more practical scrap incandescent light bulbs for L.E.D. or fluorescent bulb day.
Ironically, Baptists backed Jefferson because he was for church/state seperation, and the Baptists of the time, being in the minority, knew that any attempt by the government to foster religion would marginalize their own.
As to the free speech issue, the Supreme Court has already defined speech that could present “a clear and present danger” as not being protected. A pastor advocating violence on a street corner is very different than a pastor advocating violence to a community that he expects to be obedient and listening.